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[Duke Nedo]

I played KDK-3 and NGRs a lot lately, now I wanted some variation with an IS mech...

Tried like 10 different ones now, they all suck. Like 60-70% of the performance perhaps. Sucks.

Bored. Depressed. Sad.

[Metus regem]

Duke Nedo, on 17 February 2017 - 11:14 AM, said:

I played KDK-3 and NGRs a lot lately, now I wanted some variation with an IS mech...

Tried like 10 different ones now, they all suck. Like 60-70% of the performance perhaps. Sucks.

Bored. Depressed. Sad.

To be fare, no IS mech is going to be able to match the Kodiak 3, it's just not possible right now. Due to the advantages of Clan Tech, high mounts and engine cap, there is nothing in the IS stables that will match it ton for ton... with Future Tech ™, we can see some interesting choices coming up, but nothing will match it ton for ton.... same for the Night Gyr...

Best you can hope for for IS mechs, is to use something that you find fun to operate, and not worry about your performance.

[Duke Nedo]

Metus regem, on 17 February 2017 - 11:19 AM, said:

To be fare, no IS mech is going to be able to match the Kodiak 3, it's just not possible right now. Due to the advantages of Clan Tech, high mounts and engine cap, there is nothing in the IS stables that will match it ton for ton... with Future Tech ™, we can see some interesting choices coming up, but nothing will match it ton for ton.... same for the Night Gyr...

Best you can hope for for IS mechs, is to use something that you find fun to operate, and not worry about your performance.

I used to enjoy playing underdogs but right now I just feel abused.

[Natred]

Warhammer is good, grasshopper is good, pheonix hawk is good, black jack is good. Bunch of good is mechs.

[Monkey Lover]

Try the grass hopper with 2 lpl and 6 medium.
For tank mech try the marauder . 3ac5 +4 medium

Assaut try battle master 3 lpl+medium for std or 5lpl to xl

[Duke Nedo]

Natred, on 17 February 2017 - 11:23 AM, said:

Warhammer is good, grasshopper is good, pheonix hawk is good, black jack is good. Bunch of good is mechs.

No, they suck compared to the best clan mechs.

[Alan Davion]

Natred, on 17 February 2017 - 11:23 AM, said:

Warhammer is good, grasshopper is good, pheonix hawk is good, black jack is good. Bunch of good is mechs.

Good is subjective.

Good against other IS mechs? Good against Clan mechs?

Most IS mechs are only good against other IS mechs. Emphasis on most. There are certainly some IS mechs that can be good against Clan mechs, but they are damned few and far between and have to be min/maxed to an absurd degree.

[Tyler Valentine]

Banshee 3M is always my go to when I want to put up big scores with minimal effort.

[Y E O N N E]

tiem 4 lolcust

[Metus regem]

Duke Nedo, on 17 February 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

I used to enjoy playing underdogs but right now I just feel abused.

It's funny, I get tired of using the best units, as I find lack of challenge when I use them... then again I play with potatoes, due to lack of time, and using fun mechs and odd builds... So when I do pull out something that is borderline top shelf, I just don't enjoy the matches.

[AphexTwin11]

Catapult, 2xAC5, 4ML

That should cheer you up

[Monkey Lover]

Duke Nedo, on 17 February 2017 - 11:25 AM, said:

No, they suck compared to the best clan mechs.

If you pilot medium and lights the oxide and the Griffin I will take on any clan medium/light with.

Heavy and assaults ya clans are winning

[SlippnGriff]

macro 6ac2 kcrab with 1100 rounds+ is real fun on maps with longer sightlines. catch someone in the open and you got high ground its ez 1k game. otherwise its just fun to hear those things rattle off as you shake and blind the other guys cockpit

[Monkey Lover]

SlippnGriff, on 17 February 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:

macro 6ac2 kcrab with 1100 rounds+ is real fun on maps with longer sightlines. catch someone in the open and you got high ground its ez 1k game. otherwise its just fun to hear those things rattle off as you shake and blind the other guys cockpit

Dire with 8* lbx 2 . I'm waiting on a hero sale haha

[Bud Crue]

Duke Nedo, on 17 February 2017 - 11:25 AM, said:

No, they suck compared to the best clan mechs.

Yes.

Now that that is out of the way, try Cataphracts and Orions again. They may not be "the best" but with their new armor quirks they are fun, if not potentially "good". There is always reliably "good" IS choices in the Locusts, Black Jacks, Griffins, Grasshopper 5P, Warhammers, Marauders. There are lots of "good" IS mechs, but I would agree none of them are "the best" in game.

[Mawai]

Monkey Lover, on 17 February 2017 - 11:29 AM, said:

If you pilot medium and lights the oxide and the Griffin I will take on any clan medium/light with.

Heavy and assaults ya clans are winning

I'd think the cheetah and stormcrow/hunchback IIC in the hands of a decent pilot would likely give those at least a run for their money (though I have only personally piloted the Stormcrow).

[ZippySpeedMonkey]

There is no such thing as a "good mech"...

Any mech can be made into a combat capable build.

What you want is a "fun"mech. In this case I suggest you play lights. There is nothing that gets the pulse racing more than running around a corner alone only to find an Assault waiting for you. Playing lights you're usuallly only a few shots away from death so it makes you hyper attentive and keeps you on your toes. Also that fact that your weapon loadout will have a minimal effect when engaged means have to learn how to fight a longer style of combat....

[MeiSooHaityu]

AphexTwin11, on 17 February 2017 - 11:28 AM, said:

Catapult, 2xAC5, 4ML

That should cheer you up

Could always rotate those 2 A/C5s for 2 A/C10s. Still can fit a XL300, 100 rounds of ammo.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c5bab6e68ec50df

Or

Could drop 4 MLasers and run a XL280 for PPCs...
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ac5352c5e073915

P.S. Didn't redistribute armor

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 17 February 2017 - 11:46 AM.

[Monkey Lover]

Mawai, on 17 February 2017 - 11:42 AM, said:

I'd think the cheetah and stormcrow/hunchback IIC in the hands of a decent pilot would likely give those at least a run for their money (though I have only personally piloted the Stormcrow).

Agreed we have some good balance on mediums and lights right now.

[zeta44]

Panther 10k, 2x SRM 4, ER PPC, whatever XL engine gets it to 97km/H

Don't have my exact build but this thing Is so much fun to pilot