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[Bishop Steiner]

FupDup, on 17 February 2017 - 06:27 PM, said:

It's funny because all Vindis actually have an additional missile hardpoint already modeled and ready to go. It's just flipped off like a switch, because PGI is apparently afraid of a 45-ton mech with 7 hardpoints.

Russ literally said that they were all going to have one more, but "Internal testing felt like it was OP".



I **** you not. Direct from my conversation with the man.

[Bishop Steiner]

Probably Not, on 17 February 2017 - 06:32 PM, said:

I repeat: Mist Lynx. Who was saying "**** yeah, I want me some of that"?

Actually, it was the only one of the original 4 Light Omnis I wanted.

Of course, no wne expected PGI to put Barn Door Arm Hitboxes on the thing, what with all it's guns being IN the bloody arms.

Silly us.

Probably Not, on 17 February 2017 - 06:36 PM, said:

What's the use of a package grab deal if 25% of the package is crap? That can't be THAT much more economical than going a la carte.




Internal testing, my foot actuator.

Actually, the usual percentage of crap to useful mechs per jumbo pack has always been closer to 50% hence why I have always strongly opposed them as Bad Deals, no matter the Dollar to Mech "savings" some people feel the Jumbos give. At least with Mech of the Month, if I feel a robot will be bad... I can just skip it.

FupDup, on 17 February 2017 - 06:31 PM, said:

The Urbanmech is iconic. The Flea is not. The only thing the Flea is famous for is that Alex Iglesias made MWO concept art for it. If Alex never did that, literally no one would ever ask for the Flea.

Actually, a lot of MW4 types had been yammering for it.... and Alex just made it worse with his MW4 themed Concept Art.

Lupis Volk, on 17 February 2017 - 06:30 PM, said:

People brought the Urban mech for Blakes sake! If that can get brought into the game then why can't the Flea?

Damn straight they bought the Urbie. Because the Urbie is not only iconic, but AWESOME, something the Flea can make claims to neither of. Don't make me saddle up the Deputy Dawg and do to you what I did to Pariah.


Urbie Power, *******.

[FupDup]

Probably Not, on 17 February 2017 - 06:36 PM, said:

What's the use of a package grab deal if 25% of the package is crap? That can't be THAT much more economical than going a la carte.

Well, let's take a look.

Each weight class tier of the old model was $20 per tier for Battlemechs and $30 per tier for Omnimechs. For a la carte, the price per tier was based on how many mechs you got.

One chassis = $35 for BM / $55 for OM

Two chassis = $60 for BM / $100 for OM


The a la carte prices were horrible, to the point that I think they could be considered a war crime.

Bishop Steiner, on 17 February 2017 - 06:42 PM, said:

...and Alex just made it worse with his MW4 themed Concept Art.

Probably because the MW4 version (and Alex's version by extension) is a lot better than the original TRO version.

[Bishop Steiner]

FupDup, on 17 February 2017 - 06:44 PM, said:

Well, let's take a look.

Each weight class tier of the old model was $20 per tier for Battlemechs and $30 per tier for Omnimechs. For a la carte, the price per tier was based on how many mechs you got.

One chassis = $35 for BM / $55 for OM

Two chassis = $60 for BM / $100 for OM


The a la carte prices were horrible, to the point that I think they could be considered a war crime.


Probably because the MW4 version (and Alex's version by extension) is a lot better than the original TRO version.

Sure, if a generic wannabe Raptor is better. Personally I think the MW4 version looks like shite

[FupDup]

Bishop Steiner, on 17 February 2017 - 06:46 PM, said:

Sure, if a generic wannabe Raptor is better. Personally I think the MW4 version looks like shite

The TRO version is probably closer to the Raptor because it's even boxier.

Raptor:


Flea:


MW4 Flea:


Alex Flea:

Edited by FupDup, 17 February 2017 - 06:51 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

I would rather have the Raptor than the Flea.

[FupDup]

Yeonne Greene, on 17 February 2017 - 06:54 PM, said:

I would rather have the Raptor than the Flea.

That I agree with, because the Raptor at least is a bit different than stuff we have now.

[Y E O N N E]

Probably Not, on 17 February 2017 - 06:57 PM, said:

Most people would, but I don't see why we couldn't have both.

I would rather have the Raptor sooner rather than later.

I am ambivalent toward the Flea.

FupDup, on 17 February 2017 - 06:55 PM, said:

That I agree with, because the Raptor at least is a bit different than stuff we have now.

All the guns!

[Glaive-]

I would welcome the Flea with open arms just for the fact that it would be a second 20 ton mech. But I'd rather see the Stinger or Wasp (or both) over the Flea.

Also I'd play the Raptor to death if they add it. It's one of the few IS mechs I really want to see in this game.

