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[I_AM_ZUUL]

meteorol, on 23 February 2017 - 12:28 PM, said:

You guys are talking about different seasons. He is referring to your season 7 stats, which are just 299 avg. matchscore on a 0.97 w/l with a 1.52 k/d for assaults, while you are quoting season 6 stats. Just saying.

Gotta decide on the actual timeframe you are arguing about.

He like to lie... a lot!!!! This happened in December not January... those were pretty much just my AWS-8R which is why there is like half the games in Assualts that season. I moved back to all the mechs that I had Mastered and then never played again to start accuring the obnoxious amount of XP needed to master them under the new pts dumpster fire under the "placeholder" xp requirements that ended up being lower than then the ones they used before I even was aware of just what a dumpster fire it was going to be. Just that PGI was doing something new and automatically assumed it would be as terribly implemented as everything else they have over the years... and was right

[SoloidSnake]

Congrats on getting into Tier 1, now prepare to have even less fun than the game offers.

[LowSubmarino]

Hahaha. Great achievment.
Tier 1 sucks so hard.
I mean. Tier 1 means less than nothing.

The worst noobs ever are in Tier 1.

But still. Congrats i Guess ? ^^

[MacClearly]

I_AM_ZUUL, on 23 February 2017 - 12:14 PM, said:

It is not possible for you to as $tupid as you are pretending to be to keep repeating this fallacious argument. Since there is NO DAILY DAMAGE STATS then trying to use an entire month where I spent the other 29 days playing unmastered subpar mediums and light is not a reflection upon my skill overall. Especially when you look at just my Assault stats are damn good... Rank 111th by average Match score (seemed like at least half the people above me had 20 games or less), with a W/L of 1.25 & KDR of 2.58 when both of those were only side benefits that I was not even trying to farm. I was ONLY focused on farming damage to the point of pulling off hurt mechs to target fresh ones with better angles to continue my Damage output... so if they were more comprehensive Stats then that could be cited as a source, but as such you have to be full blown ret@rded to think that is something that has any meaning on the very specific example I am providing. PGI has all this data but they refuse to share it with the community... but that is a completely separate issue.

You told me on Jan 5 of this year that you spent the last two days farming it. That would have been the start of season 7. Check the date in question in the messages between you and I.

So again do the math from your stats in assaults during season 7. Considering approximately 1/3rd would have taken place over the period you claim, the math does not add up. Your performance in unmastered mediums and lights is irrelevant because your own claim is that you did it in one particular assault.

As well you keep focusing on my part of the argument which is only part of the evidence. You are right there are no daily stats. The stats that are available however provide a couple of things you can't ignore. Historical performance, and averages. These point to your story being highly suspect.

The other part is where your tier bar was during the time in question is unknown. What you are claiming is completely unsubstantiated. So there is no way to tell if it was half or if it was an inch away from tier 1.

Edited by MacClearly, 23 February 2017 - 03:34 PM.

[I_AM_ZUUL]

MacClearly, on 23 February 2017 - 03:33 PM, said:

You told me on Jan 5 of this year that you spent the last two days farming it. That would have been the start of season 7. Check the date in question in the messages between you and I.

So again do the math from your stats in assaults during season 7. Considering approximately 1/3rd would have taken place over the period you claim, the math does not add up. Your performance in unmastered mediums and lights is irrelevant because your own claim is that you did it in one particular assault.

As well you keep focusing on my part of the argument which is only part of the evidence. You are right there are no daily stats. The stats that are available however provide a couple of things you can't ignore. Historical performance, and averages. These point to your story being highly suspect.

The other part is where your tier bar was during the time in question is unknown. What you are claiming is completely unsubstantiated. So there is no way to tell if it was half or if it was an inch away from tier 1.

except I was also bragging about being it the low 100 place on the assaults when you were bashing my overall stats... so it was definitely season 6 not 7 since I was no longer carrying teams with my AWS-8R exclusively and my stats fell cause I started doing Maulers & Highlander IICs to master as well as a Stalker, Battlemaster, an Awesome that I had never gotten around to mastering cause they were all sub-par variants

[Dee Eight]

Bud Crue, on 22 February 2017 - 04:28 PM, said:

I hereby dub this "Mac and Zuul's Thread of Bickering". None shall be concerned with or be allowed to comment on the OP or original thread title. It is all Mac and all Zuul and their feud from here on out.

