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[MacClearly]

I_AM_ZUUL, on 21 February 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

I never said weekend... there you go adding your own delusional interpretation to it, is that it? You are not a pathological liar but have delusions? Cause I did it on a Tuesday and Thursday... but you are turning it into weekend cause I said two days (over a 3 day period that I did not play on the 3rd day), but I will admit that was an imprecise measurement. Hence why I am saying 20 hours cause that was the actual time I spent doing it... I had my Tier 2 showing and then said that the Tier/Stats you were crowing about as so important were fairly pointless and irrelevant, so I stopped Mastering the sub-par Mediums and Lights that I was doing to finish all the mechs and played my AWS-8R just to game the system. Then I bragged about doing it and demonstrating how pointless these things that you were holding up to be some kind of gold standard really were.

So either a lie or just your delusional mindset about it being "a weekend" and one flat out lie about my Tier not showing. For a lying piece of $hit of your caliber, I have to say it is impressive that you were able to hold yourself back to just that much lying. I know that had to have been hard for you do when there was so much more lies that you had to have desperately wanted to include.

You have changed your story so much it is hard to keep track...not really though.

Now you are saying a nice even 20 hours huh? That is new....

Oh what you can't answer and continue to ignore and avoid which is what you do when confronted about your bs, is that

YOUR STATS DON'T SUPPORT YOUR SILLY CLAIM!!! OH AND LETS NOT FORGET THAT THE BAR DOESN'T MOVE THAT FAST.

[- World Eater -]

You two again...

[LordNothing]

ive had my doubts but the way ive been rocketing upwards lately il probibly make it as well...

...and then get rapidly thrown back into t2 because potato.

[I_AM_ZUUL]

LordNothing, on 21 February 2017 - 09:11 PM, said:

ive had my doubts but the way ive been rocketing upwards lately il probibly make it as well...

...and then get rapidly thrown back into t2 because potato.

you lose PSR slower than you gain it... hence why people mockingly call it an experience bar. So has long as you stay fairly even then you will not go down, takes an almost dedicated effort to lose psr. I have not done that experiment to be able to give you some actual figures to use though... just that as soon as I got to Tier 1, I went right back to playing sub-par mediums and lights that I had not gotten around to mastering to finish them all off and never was in danger of going back to Tier 2.

[MacClearly]

I_AM_ZUUL, on 21 February 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

The fact YOU can not move the bar that fast is irrelevant to what can happen in reality... as I have already explained countless times but then you are dumber than a child. Especially since the topic is about Damage and PSR... get 500 damage and you stay neutral psr on a loss & get 800 damage and go up psr on a loss. So all you have to do is get very high damage games and the bar moves up... moves up very quickly until that last pixel of the bar (took like 6 consecutive 1000 damage games to fill that part.) So when you are rarely suffering negative psr on losses & are even gaining psr on the bar from losses... how is my W/L ratio even a point that you would bring up? Oh yeah... cause you are dumb and are not able to grasp the concept of GAMING the system, I figured out how to negate most of the negatives from my W/L ratio from the equation and thereby only have positives or worse neutrals in the equation. This is basic math... you can not truly be to $tupid to comprehend it like a normal person with a functioning brain.

The system has been explained ad nauseum in many posts Zuul.

When you are called out for bs you get hostile. Why is that? Again your assessment of my intelligence is meaningless since you continually misuse words and terms. What would really make me stupid was if I was to buy the silly things you say.

So it is not surprising that you tell this foolish story without understanding for it to ring true your season seven stats would have to be above average. You can continue to make this ridiculous claim and it has been fun watching you get worked up.

[justcallme A S H]

Deathlike, on 21 February 2017 - 04:32 PM, said:

Congrats, but you're just going to get more random potatoes in your drops.

Enjoy carrying!

That accurately describes what is expected as T1 in solo Q.

It's funny, posts like this. "I was T3 but now I'm T1" in 1000 matches, probably took longer than it should've - but it shows if you actually play half decently, you can get outta T3.

So to all the potatoes, that whine and sook about "their team" costing "them" the game. Take this as proof that YOU are the problem.

