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[KiXneeL]

MY STATS with my PRETTY BABY are 189 deaths to 190 kills and i deem it a successful mech in my eyes

[Dino Might]

St Ives Blue.

Whereas some of the other mechs have at least a unique hardpoint layout going for them, the SIB has nothing special that I could have any use for compared to the other bad Vindicator robots. They look pretty cool, but Vindicators are probably the worst mech in the game, and the SIB is possibly the worst of the variants.

[The Unstoppable Puggernaut]

My vote goes to the Huginn.

Hardpoint starved. Lasers are light but it can't take any. So that leaves heavier missles/ballistics. Even with the ideal srm/machine gun combo it's hard to get JJ+good speed (which is exactly what it needs).

Used to be exciting with the proper cooldown quirks but now it's very hard to work with.

[Wildstreak]

Pretty Baby, not the worst. The arm Missile location looks silly but the Mech does work. Actually saw someone do well with a PB brawler in FW.

Grid Iron, not the worst. Was loved for Gauss, less so today. Can also do the AC20 build of the 4G. Is a poor sub for the 4N.

Roc, don't have one but from the looks of it, it comes in second tieing with the Wang.

Wolverine-7D(L), not the worst and not a Hero Mech.

Fang / Flame, when last discussed one is considered worse than the other but neither is the worst.

Yen-lo-Wang, limited in doing only 2 things but more than the worst, just have to know how to use it.

Anansi, not the worst, hybrid of the 5V and 5K, MGs got buffed and it has a Missile for SRM or NAR in PUGs.

Huginn, not the worst, SRMs may not be what they were but MGs got buffed.

Dragon Slayer, not the worst. Despite the long ago nerfs, it still benefits over other Victors from the torso mounted Energy.

Winner of the Worst - St. Ives Blues
Only build I can make work is a MPL + SRM brawler, when that is your best build on a XL Medium, you know it is the worst. Has no PPC benefits, one of two Vindicators that cannot PPC the other being the 1X.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Dino Might, on 16 February 2017 - 04:14 AM, said:

LOL, I love that.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 16 February 2017 - 05:05 AM.

[LT. HARDCASE]

If comparing the Heroes strength, relative to their chassis line's cbill variants, La Malinche is easily the worst.

[Lupis Volk]

Hero? The spiders one or the Tempest.

[Snazzy Dragon]

Lupis Volk, on 16 February 2017 - 08:12 PM, said:

Hero? The spiders one or the Tempest.

Tempest would be a lot better if PGI would move the SRM or energy hardpoints to the side torsos. Putting 2 energy 1 missile in a 2 slot location is just dumb...

[Lupis Volk]

Dino Might, on 16 February 2017 - 04:14 AM, said:

St Ives Blue.

Whereas some of the other mechs have at least a unique hardpoint layout going for them, the SIB has nothing special that I could have any use for compared to the other bad Vindicator robots. They look pretty cool, but Vindicators are probably the worst mech in the game, and the SIB is possibly the worst of the variants.

I'm hurt, i try my best to make that mech work. T_T

[GrimRiver]

The Lighthouse, on 15 February 2017 - 11:45 PM, said:

Wait... what?


Just what? Did you just say LCT-1E is worse than Anansi?


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Do you happen to watch some competitive matches? You know, when a team brings Locust, it is either LCT-1E or 3M.

Yeah, 1V is awesome with that quirk and LPL, but it just does not deliver enough alpha strike like 1E and 3M can (and they have better max dps with small pulse lasers.)

Personally I like 3S. With four SRM2, it is a great potato harvester.

You missed my 2nd sentence, I was talking about it's quirks.

In term of hardpoints the 1E is the better of the locusts, in term of quirks all the the other standard locusts are better.

[Escef]

Yanlowen Cage, on 15 February 2017 - 08:14 AM, said:

Surprised no one mentioned the Yen lo wang.

I... Wait... What?!

300XL, AC20, 2*MPL, 4 tons ammo, go to town. How anyone can say a mech that does over 100 kph and carries an AC20 is bad is beyond me. It's one of the better striker/skirmishes mechs in the game.

[Davegt27]

All Cents suck all you have to do is shoot the 1 arm off

They should have set the Mech up to have either the left side or the right side to be
The weapon arm

That would allow you to last a little longer
Also 4 tons or 28 rounds of ammo does not seem to be enough

[MeiSooHaityu]

Davegt27, on 17 February 2017 - 03:53 AM, said:

All Cents suck all you have to do is shoot the 1 arm off

They should have set the Mech up to have either the left side or the right side to be
The weapon arm

That would allow you to last a little longer
Also 4 tons or 28 rounds of ammo does not seem to be enough

As a pilot you need to be aware of that and "twist" to shield your weapon when you anticipate incoming fire.

Besides this isn't a Centurion exclusive thing, that type of configuration is prevalent across a lot of IS chassis in general (especially Mediums).

Actually, a lot of mechs are set up to "sword-and-board" as it is. To maximize firepower all main weapons are moved to one location, and if that location goes, then your mech has lost serious firepower or has none.

Maybe it just feels worse on a Centurion because it is a Medium and not as durable as a Heavy or Assault, but really, this isn't anything that many mechs need to deal with.

Also, as a side note (pertaining to the YLW), you can run more than 4 tons of ammo. I can at least fit 5 tons with MLasers and an XL300. I could make MPLasers work as well with a slightly downgraded engine and 4.5 tons of ammo.

Don't let the old stigma about the Centurions get to you, they run XLs perfectly fine.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 17 February 2017 - 04:14 AM.

[oldradagast]

Mechs like Grid Iron and the Yen Lo were once reasonably dangerous at their level. Sure, now they are poor mechs, but that is because of power-creep and the establishment of the long-range, pinpoint meta.

The Vindicator hero is a trash variant of a trash mech, although I still give the most points to Pretty Baby and La Malinche because of their staggering failure to do anything useful with all that tonnage and their high price to achieve "pay to lose."