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[cazidin]

Greetings MechWarriors. Today I have a simple idea. Let's nerf Gauss Rifles again to try and change the meta from PPC + Gauss to something that's OK.

Gauss Rifles

Damage reduced to 13.
Velocity reduced to 1100 M/S.
Ghost Heat added to Gauss Rifles. Firing 1 or more will add +8 heat.

PPCs
Velocity reduced to 800 M/S.

IS ER PPCs
Heat increased to 16.
Velocity reduced to 1050 M/S.

C ER PPCs
Damage reduced to 8.
Splash Damage increased by 1.
Velocity reduced to 1150 M/S.

IS ER LL
Duration increased to 1.3 seconds.

C ER LL
Burn Duration increased to 1.6 seconds.

LRMs
Velocity reduced to 110 M/S
Spread increased by 20%.

AC/2
Cooldown increased to 1 second.

AC/2 Cooldown modules added.

The Dartboard of Destiny that I stole from PGI HQ a few months ago was totally worth it. I'm glad that it hasn't affected my sanity or intelligent reasoning at all.

Edited by cazidin, 03 February 2017 - 02:43 PM.

[FupDup]

You forgot to increase the AC/2 reload time to 1 second.

[cazidin]

FupDup, on 03 February 2017 - 02:35 PM, said:

You forgot to increase the AC/2 reload time to 1 second.

My bad. I fixed it!

[JohnnyWayne]

I think Gauss + PPC is ok.

[RestosIII]

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

I like the detail you put into the ERLL changes, increasing them to a number lower than their current duration.

[Mcgral18]

You were supposed to make the cERPPC have faster velocity than the isERPPC

Don't you know how Clam Tech is supposed to work?! (it did remain much cooler)

[cazidin]

RestosIII, on 03 February 2017 - 02:40 PM, said:

Sir Restos the Third. You've become desensitized to bad ideas, haven't you?

Dakota1000, on 03 February 2017 - 02:40 PM, said:

I like the detail you put into the ERLL changes, increasing them to a number lower than their current duration.

Backwards thinking. Just like PGI.

Mcgral18, on 03 February 2017 - 02:41 PM, said:

You were supposed to make the cERPPC have faster velocity than the isERPPC

Don't you know how Clam Tech is supposed to work?! (it did remain much cooler)

Fair enough! I fixed it. Clams are superior to the Inner Shell!

[RestosIII]

cazidin, on 03 February 2017 - 02:44 PM, said:

Sir Restos the Third. You've become desensitized to bad ideas, haven't you?

Well, I AM keeping up with US politics right now, and I'm staying relatively sane, so I'd say that's a yes.

[cazidin]

RestosIII, on 03 February 2017 - 02:46 PM, said:

Well, I AM keeping up with US politics right now, and I'm staying relatively sane, so I'd say that's a yes.

We've elected an orange-tan man to the office of the presidency, yet the sun comes up and the world still spins. I wonder how history will look back on him.

[RestosIII]

cazidin, on 03 February 2017 - 02:48 PM, said:

I wonder how history will look back on him.

RestosIII, on 03 February 2017 - 02:40 PM, said:

[cazidin]

You used the same gif twice! Is this a foul omen for the US' President?

[RestosIII]

cazidin, on 03 February 2017 - 02:52 PM, said:

You used the same gif twice! Is this a foul omen for the US' President?

Hey, it doesn't count if I'm quoting myself. Technically only posted the gif once.

[cazidin]

RestosIII, on 03 February 2017 - 02:52 PM, said:

Hey, it doesn't count if I'm quoting myself. Technically only posted the gif once.

Well, I guess we'll know what kind of man he is in a few weeks, but the last time someone brought up Donald Trump and his wall every single post was [REDACTED] and the thread was [REDACTED] for a few hours.

Edit by [REDACTED] at 5:54 PM EST.

[Juodas Varnas]

[Insanity09]

So, if I'm reading this correctly, basically you are in favor of reducing all long range damage, and especially killing the effectiveness of gauss rifles.
I'm just kinda wondering why the hate on long range stuff?

[MechB Kotare]

From my experience, strictly ground-based mechs (noJJsQQ) with Gauss+PPCombo, are not as tough as Hover-based mechs (PGI'sJJsQQ) with Gauss + PPC combo. If you know how to play the game (you know, stuf like using the map to your advantage, adapting your eqip according to your play style range of effectivness, minimap and overall situational awareness... etc) you would realize that Weapons are not problem. Broken jets system is. PPC+Gauss is only good for Broken JJ mechanic abuse. "Poptarting", and "bunny hopping" are result of that. Jets give you more positional advantage rather than Movement advantage.

Personally i dont agree with you, imho Gauss + PPC combo is where it should be as are gauss and PPC based weapons.

c/isERPPCs are hot enough, they are barely usable on a mech without adequate quirks.

Dont really care about LRMs and ACs

After reading through changes for c/is/ERLLs that you are proposing, im beginning to wonder if this actually is a serious thread, or a troll threat.

Correction. I think LRM velocity is fine. I'd go for reduced cooldown. Annoying LRM spamming kills LRM skill

Edited by MechB Kotare, 03 February 2017 - 03:12 PM.

[FupDup]

Insanity09, on 03 February 2017 - 03:07 PM, said:

So, if I'm reading this correctly, basically you are in favor of reducing all long range damage, and especially killing the effectiveness of gauss rifles.
I'm just kinda wondering why the hate on long range stuff?

Have you seen any of cazidin's threads over the past month or so?

Spoiler

It's a troll thread intended for humorous purposes only. L2Forums.

Edited by FupDup, 03 February 2017 - 03:14 PM.

[Metus regem]

Cazidin, I think you forgot these:

[Hanky Spam]

Another cry nerf thread...

The question that everyone should ask him/herself, who asks for nerfs for PPCs and Gauss is why both weapon-systems suddenly became so "meta". Especially on Clan side.... Of course they were never bad neither on IS nor Clan but the Clans got nerfed consistently. UAC-10 anyone? Or lasers? What the hell do you guys think should a clan mech go for if the two mentioned weapon-systems get crippled on and on again? Yes! You got it, they switch to the best working weapon-system that is left in their weaponry and these are currently PPCs and Gauss, especially for Clans... Now you want to nerf both weapon-systems to the ground again.

For all honesty, there will always be a meta weapon-system and I also don't open a cry nerf thread about IS ER LL in combination with range and burn duration quirks which a couple of IS mechs have and how they make them annyoingly strong.

Before any further weapon nerfs going to happen, I just would highly suggest to wait for the skill tree implementation and being quiet for the moment. There will be enough rebalancing and nerfing and buffing over this year if everything comes true what PGI promised in their roadmap for this year...