[CycKath]

JoanTheLiar, on 21 February 2017 - 04:51 PM, said:

Hate to break it to you but.. less than 1kd ratio and 1WL ratio and making my way to tier 1

Already Tier 1 with 0.61 KDR (8,626/14,237) and win/loss of 8,221/8,088

[justcallme A S H]

I_AM_ZUUL, on 21 February 2017 - 09:16 PM, said:

you lose PSR slower than you gain it...

I'd argue that. Some users around here have well over 3,0000 games to their belt and have not made it past T3.

I mean when you put LRMs on a Battlemaster, or run builds that have 25% cooling efficiency or a XL Atlas - That is kinda to be expected.

[B0oN]

justcallme A S H, on 21 February 2017 - 09:24 PM, said:

I'd argue that. Some users around here have well over 3,0000 games to their belt and have not made it past T3.

I mean when you put LRMs on a Battlemaster, or run builds that have 25% cooling efficiency or a XL Atlas - That is kinda to be expected.

Translation :

Patata will stay patata .

On a more serious note : F&%$ that PSR thingy . Absolutely irrelevant .

[LordNothing]

I_AM_ZUUL, on 21 February 2017 - 09:16 PM, said:

you lose PSR slower than you gain it... hence why people mockingly call it an experience bar. So has long as you stay fairly even then you will not go down, takes an almost dedicated effort to lose psr. I have not done that experiment to be able to give you some actual figures to use though... just that as soon as I got to Tier 1, I went right back to playing sub-par mediums and lights that I had not gotten around to mastering to finish them all off and never was in danger of going back to Tier 2.

i had a lot of bounce back when i got into t2. i got dumped back into t3 several times. after months of that it just started moving forward and it hasnt gone back since. it was a real bad time, remember back when pgi was doing back to back extended events for months? so much potato play was there, and i was trying to level some garbage mechs and between the two it really kept me from scoring. its around the half way point now.

i totally expect to see the same thing in t1. especially now that ive mastered everything i can totally focus on the mechs i like vs the mechs that im leveling. at least for the next month or whenever skill trees actual come out, and then its back to the meat grinder. right now im almost exclusively running heros trying to put away cbills for that impending doom (also linebackers).

Edited by LordNothing, 21 February 2017 - 11:52 PM.

[The Unstoppable Puggernaut]

I'd do almost anything to get away from prntNspz. Goddamn he needs his own Tier !!

[Weeny Machine]

Zergling, on 21 February 2017 - 09:22 AM, said:

I was mid-Tier 3 when I started playing again in September last year, and now, 1122 battles later, I've finally reached Tier 1!!!

...and you will find out that nothing has changed.

Edit: Except for a very few games

Edited by Bush Hopper, 22 February 2017 - 12:53 AM.

[Appogee]

Congratulations!

You are now awarded infinite opportunities to try to carry potatoes to victory.

Enjoy! :-D

Edited by Appogee, 22 February 2017 - 02:23 AM.

[I_AM_ZUUL]

justcallme A S H, on 21 February 2017 - 09:24 PM, said:

I'd argue that. Some users around here have well over 3,0000 games to their belt and have not made it past T3.

I mean when you put LRMs on a Battlemaster, or run builds that have 25% cooling efficiency or a XL Atlas - That is kinda to be expected.

You should be putting LRMs on a Battlemaster.... on a 1S which is the second best LRM Assualt boat and 3rd best LRM boat in the game. But sure... people who are terrible are generally terrible everywhere including the Mechlab. But being a constant weight pulling your team down into defeats is why they are still Tier 3... being neutral or slightly bad should still raise the PSR.

[Dee Eight]

I_AM_ZUUL, on 22 February 2017 - 07:02 AM, said:

You should be putting LRMs on a Battlemaster.... on a 1S which is the second best LRM Assualt boat and 3rd best LRM boat in the game.

I need a laugh. What is the 1st best LRM assault boat, and the 1st best LRM boat in the game ?

[I_AM_ZUUL]

MacClearly, on 21 February 2017 - 09:19 PM, said:

The system has been explained ad nauseum in many posts Zuul.

When you are called out for bs you get hostile. Why is that? Again your assessment of my intelligence is meaningless since you continually misuse words and terms. What would really make me stupid was if I was to buy the silly things you say.

