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[Jay Leon Hart]

Yeonne Greene, on 04 November 2017 - 08:39 AM, said:

Onslaught without the Light ACs is a tragedy. It would just be a Black Widow clone. With Light ACs, though, it becomes super interesting. UAC/5 + LAC/2? Yes please.

How is 7B 1E 2M a Black Widow Clone when the Black Widow is 4B 4E 1M?

I agree I really want LACs & PACs, but that's another (popular) discussion.

[Y E O N N E]

Jay Leon Hart, on 04 November 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

How is 7B 1E 2M a Black Widow Clone when the Black Widow is 4B 4E 1M?

I agree I really want LACs & PACs, but that's another (popular) discussion.

Slots and tons. What were you planning on filling those ballistic hardpoints with, Machine Guns? All you've really got room for is 2x UAC/5 + 2x AC/5 or smaller, which is exactly what you would run on a Black Widow. I suppose you could do 5x UAC/2, but that's going to be super hot and XL-squishy.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Yeonne Greene, on 04 November 2017 - 08:55 AM, said:

Slots and tons. What were you planning on filling those ballistic hardpoints with, Machine Guns?

Actually, yes

6 LMG, UAC 10/20, (H)PPC

[Y E O N N E]

Jay Leon Hart, on 04 November 2017 - 08:58 AM, said:

Actually, yes

6 LMG, UAC 10/20, (H)PPC

Weird.

[TheArisen]

I wonder if the Thanatos badically killed the hope of getting one of the high quality 75t heavies in game. We talked about either the Lancelot or Anvil for 60t but what about 65 & 70 tonners? There's 4 of each as I recall.

[Jay Leon Hart]

TheArisen, on 05 November 2017 - 03:25 PM, said:

I wonder if the Thanatos badically killed the hope of getting one of the high quality 75t heavies in game. We talked about either the Lancelot or Anvil for 60t but what about 65 & 70 tonners? There's 4 of each as I recall.

65 tonners?

Jinggau or Verfolger please.

70 tonners?

Avatar or BattleAxe please (though none is fine by me).

[TheArisen]

Jay Leon Hart, on 05 November 2017 - 03:59 PM, said:

65 tonners?

Jinggau or Verfolger please.

70 tonners?

Avatar or BattleAxe please (though none is fine by me).

The Jinggau could be interesting except it has only arm mounted weapons and they're far apart. The Verf has a weapon buldge but maybe not a terrible thing in MWO if smaller. Honestly 65t is kinda running short on options from a lore standpoint and honestly the Roughneck is quite good. Maybe the Exterminator as a calvary mech? It needs more hardpoints though.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Exterminator

Well the Avatar would be mediocre at best and the BAxe is just a Warhammer prototype and it can be built on most any Whammy.
How about the Thunder? 350xl stock so capable of a 400, AC20 arm could also have a gauss, etc.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Thunder

Honestly though, can we just have the Dragoon as the first extinct mech? Comstar saved a few or the blueprints or something... it's just so good.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Dragoon

[Jay Leon Hart]

TheArisen, on 05 November 2017 - 05:06 PM, said:

Maybe the Exterminator as a calvary mech? It needs more hardpoints though.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Exterminator

How about the Thunder? 350xl stock so capable of a 400, AC20 arm could also have a gauss, etc.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Thunder

Honestly though, can we just have the Dragoon as the first extinct mech? Comstar saved a few or the blueprints or something... it's just so good.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Dragoon

I'm not a fan of fast IS Heavy 'mechs, generally because I end up lowering the engine to cram in more weapon or DHS, so the higher cap is wasted on me.

I always laugh when I see the Thunder, it just reminds me of an original Cylon, or Darth Vader

Ah yes, the Dragoon! I could use a 70 ton Rifleman / Jagermech. Then we could complete the set with the 75 ton Toyama. Gun arm 'mechs forever, Good shout!

[HenryFA]

Where is my hellhound 😴

Where is my hellhound 😴

Where is my hellhound ...

[Tordin]

There it is!

Edited by Tordin, 06 November 2017 - 02:28 PM.

