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[Gas Guzzler]

Still waiting for opinions on the Stinger-Wasp-Nova Cat-Blood Asp Mech Pack...

[Scout Derek]

Gas Guzzler, on 17 March 2017 - 10:28 AM, said:

Still waiting for opinions on the Stinger-Wasp-Nova Cat-Blood Asp Mech Pack...

just be sure to have the collector bonus give a decal that gives C-Bill boost to the mech equipped with it

[Archangel.84]

Stinger/Wasp-Crusader-Fire Moth-Nova Cat Pack? Sure, I'm down for that!

Dervish-Black Lanner-Fafnir-Blood Asp Pack? Sounds good!

[Bishop Steiner]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 17 March 2017 - 10:24 AM, said:

To be fair, it is much better in TT because of how low the BV is for it. Plus you can still punch and kick if you lose that Gauss.

Relying on punch and kick from slow, underarmored Light Mech is not a formula I ever chose to pursue for success in TT. People like it because "BFG" and it looks patently, blatantly Manga inspired "oversized" gun ridiculous.

Of course, in MWO we would get...either a teeny tiny gun..or worse.. a long cylindrical torso piece that they lego mech a tiny gun barrel to the end of.

Gas Guzzler, on 17 March 2017 - 10:28 AM, said:

Still waiting for opinions on the Stinger-Wasp-Nova Cat-Blood Asp Mech Pack...

I'd take it! Wouldn't care about the Blood Asp, and tbh, Wasp ain't my jam, but Stinger and Novacat? Sold!

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Bishop Steiner, on 17 March 2017 - 10:31 AM, said:

Relying on punch and kick from slow, underarmored Light Mech is not a formula I ever chose to pursue for success in TT.

I mean once you lose the Gauss you don't have a lot of options, that said, the Pein Hammer is a wonderful little brawling light for the BV so being slow isn't necessarily a huge issue so much as positioning (granted at the point the Hollander is stripped, it is better to just use it as a distraction to take the heat away from something else).

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 17 March 2017 - 10:33 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 17 March 2017 - 10:32 AM, said:

I mean once you lose the Gauss you don't have a lot of options, that said, the Pein Hammer is a wonderful little brawling light for the BV so being slow isn't necessarily a huge issue so much as positioning (granted at the point the Hollander is stripped, it is better to just use it as a distraction to take the heat away from something else).

be better with TSM and a Mace, shaped like an actual ball pein hammer.

[Metus regem]

Archangel.84, on 17 March 2017 - 10:30 AM, said:

Stinger/Wasp-Crusader-Fire Moth-Nova Cat Pack? Sure, I'm down for that!

Dervish-Black Lanner-Fafnir-Blood Asp Pack? Sounds good!

ugh.. Black Lanner... 11.5t of pod space on a 55t mech when you get it fully armoured.... that just isn't going to end well... ooo it hase ECM, ECM can't help you that much anymore... it lacks the tonnage to effectively use cSPL or cERSL with DHS... it lacks tonnage to take advantage of the massive number of hard points it can have... and frankly it looks like a duck wearing a diaper!

[Gas Guzzler]

Archangel.84, on 17 March 2017 - 10:30 AM, said:

Stinger/Wasp-Crusader-Fire Moth-Nova Cat Pack? Sure, I'm down for that!

Dervish-Black Lanner-Fafnir-Blood Asp Pack? Sounds good!

Fire Moth isn't going to happen, still the speed issue according to Russ.

Wouldn't be surprised if we ended up with Osiris, Crusader/Thanatos, Black Lanner, Nova Cat at this point, judging by the poll and the assuming they decide to release mechs in weight classes that weren't represented in the Civil War pack for respective factions.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 17 March 2017 - 10:41 AM.

[Metus regem]

Gas Guzzler, on 17 March 2017 - 10:39 AM, said:

Wouldn't be surprised if we ended up with Osiris, Crusader/Thanatos, Black Lanner, Nova Cat at this point, judging by the poll and the assuming they decide to release mechs in weight classes that weren't represented in the Civil War pack for respective factions.

Out of those that you listed, I'd prefer the Crusader over the Thanatos, but that's due to my love of Macross...

[Gas Guzzler]

Metus regem, on 17 March 2017 - 10:45 AM, said:

Out of those that you listed, I'd prefer the Crusader over the Thanatos, but that's due to my love of Macross...

And I'd prefer the Thanatos because it is more unique and would support a variety of viable loadouts. AND it was in MW4.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 17 March 2017 - 10:46 AM.

[Scout Derek]

Gas Guzzler, on 17 March 2017 - 10:46 AM, said:

And I'd prefer the Thanatos because it is more unique and would support a variety of viable loadouts. AND it was in MW4.

Most Memorable mission of them is the escort Steiner Cargo Mission and the Stealth Mission against steiner in MW4 Mercs. A force to be reckoned with.

[Metus regem]

Gas Guzzler, on 17 March 2017 - 10:46 AM, said:

And I'd prefer the Thanatos because it is more unique and would support a variety of viable loadouts. AND it was in MW4.

And I wouldn't begrudge it for showing up, it actually has a chance at being decent to good, unlike the Uziel which will be bad to mediocre...

