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[TercieI]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 February 2017 - 08:42 AM, said:

Talk to Saint Scarlett Johan, I'm sure he can convince you to pick it up.

At this point, somebody'd have to gift it to me. I've got a pile of MC, but have no plans to spend any more USD on MWO, so I'll be very parsimonious with it. I'd rather get an Ultraviolent and I don't even like DWFs...

[MeiSooHaityu]

It seems like the Pretty Baby is essentially an indirect fire support mech. I suppose it could run something similar to this...maybe...
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e24932dccb401e3

But overall yeah, it isn't a loadout that really inspires.

[Weeny Machine]

Probably Not, on 15 February 2017 - 08:54 AM, said:

At least 8 UAC/2s would be riotously fun. I can't see the fun factor really being there with the AWS-PB



What gets me is that in the BT universe, workmechs converted for shooting stuff are, as a RULE, utter garbage and only suitable for fending off poorly-equipped militias and pirates. This is in no small part due to standards of construction at every level being VERY different for workmechs as opposed to battlemechs.

Maybe it is a special woodcutter mech which they also used to fend-off the rainbow warriors on their planet?

[Widowmaker1981]

Relative to the overall strength of the chassis the worst is the La Malinche imo, since the Banshee is a fairly strong chassis (or at least it used to be) and the La Malinche takes everything that is good about it and says "nope, im going to pretend to be a bad atlas"

Worst overall though.. Anansi maybe? St Ives Blue?

[TercieI]

Widowmaker1981, on 15 February 2017 - 09:12 AM, said:

Relative to the overall strength of the chassis the worst is the La Malinche imo, since the Banshee is a fairly strong chassis (or at least it used to be) and the La Malinche takes everything that is good about it and says "nope, im going to pretend to be a bad atlas"

Worst overall though.. Anansi maybe? St Ives Blue?

I think LM is probably better than the 3S. Run it with a big XL, 3LPL & AC/10 and it's fun. The 345 cap limits the 3S from doing anything worthwhile with its hardpoints.

That's part of what's so "impressive" about the SIB. It manages to be the far-and-away worst variant of an already bottom-of-the-barrel chassis.

Edited by TercieI, 15 February 2017 - 09:21 AM.

[MeiSooHaityu]

TercieI, on 15 February 2017 - 09:17 AM, said:

That's part of what's so "impressive" about the SIB. It manages to be the far-and-away worst variant of an already bottom-of-the-barrel chassis.

Well, I'd say it is at least tied with the 1X. Afterall, 3 ballistic hardpoints in an arm on a 45 ton mech is a pretty big waste of hardpoints.

Still, I have had fun with an absurd 3 A/C2 Vindi 1X before, but I can't say the same for the SIB.

[Gas Guzzler]

TercieI, on 15 February 2017 - 09:17 AM, said:

The 345 cap limits the 3S from doing anything worthwhile with its hardpoints.

There was a time where this was kind of fun

[QuantumButler]

LOL everyone has forgotten the TDK even exists.

[Gas Guzzler]

QuantumButler, on 15 February 2017 - 09:34 AM, said:

LOL everyone has forgotten the TDK even exists.

I didn't forget it, it just isn't THAT bad.

[SmokedJag]

No mention of the gold Clan heroes that come priced as three 'Mechs (prime + two variants) - but are Omnimrchs where buying the useful pods would be ~ 1 million Cbill at most?

[Brizna]

This topic should have been closed the first time someone mentioned the Anansi. How bad must a hero mech be to be the worst variant in a chassis that has SDR 5V on it?

TDK is the best Commando hands down! It's just that Commando itself is one of the worst chassis out there.

[TercieI]

MeiSooHaityu, on 15 February 2017 - 09:25 AM, said:

Still, I have had fun with an absurd 3 A/C2 Vindi 1X before, but I can't say the same for the SIB.

Ding ding ding.

[QuantumButler]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 February 2017 - 09:36 AM, said:

I didn't forget it, it just isn't THAT bad.

I dunno man, it seems really bad.

[TercieI]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 February 2017 - 09:26 AM, said:

There was a time where this was kind of fun

Huh. Never occurred to me to put a small XL in it. I ran it with an AC/20 and 7MPL. In those days, that was a punch nothing could take twice (which was all the heat would allow). At that point, I'd have said the two were about the same, power-wise. Not now.

QuantumButler, on 15 February 2017 - 09:34 AM, said:

LOL everyone has forgotten the TDK even exists.

Well, it's probably still the best COM (the 3A is pushing it). And have you failed to notice that you're seeing a lot more COMs in the hands of good players lately? Its stock is rising with quirk changes.

Probably Not, on 15 February 2017 - 09:43 AM, said:

The Death's Smell is actually reasonably competent due to speed, stature and decent armament options for a light. No SRMs is a substantial knock against it, but 4 MLs or 4 SPLAS does fairly well.

I don't like SPLs on it, too much in-close time required with too small an alpha (16, yuck).

4MLs or 4MPLs (or you can go 2&2 if that doesn't make your head explode).

Edited by TercieI, 15 February 2017 - 09:46 AM.

[Gas Guzzler]

TercieI, on 15 February 2017 - 09:48 AM, said:

Huh. Never occurred to me to put a small XL in it. I ran it with an AC/20 and 7MPL. In those days, that was a punch nothing could take twice (which was all the heat would allow). At that point, I'd have said the two were about the same, power-wise. Not now.

The build I have in it currently is a STD 325 instead, and has 2 LPL and 5 ML, but I think the XL 340 version is better. Hardly ever lose STs in a Banshee, even with a Gauss there.

[Appogee]

Pretty Baby. A dog's breakfast of scattered hardpoints.

[TercieI]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 February 2017 - 09:50 AM, said:

The build I have in it currently is a STD 325 instead, and has 2 LPL and 5 ML, but I think the XL 340 version is better. Hardly ever lose STs in a Banshee, even with a Gauss there.

The build I currently have on it just says "INVALID."

[Tatula]

I'm surprised no one mentioned the Heavy Metal. I can't seem to find a good build on it. Not enough tubes to make a LRM boat. Energy and ballistic hard points are in the arms, which are low slung. Big and slow with jump jet nerf. Really hard to do well in this mech.

[Deathlike]

Aloha, on 15 February 2017 - 10:25 AM, said:

I'm surprised no one mentioned the Heavy Metal. I can't seem to find a good build on it. Not enough tubes to make a LRM boat. Energy and ballistic hard points are in the arms, which are low slung. Big and slow with jump jet nerf. Really hard to do well in this mech.

Heavy Metal is serviceable. It's just that 10 tons of Hoverjets™ barely manages a liftoff.

[Alistair Winter]

It's a toss-up between the light mech heroes. Huginn, Firestarter, Oxide...

You know what sucks? When you buy a hero mech to farm some c-bills, and then your hero mech only has a single viable build, with a tiny number of variations of that build. The Oxide is basically SRMs (yes, you can technically equip LRMs or Streaks, but give me a break), the Huginn is basically SRMs (no, 2xAC2 isn't good without proper ballistic quirks), the Firestarter is basically short range lasers with MGs (yeah, you can put LL's in the arms, but it's basically the worst LL carrier of all light mechs).

Pretty Baby is pretty bad though. It'll get a hardpoint inflation in 2017 after only 4 years. Yay.