[Will9761]

Well, I decided to compile a list of the top 3 most wanted mechs from each IS and Clan category. I removed IS Omnimechs since PGI has no intentions to put them in game, and is a pity too.

IS Lights
1st - Hollander (464 votes)
2nd - Wasp (262 votes)
3rd - Anubis (175 votes)

IS Mediums
1st - Chimera (283 votes)
2nd - Dervish (274 votes)
3rd - Sha Yu (220 votes)

IS Heavies
1st - Crusader (404 votes, assuming this whole HG bullcrap gets swept away)
2nd - Argus (243 votes)
3rd - Dragon Fire (141 votes)

IS Assaults
1st - Fafnir (654 votes)
2nd - Marauder II (319 votes)
3rd - Longbow (234 votes)

Clan Lights
1st - Fire Moth/Dasher (593 votes)
2nd - Locust IIC (416 votes)
3rd - Urbanmech IIC (194 votes)

Clan Mediums
1st - Shadow Hawk IIC (334 votes)
2nd - Griffin IIC (257 votes)
3rd - Conjurer/Hellhound (172 votes)

Clan Heavies
1st - Rifleman IIC (590 votes)
2nd - Grizzly (289 votes)
3rd - Crossbow (150 votes)

CIan Assaults
1st - Blood Asp (665 votes)
2nd - Stone Rhino (458 votes)
3rd - Warhammer IIC (442 votes)

[Rabtar]

Hollander gives us an odd option. Could be the first mech with both light and medium variants. Size it up with just some extra geometry instead of an entirely new mech. Specially as I can't seem to find any real artwork for the Hollander II.

[November Juliet]

Is Lights
Mongoose
Valkyrie
IS mediums
Dervish
Starslayer
IS Heavies
Crusader-Absolute travesty its not in this game.
Anvil
IS Assaults
Devastator
Hauptmann

Clan Lights
Fire Moth
Fire Falcon
Clan Mediums
Battle Cobra
Phantom
Clan Heavies
Crossbow
Grizzly
Clan Assaults
Blood asp
Turkina

[TheArisen]

Will9761, on 08 November 2017 - 09:41 AM, said:

Well, I decided to compile a list of the top 3 most wanted mechs from each IS and Clan category. I removed IS Omnimechs since PGI has no intentions to put them in game, and is a pity too.

IS Lights
1st - Hollander (464 votes)
2nd - Wasp (262 votes)
3rd - Anubis (175 votes)

IS Mediums
1st - Chimera (283 votes)
2nd - Dervish (274 votes)
3rd - Sha Yu (220 votes)

IS Heavies
1st - Crusader (404 votes, assuming this whole HG bullcrap gets swept away)
2nd - Argus (243 votes)
3rd - Dragon Fire (141 votes)

IS Assaults
1st - Fafnir (654 votes)
2nd - Marauder II (319 votes)
3rd - Longbow (234 votes)

Clan Lights
1st - Fire Moth/Dasher (593 votes)
2nd - Locust IIC (416 votes)
3rd - Urbanmech IIC (194 votes)

Clan Mediums
1st - Shadow Hawk IIC (334 votes)
2nd - Griffin IIC (257 votes)
3rd - Conjurer/Hellhound (172 votes)

Clan Heavies
1st - Rifleman IIC (590 votes)
2nd - Grizzly (289 votes)
3rd - Crossbow (150 votes)

CIan Assaults
1st - Blood Asp (665 votes)
2nd - Stone Rhino (458 votes)
3rd - Warhammer IIC (442 votes)

Can the Hollander fans just put a gauss on a Raven so we don't waste a mech release? Same deal with the Chimera, can we get something that's not terrible or redundant? (The Dervish is redundant cuz Griffin)

Seeing the Dragonfire high in 3rd is nice and the Argus could be decent for a 60t option. The Crusader seems like a humanoid Catapult.