So it is not surprising that you tell this foolish story without understanding for it to ring true your season seven stats would have to be above average. You can continue to make this ridiculous claim and it has been fun watching you get worked up.

You saw it happen and I bragged about doing it in real time as we messaging each other... so what I can not figure out is why you keep lying about it, when you know you are lying. You making an assertion about it not being possible does not A. constitute as an explanation or B. constitute a refutation against what I did actually explain (500 Damage is Neutral on loss/800 Damage is a positive on loss) on how to raise it so quickly by essentially removing the W/L ratio from the equation.

Best LRM boat is of course the AWS-8R... it has one of the highest DPS in the game & a High mounted Tag. It was even better when you could chain fire the LRM15s every .32 seconds but after the nerfs it is up to merely .54 (after quirks, skills, modules), meaning there is an extra .12 blank space between every 4th and 5th shot of just regular chain fire. the BTR-1S has as good of quirks as the MAL-1R that you see everyone trying to use, but also has a high mounted TAG spot and much better quirks for its secondary weapons (and you can choose between 4 15s or 4 10s while the 1P is restricted to using 15s to get the quirk bonus that even makes it viable in the first place.) Since LRMs are a mid range support weapon (300m-600m) then having high mounted TAG to use to while getting your own locks is a major bonus, which is why the Tempest along with its inherent positive of having ECM fits in there as the 2nd best overall.

Edited by I_AM_ZUUL, 22 February 2017 - 01:54 PM.

[MacClearly]

I_AM_ZUUL, on 22 February 2017 - 07:39 AM, said:

You saw it happen and I bragged about doing it in real time as we messaging each other... so what I can not figure out is why you keep lying about it, when you know you are lying. You making an assertion about it not being possible does not A. constitute as an explanation or B. constitute a refutation against what I did actually explain (500 Damage is Neutral on loss/800 Damage is a positive on loss) on how to raise it so quickly by essentially removing the W/L ratio from the equation.

Best LRM boat is of course the AWS-8R... it has one of the highest DPS in the game & a High mounted Tag. It was even better when you could chain fire the LRM15s every .32 seconds but after the nerfs it is up to merely .54 (after quirks, skills, modules), meaning there is an extra .12 blank space between every 4th and 5th shot of just regular chain fire. the BTR-1S has as good of quirks as the MAL-1P that you see everyone trying to use, but also has a high mounted TAG spot and much better quirks for its secondary weapons (and you can choose between 4 15s or 4 10s while the 1P is restricted to using 15s to get the quirk bonus that even makes it viable in the first place.) Since LRMs are a mid range support weapon (300m-600m) then having high mounted TAG to use to while getting your own locks is a major bonus, which is why the Tempest along with its inherent positive of having ECM fits in there as the 2nd best overall.

No I didn't. After a week of me shooting down your childhood stories as proof of how great you were, you displayed that you had finally reached tier 1.

You can try and hold on to this idea but you, as usual are neglecting what I would have actually needed to see as evidence of this miraculous leap. I will break it down really simple for you to follow along but I accept that you will disregard it and revert back into your cycle of trying to tell me what I saw.

1. I did not see your tier bar at half way through tier 2. How could I have been able to see this considering you didn't take a screen shot with that days newpaper (this is a common technique to prove when a picture was taken, I am including this so you don't get confused) and then say you were going to show me and do it in whatever timeframe.

2. You previously had not shown your tier then when you reached tier one you displayed that you had done so. You can not and will not be able to get past the unassailable fact that your claim was not supported by any evidence what so ever. It is just you saying that you did it.

3. So finally we look at independant sources, in this case being the leaderboard for season 7. We see that you have average stats. This doesn't support your claim of skyrocketing through the tier bar (which moves one or two pixels at most in an incredible game) in two day or now your revised 20 hour claim.

So you can dance around all that you like and make whatever claim you like. Due to there not being any evidence to support your claim, I don't believe you. You can argue all you like, it will never change that there is nothing that backs your story, and hard numbers that call it out as being complete bs. Please try and comprehend that you changing your tier or claiming this or that without anything to actually back you up is not me seeing anything other than you changing your settings to display your tier. So while you might think in your head that seeing you display your tier means something, it doesn't. This is because I did not see any evidence at all to back your claim. Being repetitive on purpose hoping to drive that point home to you about what I 'saw' because you seem to be confused....