Can we get a mod to make this official? Its actually been a fun read.

They do it in EVERY thread now it seems.

[MacClearly]

I_AM_ZUUL, on 23 February 2017 - 04:10 PM, said:

except I was also bragging about being it the low 100 place on the assaults when you were bashing my overall stats... so it was definitely season 6 not 7 since I was no longer carrying teams with my AWS-8R exclusively and my stats fell cause I started doing Maulers & Highlander IICs to master as well as a Stalker, Battlemaster, an Awesome that I had never gotten around to mastering cause they were all sub-par variants

Nope check the message you are wrong as usual but nice try.

Again no evidence where your bar was either...

[MOBAjobg]

https://mwomercs.com...s/page__st__280

It's Season 6 and I've dug up the post in question.

So, after looking into I_AM_ZUUL assault class stats, imho it's possible to obtain half bar as claimed however I can't be sure that it was done within 20 hours.

I'd played 100 matches in 20 hours before and I think it takes about 400 matches to fill up the entire T2 bar.

Edited by MOBAjobg, 23 February 2017 - 05:58 PM.

[MOBAjobg]

Gratz!, Zergling.

C'ya soon and more often, hopefully.

[MacClearly]

MOBAjobg, on 23 February 2017 - 05:45 PM, said:

https://mwomercs.com...s/page__st__280

It's Season 6 and I've dug up the post in question.

So, after looking into I_AM_ZUUL assault class stats, imho it's possible to obtain half bar as claimed however I can't be sure that it was done within 20 hours.

I'd played 100 matches in 20 hours before and I think it takes about 400 matches to fill up the entire T2 bar.

The claim was that he did it on the 3rd and fourth of January this year. I could forward you the message if you were interested. That makes the season in question 7. It would also require an incredible 100 out of the 300 matches he had in assaults then completely tanking in the last 200 matches. If you look at past performance, it doesn't appear that he is a player capable of pulling the 500-600 average match score to pull it off and if you believe he could, what possibly would explain how badly he tanked for those last matches.

[MOBAjobg]

MacClearly, on 23 February 2017 - 06:27 PM, said:

The claim was that he did it on the 3rd and fourth of January this year. I could forward you the message if you were interested. That makes the season in question 7. It would also require an incredible 100 out of the 300 matches he had in assaults then completely tanking in the last 200 matches. If you look at past performance, it doesn't appear that he is a player capable of pulling the 500-600 average match score to pull it off and if you believe he could, what possibly would explain how badly he tanked for those last matches.

iirc, Season 7 had started a bit later than usual most probably 4 or 5th day of January.

Anyway, I'm not saying that the half bar of T2 was achievable in 20 hours.

Edited by MOBAjobg, 23 February 2017 - 06:48 PM.

[MacClearly]

MOBAjobg, on 23 February 2017 - 06:40 PM, said:

iirc, Season 7 had started a bit later than usual most probably 4 or 5th day of January.

Anyway, I'm not saying that the half bar of T2 was achievable in 20 hours.

I don't remember there being a delay but it is possible that I am wrong.

I can appreciate your point and was only trying to provide more context. My point was also that looking at the bigger picture and what information is available it casts a reasonable doubt that he did it in 20 hours. Was not trying to put words in your mouth so to speak.

[Revis Volek]

MacClearly, on 23 February 2017 - 06:21 AM, said:

I am sure it wouldn't for you. You are an above average player.

You are also being a bit vague. 3-10, and 2-3 weeks. My argument about zuul's claim is his claim is specific and unlikely.

Only vague because i dont have precise numbers and dont wanna sound like im full of ****...

[MacClearly]

Revis Volek, on 23 February 2017 - 07:05 PM, said:

Only vague because i dont have precise numbers and dont wanna sound like im full of ****...

Difference is that I would likely believe you. Again you are above average.