[Deathlike]

FupDup, on 17 February 2017 - 06:27 PM, said:

It's funny because all Vindis actually have an additional missile hardpoint already modeled and ready to go. It's just flipped off like a switch, because PGI is apparently afraid of a 45-ton mech with 7 hardpoints.

Arguably one of the worst mech chassis in the game (at least for all mediums) doesn't need a buff?

Sounds perfectly like PGI logic.

Bishop Steiner, on 17 February 2017 - 06:36 PM, said:

Russ literally said that they were all going to have one more, but "Internal testing felt like it was OP".



I **** you not. Direct from my conversation with the man.

Well, that's the best of what Tier 5 has to offer.

[ice trey]

Bishop Steiner, on 17 February 2017 - 05:21 PM, said:

Not the question.

Also, if it doesn't look liek a REAL Flea, and not that Derptastic Raptor Wannabe from MW4? No interest.

real flea or no flea at all.

I would agree but a solid 90% of players here are the types who only ever played Mechwarrior 4 - probably for free, and then in the ten year span between it and MWO put absolutely zero effort into looking into the Battletech universe.

Even now? The occasional trips to sarna to find a mech with high hardpoints to ignore the lore behind and beg PGI to put into the game.

I call them tourists for a reason. They're not with Battletech for the long haul. When this game goes, so do they.

Edited by ice trey, 17 February 2017 - 07:53 PM.

[Requiemking]

armyunit, on 17 February 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

I would welcome the Flea with open arms just for the fact that it would be a second 20 ton mech. But I'd rather see the Stinger or Wasp (or both) over the Flea.

Also I'd play the Raptor to death if they add it. It's one of the few IS mechs I really want to see in this game.

I would rather not have the Wasp or Stinger. In terms of Hitboxes, they would be absolute garbage. I would prefer the Hornet.

[Bishop Steiner]

FupDup, on 17 February 2017 - 06:55 PM, said:

That I agree with, because the Raptor at least is a bit different than stuff we have now.

and we need a semi useful 25 tonner. Semi useful, mind you, since I doubt we'll see a GOOD one.

FupDup, on 17 February 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

The TRO version is probably closer to the Raptor because it's even boxier.

Raptor:


Flea:


MW4 Flea:


Alex Flea:

looks like boring, generic crap, to me.

ice trey, on 17 February 2017 - 07:48 PM, said:

I would agree but a solid 90% of players here are the types who only ever played Mechwarrior 4 - probably for free, and then in the ten year span between it and MWO put absolutely zero effort into looking into the Battletech universe.

Even now? The occasional trips to sarna to find a mech with high hardpoints to ignore the lore behind and beg PGI to put into the game.

I call them tourists for a reason. They're not with Battletech for the long haul. When this game goes, so do they.

no denying the truth there. Just get tired of seeing the tourists catered to at the expense of the core... who are the ones who actually pay the bloody bills.

Probably Not, on 17 February 2017 - 07:55 PM, said:

I could see their hitboxes being made passable. But the Hornet? It's a walking egg.

a slow walking egg, at that.

We already have the only slow walking egg we'll ever need.

[Bishop Steiner]

Requiemking, on 17 February 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

I would rather not have the Wasp or Stinger. In terms of Hitboxes, they would be absolute garbage. I would prefer the Hornet.

gonna run out of "meta" mechs sooner or later. Scatter some lesser chassis in here and there, the game stays interesting a little longer. Plus PGI is feeding three mouths, and it's pretty bloody vital for Battletech and MW5 to have Stingers, Wasps, etc.

Probably Not, on 17 February 2017 - 08:17 PM, said:

Wait a second. You think Alex's Flea looks like boring generic crap? It looks better than the TRO Raptor.

original TRO art below

take that over the Flea, any day, and twice on Sunday.

UNLESS, they actually made the Flea look like it's supposed to. Then? I'd take the Flea. MW4 Raptor Jr? Not interested.

[FupDup]

Bishop Steiner, on 17 February 2017 - 08:16 PM, said:

looks like boring, generic crap, to me.

Yes, the TRO Flea is indeed boring and generic crap.

[Requiemking]

Probably Not, on 17 February 2017 - 07:55 PM, said:

I could see their hitboxes being made passable. But the Hornet? It's a walking egg.

Erm, what? The Stinger and the Wasp are both walking roadsigns. Very large and easy to shoot, just like the Commando. The Hornet would be about as small as the Locust, but jump capable, albeit a little slower.

[Ultimax]

Just pilot a locust ffs and get over it.

[Lupis Volk]

Ultimax, on 17 February 2017 - 09:44 PM, said:

Just pilot a locust ffs and get over it.

I forgot that diversity is a bad thing.

[Siegegun]

"The Flea is dead to me."- Russ Bullock

[Cabusha]

It Flead. I'll show myself out.