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[justcallme A S H]

MischiefSC, on 15 February 2017 - 07:05 PM, said:

I do think it's a bit ironic that only 5 people think stock loadouts have a place in FW.

It seems as if the "majority" is finding it is actually the minority - which - the true majority, already knew. But then, we aren't deluded.

[Carl Vickers]

Well both polls have revealed the info we knew was there, 'say no to stock mechs'.

Argument over, for about another 6 months till a new crop come along to have the same argument.

[LordNothing]

idgaf

i have come to realize that is bad to request features as if they are going to happen. and if they do happen its going to be a pale half arsed derped up version of the original idea and end up being a failure in the eyes of everyone who requested said features.

that said, lore good, but i wouldnt bet on it. if it were me id rather pgi spend a year spamming maps as fast as possible, or six months in a feature freeze just fixing bugs with their out dated engine.

Edited by LordNothing, 15 February 2017 - 11:31 PM.

[FallingAce]

Actually, there could be a place for stock load outs in faction warfare.

You could have a "special faction conflict" using only stock loadouts.

Of course, first, you must have "special faction conflicts"

[Vxheous]

FallingAce, on 16 February 2017 - 12:18 AM, said:

Actually, there could be a place for stock load outs in faction warfare.

You could have a "special faction conflict" using only stock loadouts.

Of course, first, you must have "special faction conflicts"

Key word is "special"

[rolly]

Thank you. This poll at least has a lot more definitive answer options.

I think lore is important because we need a reason to fight. Its ridiculously stupid if not rampantly ignorant to not use the 30 years worth of lore to make this game a richer playing experience. Instead PGI chooses to cherry pick and skim or often choose to make crap up to fluff sales.

As for FP yes I do agree. It is "FACTION" play and you can't be involved in a faction without knowing the backstory. This is especially relevant for new players unfamiliar to the game and you want all of them to be hooked. Otherwise it becomes this:

"What faction did you join?"
"I dunno whats its called. Some clan. They have a brown doggy head. Just choose "clan" because their mechs they're OP."

Hell we don't even have planetary data. The backstory on thousands of planets is already cataloged FOR THEM. Yet they don't even bother plug in the text. Copy and paste.

And yes, I think certain limits on stockmode in FP should be considered, at least optionally OR for specific campaign-like battles.

Anyhow, this is all moot. Its been more than 4 years. I don't expect any sizable changes to occur for another year or two.

[Cox Devalis]

Don't know what idgaf means so I voted for it. Sounds misterious.

[Jumping Gigolo]

Cox Devalis, on 16 February 2017 - 07:24 AM, said:

Don't know what idgaf means so I voted for it. Sounds misterious.

idgaf = i dont give a fuc...fact

[ccrider]

Stock loadouts? Bleah. I'd have lrms on my Atlai and would vomit so hard the guys in TS would be bathed in my chunks.

[justcallme A S H]

LOL 14% want stock load outs


Stand back - the majority that "want it" are going to win the poll

[rolly]

justcallme A S H, on 16 February 2017 - 02:58 PM, said:

LOL 14% want stock load outs


Stand back - the majority that "want it" are going to win the poll

14% of the tiniest portion of the amount of people who do/use to/occasionally/sometimes play MWO, much less a percentage of those who waste time on the forums. Try not to get too excited. This poll has no measure or bearing on anything, perhaps solely for your own amusement but still justifies or debunks nothing.

[MischiefSC]

Except even with a 20% margin of error (which would be so huge as to be considered worthless) it's still not really close.

While you could get support for a one-off option in Stock mechs for giggles trying to make that the FW mode would likely lose more players than selling MC only Gold ammo.

[justcallme A S H]

rolly, on 16 February 2017 - 03:47 PM, said:

14% of the tiniest portion of the amount of people who do/use to/occasionally/sometimes play MWO, much less a percentage of those who waste time on the forums. Try not to get too excited. This poll has no measure or bearing on anything, perhaps solely for your own amusement but still justifies or debunks nothing.

It proves exactly what I said in my, to the point, poll.

People don't want stock mechs in FP. There is no "majority". There is no "we all think". naterist is constantly touting of late that he speaks for some "majority" - it is just made up delusions, it does not exist. Simple as that. It's been proven exactly for what it is, rubbish.

Edited by justcallme A S H, 16 February 2017 - 03:56 PM.

[Carl Vickers]

I do notice that Naterist is very quiet atm as well.

[justcallme A S H]

You'd be quiet too if you were totally redfaced, in your own poll.

[Sjorpha]

naterist, on 15 February 2017 - 02:11 PM, said:

i realize the last question is confusing, its more about do you want unit v unit warfare(current system), or for this to be about factions and the innersphere and making you feel like your in the innersphere fighting for your house.

False dichotomy.

That question has no reasonable alternative, and you have to answer it to submit the poll, effectively barring reasonable people from doing so.

How about:

"I see no such contradition, and I think unit play is much more lore appropriate than single pugging."

Edited by Sjorpha, 16 February 2017 - 05:32 PM.

[Emeraudes]

Sjorpha, on 16 February 2017 - 05:26 PM, said:

False dichotomy.

That question has no reasonable alternative, and you have to answer it to submit the poll, effectively barring reasonable people from doing so.

How about:

"I see no such contradition, and I think unit play is much more lore appropriate than single pugging."

Unfortunately your proposed statement clashes with his agenda. The man has constantly expressed disdain for organised groups of players

[justcallme A S H]

Yet is always on the FRR hub, dropping in... Wait for it... Teams!!!!

[MischiefSC]

You know, trashing someone for a page of posts for being wrong isn't necessary.

Unless it's Russ.

Holy **** I'm a Clammer.

[Carl Vickers]

MischiefSC, on 16 February 2017 - 06:08 PM, said:

You know, trashing someone for a page of posts for being wrong isn't necessary.

Unless it's Russ.

Holy **** I'm a Clammer.

Fair point.