Just to be crystal, I did not see your bar move or evidence of where you were at. I only saw you display your tier after you made it into 1.

Edited by MacClearly, 22 February 2017 - 09:29 AM.

[Zergling]

Whelp, played 2 battles today, and there was about 6 players per game that were likely Tier 4 (due to hundreds of battles with average match score in the 150-175 range).
There was also one player with many hundreds of battles around 120 average match score, so that guy was very likely a Tier 5.

So yeah, PSR matchmaker doesn't seem to be doing its job of segregating players by their PSR Tier.

[METAL SEPARATOR]

Do you get any reward for reaching 1 tier?

[I_AM_ZUUL]

MacClearly, on 22 February 2017 - 09:27 AM, said:

No I didn't. After a week of me shooting down your childhood stories as proof of how great you were, you displayed that you had finally reached tier 1.

You can try and hold on to this idea but you, as usual are neglecting what I would have actually needed to see as evidence of this miraculous leap. I will break it down really simple for you to follow along but I accept that you will disregard it and revert back into your cycle of trying to tell me what I saw.

1. I did not see your tier bar at half way through tier 2. How could I have been able to see this considering you didn't take a screen shot with that days newpaper (this is a common technique to prove when a picture was taken, I am including this so you don't get confused) and then say you were going to show me and do it in whatever timeframe.

2. You previously had not shown your tier then when you reached tier one you displayed that you had done so. You can not and will not be able to get past the unassailable fact that your claim was not supported by any evidence what so ever. It is just you saying that you did it.

3. So finally we look at independant sources, in this case being the leaderboard for season 7. We see that you have average stats. This doesn't support your claim of skyrocketing through the tier bar (which moves one or two pixels at most in an incredible game) in two day or now your revised 20 hour claim.

So you can dance around all that you like and make whatever claim you like. Due to there not being any evidence to support your claim, I don't believe you. You can argue all you like, it will never change that there is nothing that backs your story, and hard numbers that call it out as being complete bs. Please try and comprehend that you changing your tier or claiming this or that without anything to actually back you up is not me seeing anything other than you changing your settings to display your tier. So while you might think in your head that seeing you display your tier means something, it doesn't. This is because I did not see any evidence at all to back your claim. Being repetitive on purpose hoping to drive that point home to you about what I 'saw' because you seem to be confused....

Just to be crystal, I did not see your bar move or evidence of where you were at. I only saw you display your tier after you made it into 1.

Then you are either an idiot or just unobservant.... either of those options are valid to my perception of you, in reality both is probably the accurate answer. I was displaying my Tier when it was 2, you can lie about it like you lie about so many other things but it does not change facts any more than all the other things you lie about.

Where are the daily average Damage stats? Oh yeah... they do not exist because as I have pointed out countless other times when you try to bring up "stats", the stats are incomplete to the point of being dog$hit in anything but the most general and unspecific way until they are almost entirely useless. So when the entire point I am making (which is easily repeatable by anyone, even a lying piece of $hit like you) is that around 500 Damage games equals a neutral psr on a loss & around 800 damage games equals a positive psr on a loss... how can you be literally ret@rded enough to bring up W/L ratio as the crux of your rebuttal??? The entire way that this trick works to game the system is to ELIMINATE the negative psr associated with a Loss!!!!!!!! So I could have exactly 0 wins and still raise my psr doing this, albeit not nearly as quickly... so whatever point you think you are making is just dumb, but then you yourself are dumb so it is unsurprising that is what you would think up.

MWn00b, on 22 February 2017 - 11:16 AM, said:

Do you get any reward for reaching 1 tier?

I get to argue on the internet with a lying piece of $hit about how I did it... but I do not really think that is an actual reward. so no... no you do not, unless you want to count having even worse players put on your team to "balance" out you being Tier 1 as a reward. Which again from personal experience is not a reward either

Edited by I_AM_ZUUL, 22 February 2017 - 01:53 PM.