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[Trunok]

Right now the two most op mechs that i find in the game are the KDK-3 and the Hunchie-iic with 2 c-uac10's and i think that it is not the problem of the mechs it self, but of how powerfull 2 c-uac-10's or + builds are, if the c-uac 10 had more tonnage this would be great to solve the problem with hunchie at least, so he can't take too much ammo and may be forced to 2 c-uac5's or to be even more squishy than before to fit the ammo for those guns, what will place them in a more difficult mech to master.

[TercieI]

Even before UAC nerds, this would have been hilariously wrong.

[Snazzy Dragon]

Are they overperforming? Yeah. That's what high mounts + clan tech + no locked equipment will do-- any mech with those three factors will be competitive, regardless.

But are they gamebreaking? Naw.

Hunchie IICs have massive side torso hitboxes and melt under fire. They also tend to have smaller engines and aren't very agile-- faster mediums and brawler builds will eat a hunchie IIC out of position alive. A single volley from an assault can cripple a hunchie IIC outright as well.

Kodiaks are well hated by the community and will be instantly focused-- they won't last long on the dakka builds because of the facetime required to do damage. They are pretty easy to core out as well because of how big their CT is, and they don't roll damage as well as they used to.

Edited by Snazzy Dragon, 16 January 2017 - 11:20 AM.

[Lupis Volk]

Yes the mech that has received sweeping nerfs is OP potatoes don't fail me now.

[Tristan Winter]

Well, they have no quirks, so you can't really nerf them anymore. Especially since PGI has stopped using base stats (torso twist and yaw, arm movement, etc) as ways to nerf mechs.

I guess there is only one solution left, and Paul already knows what it is.

Nerf all jump jets. All of them. Especially Class I and Class V.

[Bud Crue]

Okay, that is enough.
You think the hunch IIc with that particular build is OP. Fine.
But can we please stop encouraging PGI to make broad brush nerfs to entire weapon lines? Nerf that will just as likely harm worse performing mechs than the one in question?

[TercieI]

Bud Crue, on 16 January 2017 - 11:23 AM, said:

Okay, that is enough.
You think the hunch IIc with that particular build is OP. Fine.
But can we please stop encouraging PGI to make broad brush nerfs to entire weapon lines? Nerf that will just as likely harm worse performing mechs than the one in question?

It just cracks me up since that's at most the third best HBK-IIC build and probably more like fifth. And the gauss/PPC KDK is the best by far now, probably followed by LB40.

Edited by TercieI, 16 January 2017 - 11:26 AM.

[MadHornet]

Hunch IIC's are actually not that OP.

They perform well, but they can be easily overwhelmed.

[FupDup]

TercieI, on 16 January 2017 - 11:16 AM, said:

Even before UAC nerds...

Typo?

[Bud Crue]

MadHornet, on 16 January 2017 - 11:26 AM, said:

Hunch IIC's are actually not that OP.

They perform well, but they can be easily overwhelmed.

Hunchies are a great mech but those god damn Nova's are far scarier to me. Nerf all clan energy weapons! Heat sinks too!

That was just a joke PGI, a joke.

[TercieI]

FupDup, on 16 January 2017 - 11:29 AM, said:

Typo?

Lol. Overzealous autocorrect.

[Phra]

It's always a welcome sight to face walking coffins in scouting as opposed to the lazor fists of doom.

H2C OP, bring more to scouting clams!

Edited by Phra, 16 January 2017 - 11:31 AM.

[FupDup]

I for one am okay with the notion of a medium mech not being inferior to heavies or assaults in every way, shape, and form.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

It's kinda funny to me that the "OP" Hunchie IIC is not even the best Hunchie IIC build out there.

[Pika]

Don't give PGI ideas! They'll see "nerfing the HBKIIC" and read "Buff the Vindicator!"

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Pika, on 16 January 2017 - 11:38 AM, said:

Don't give PGI ideas! They'll see "nerfing the HBKIIC" and read "Buff the Vindicator!"

That said, the Vindicator needs buffs so I'm okay if they read that.

[Lupis Volk]

Pika, on 16 January 2017 - 11:38 AM, said:

Don't give PGI ideas! They'll see "nerfing the HBKIIC" and read "Buff the Vindicator!"

I think you mean they'll remove all Clam weapons and buff the IS AC2 and Small laser/pulse. Since they are that incompetent.

[Bombast]

I know this is kind of rude, and perhaps a bit funny considering how I've bulked at such 'accusations,' but... is this an alt? I only ask because it seems strange for someone who's been playing for two days to start making claims of OPness.

Assuming this isn't an alt, and you have only been playing for two days... well, you may want to get more then 29 games in before starting these kinds of discussions.

Well done on your stats, by the way. You're doing really well for a new guy.

Edited by Bombast, 16 January 2017 - 11:43 AM.

[Lupis Volk]

Bombast, on 16 January 2017 - 11:42 AM, said:

I know this is kind of rude, and perhaps a bit funny considering how I've bulked at such 'accusations,' but... is this an alt? I only ask because it seems strange for someone who's been playing for two days to start making claims of OPness.

Assuming this isn't an alt, and you have only been playing for two days... well, you may want to get more then 29 games in before starting these kinds of discussions.

Well done on your stats, by the way. You're doing really well for a new guy.

Well then this could be a case of "nerf the guy that killed me"

Or a sock puppet going on the Nerf Clams agenda.

Edited by Lupis Volk, 16 January 2017 - 11:48 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

HBK-IIC does need fixed. Those stupid "look at me, I'm flying" arms have ruined any desire to play mine.