[Ace Selin]

I_AM_ZUUL, on 21 February 2017 - 09:16 PM, said:

you lose PSR slower than you gain it... hence why people mockingly call it an experience bar. So has long as you stay fairly even then you will not go down, takes an almost dedicated effort to lose psr. I have not done that experiment to be able to give you some actual figures to use though... just that as soon as I got to Tier 1, I went right back to playing sub-par mediums and lights that I had not gotten around to mastering to finish them all off and never was in danger of going back to Tier 2.

I let my 8 year old nephew play a lot of games on my account and was never in danger of going down from Tier 1, i dont believe it even retracted at all. Once its Tier 1 full, its full for ever?!

[FuhNuGi]

OMG,

Mac and Zuul, you 2 should go ahead and get married for all the time you spend fact checking each other's e-peen claims.

You guys have hijacked so many threads, with very little respect to the OP.

It also seems like you guys are stalking each other on the forums to wage your personal fight and conduct eye **** upon an uncaring population.

Here is a clue... 99% of the crew could care less about how fast you can or can't farm your broken PSR stat, and the 1% that does care probably has too much time on their hands... the more you guys keep this up, the less your peers will care about your opinion, it will just be the thought of "oh, that guy"... although I am sure the exacting details are very important to you both, can you take it to a private thread or something?

It got past ridiculous pages ago on a different topic, and guess what? Same argument that nobody cares about.

Now children, quit your drama, congratulate the fella that made T1 and go reload your forum blaster cannons for another thread hijack.

Jeez... pirates...

Now, for those that care, making T1 is a goal that means something to certain players, maybe it is a milestone on their way someplace competitive, maybe it is the only goal they thought of... but all the same, for those that made it, even with a broken and upwardly biased PSR system, it is a goal that requires time and effort and the reward is at least a sense of accomplishment (although even something like a cockpit item or a form email from Russ would be nice).

So, Gratz, you made it.

[mouser42]

congrats!!! just made tier2 tonight as well c-ya on the battle field pew pew

[MacClearly]

FuhNuGi, on 23 February 2017 - 08:19 PM, said:

OMG,

Mac and Zuul, you 2 should go ahead and get married for all the time you spend fact checking each other's e-peen claims.

You guys have hijacked so many threads, with very little respect to the OP.

It also seems like you guys are stalking each other on the forums to wage your personal fight and conduct eye **** upon an uncaring population.

Here is a clue... 99% of the crew could care less about how fast you can or can't farm your broken PSR stat, and the 1% that does care probably has too much time on their hands... the more you guys keep this up, the less your peers will care about your opinion, it will just be the thought of "oh, that guy"... although I am sure the exacting details are very important to you both, can you take it to a private thread or something?

It got past ridiculous pages ago on a different topic, and guess what? Same argument that nobody cares about.

Now children, quit your drama, congratulate the fella that made T1 and go reload your forum blaster cannons for another thread hijack.

Jeez... pirates...

Now, for those that care, making T1 is a goal that means something to certain players, maybe it is a milestone on their way someplace competitive, maybe it is the only goal they thought of... but all the same, for those that made it, even with a broken and upwardly biased PSR system, it is a goal that requires time and effort and the reward is at least a sense of accomplishment (although even something like a cockpit item or a form email from Russ would be nice).

So, Gratz, you made it.

Funny because I have not made any claims. I think you should go back through our continual bickering over several threads more carefully to confirm this.

Admittedly this has gone on too long now for a few days, but I have seen it done by several other forum regulars. Sometimes it is hard to break a cycle and I am kind of stubborn.

[I_AM_ZUUL]

MacClearly, on 23 February 2017 - 09:00 PM, said:

Funny because I have not made any claims. I think you should go back through our continual bickering over several threads more carefully to confirm this.

Admittedly this has gone on too long now for a few days, but I have seen it done by several other forum regulars. Sometimes it is hard to break a cycle and I am kind of stubborn.

Nor have you offered any actual refutations other then incorrect assertions or imprecise stats as the basis of your biased opinions. Which is pretty weird coming from a guy who I have yet to see playing anything but lrm boats in qp

[KHETTI]

Congrats on whoever it is that's finally reached T1, a year and a half after it was a thing .