Fafnir has me fapnir, not for hvy gauss but everything else. The Marauder II could be hilarious, especially if we get the 3E & 11 missile variant. Also jj 100t for the IS for what it's worth. The Longbow has more variety than most realize, including mostly energy & even ballistic variants plus JJ & Ecm

[Jay Leon Hart]

TheArisen, on 08 November 2017 - 10:26 AM, said:

Can the Hollander fans just put a gauss on a Raven so we don't waste a mech release?

Nah, I need my big gun Light

Or the Stiletto.

Or the Raptor.

[TheArisen]

Jay Leon Hart, on 08 November 2017 - 10:37 AM, said:

Nah, I need my big gun Light

Or the Stiletto.

Or the Raptor.

Haha gauss is a big gun.

The Stiletto would be kinda weird if it got in before the Fire falcon it's based on.

Raptor would be cool

[xVLFBERHxT]

Request: Ad the Burrock for me please. 75t fast heavy. Clan Burrock\ Star Ader.

Edited by xVLFBERHxT, 08 November 2017 - 11:22 AM.

[Stridercal]

Jay Leon Hart, on 05 November 2017 - 03:59 PM, said:

65 tonners?

Jinggau or Verfolger please.

I'd so very much love the Verfolger, but i'd also settle for a Thunderbolt variant based on the NAIS model.

[Valdarion Silarius]

xVLFBERHxT, on 08 November 2017 - 11:06 AM, said:

Request: Ad the Burrock for me please. 75t fast heavy. Clan Burrock\ Star Ader.

I'd wish the clans would get some kind of cool addition of a RAC type ultra autocannon cosmetic mock up. If we ever did (and I really doubt we will), I would still want LBX slugs or some kind of semi-automatic autocannon equivalent since I really have no desire to mount any clan ballistics on my mechs. It's part of the reason why I focus my IS mechs solely around ballistic builds more than anything else.

November Juliet, on 08 November 2017 - 10:17 AM, said:

Is Lights
Mongoose
Valkyrie
IS mediums
Dervish
Starslayer
IS Heavies
Crusader-Absolute travesty its not in this game.
Anvil
IS Assaults
Devastator
Hauptmann

Clan Lights
Fire Moth
Fire Falcon
Clan Mediums
Battle Cobra
Phantom
Clan Heavies
Crossbow
Grizzly
Clan Assaults
Blood asp
Turkina

I'm in favor for more unseens like the Crusader but I will pass on the Grizzly. It will end up being one of those battlemechs that if PGI follows the lore behind it, it's going to be a jack-of-all-trades but with the quirks of poor engineering. Would be funny if they followed the lore with the armor getting in the joints if the mech was damaged. It will also be another mech with a ton of PGI variants, and would have to be marketed wisely (while breaking the lore) in order to make sales.

The only exception I will make to break my own rule is the Toyama. Unfortunately I think the Thanatos crushed any chance of that mech getting in, but perhaps it still might have a chance in the future since it has some good selling points to it.

[TheArisen]

Arnold The Governator, on 08 November 2017 - 12:44 PM, said:

I'd wish the clans would get some kind of cool addition of a RAC type ultra autocannon cosmetic mock up. If we ever did (and I really doubt we will), I would still want LBX slugs or some kind of semi-automatic autocannon equivalent since I really have no desire to mount any clan ballistics on my mechs. It's part of the reason why I focus my IS mechs solely around ballistic builds more than anything else.


I'm in favor for more unseens like the Crusader but I will pass on the Grizzly. It will end up being one of those battlemechs that if PGI follows the lore behind it, it's going to be a jack-of-all-trades but with the quirks of poor engineering. Would be funny if they followed the lore with the armor getting in the joints if the mech was damaged. It will also be another mech with a ton of PGI variants, and would have to be marketed wisely (while breaking the lore) in order to make sales.

The only exception I will make to break my own rule is the Toyama. Unfortunately I think the Thanatos crushed any chance of that mech getting in, but perhaps it still might have a chance in the future since it has some good selling points to it.

Yeah I wish the Toyama would get more votes, it has so much going for it.

For anyone that doesn't know the Toyama check this link out
http://www.sarna.net...ma_(BattleMech)

Edited by TheArisen, 08 November 2017 - 12:50 PM.