[Y E O N N E]

Gas Guzzler, on 17 March 2017 - 10:28 AM, said:

Still waiting for opinions on the Stinger-Wasp-Nova Cat-Blood Asp Mech Pack...

Sounds extremely broken and lopsided. I would have to be paid to acquire it.

[Bishop Steiner]

Gas Guzzler, on 17 March 2017 - 10:39 AM, said:

Fire Moth isn't going to happen, still the speed issue according to Russ.

Wouldn't be surprised if we ended up with Osiris, Crusader/Thanatos, Black Lanner, Nova Cat at this point, judging by the poll and the assuming they decide to release mechs in weight classes that weren't represented in the Civil War pack for respective factions.

I actually enjoy the Thanatos and Crusader. Because of MW4 fanboidom, I expect the Thanatos to be a shoe in, like the mkII and Uzi. The Crusader though is a classic, very versatile heavy, that has never been given a chance. Given our recent thumbing of our noses at HG, I would love to see it have it's shot.

Osiris is hands down my Light mech of choice, of remaining options. Always loved how it looked and played.
http://bishopsteiner...Raven-660235735

Yeonne Greene, on 17 March 2017 - 10:48 AM, said:

Sounds extremely broken and lopsided. I would have to be paid to acquire it.

Last I checked, the IS and Clan portions are separate, and TBH, so are the individual mechs.

It's not possible just based on what's available for "equivalent" on both sides, every pack.

For me, I'd rather see a Stinger/Vulcan pack, but that's just being greedy!

[Gas Guzzler]

Scout Derek, on 17 March 2017 - 10:48 AM, said:

Most Memorable mission of them is the escort Steiner Cargo Mission and the Stealth Mission against steiner in MW4 Mercs. A force to be reckoned with.

The group I played with in the MW4 days really liked them, but that was pre-Black Knight.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 17 March 2017 - 10:59 AM.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Gas Guzzler, on 17 March 2017 - 06:39 AM, said:

So Today in the IS Light the Osiris is still leading, but the Hollander is getting close, with its singe big ballistic loadout that is bound to be super useful in MWO

Don't care. GIEF LIGHT GAUSS LIGHT!

Gas Guzzler, on 17 March 2017 - 06:39 AM, said:

In the IS medium class we have riveting race between the Men Shen and the Dervish, with the Starslayer not TOO far behind.

Come on, Starslayer!

Gas Guzzler, on 17 March 2017 - 06:39 AM, said:

In the IS assault class, the Fafnir is maintaining its commanding lead. I think that will end up being pretty solid, I just hope the breasts aren't quite as large as they were in MW4.

Fafnir 4 lyfe... nir!

Gas Guzzler, on 17 March 2017 - 06:39 AM, said:

In the Clan heavy class, the Nova Cat has a HUGE lead, no big surprise. This really should be in the next pack...

Nova Cat best Cat! (Sorry, Shadow Cat )

Gas Guzzler, on 17 March 2017 - 06:39 AM, said:

In the Clan assault class, the Blood Asp has a commanding lead over the Warhammer IIC. Not really a big surprise to me.

Good, I've been Asp-ing for it for ages!

Gas Guzzler, on 17 March 2017 - 06:39 AM, said:

Some predictions: Based purely on the votes, if another pack were released with 2 IS mechs and 2 Clan mechs, it would have:

Osiris
Fafnir
Nova Cat
Blood Asp

If PGI decided they wanted to release mechs in classes that were NOT in the Civil War pack, it would look like:

Osiris
Crusader (although the poll is close enough, they may decide to do the Thanatos instead, because it is more "modern")
Nova Cat
Black Lanner

NOVA CAT CONFIRMED!!!

[Bishop Steiner]

Scout Derek, on 17 March 2017 - 10:48 AM, said:

Most Memorable mission of them is the escort Steiner Cargo Mission and the Stealth Mission against steiner in MW4 Mercs. A force to be reckoned with.

TBH, always used a Raven for the Stealth Mission. In and out.

The Escort...usually Mediums, on the first one, but the second one, that one the Thanatos was a good choice. So was the Victor though, which I preferred.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Bishop Steiner, on 17 March 2017 - 10:20 AM, said:

Popularity of the Hollander on the poll shows people want nostalgia, not "best".

Cuz let's face...Hollander is just...bad. But iconicallly so!

You take that back! LIGHT GAUSS LIGHT REVOLUTION!!!

Gas Guzzler, on 17 March 2017 - 10:28 AM, said:

Still waiting for opinions on the Stinger-Wasp-Nova Cat-Blood Asp Mech Pack...

No-No-Yes-Yes

[Tordin]

Im gonna vote. I'll find time for it, also Sarna on firefox loads ancts sluggish, no idea why.

Anyway. I want the Viking assault mech for IS. ALL the missiles! With some variation too.

PGI need to make up some variants propably..


Description

The Viking began production shortly after the Beowulf in a joint effort by the Free Rasalhague Republic and ComStar. The 'Mech is intended to take over in the role that has been traditionally filled by the Bombardier. The Viking is built on a GC Type 1 Endo Steel chassis and powered by a GM 270 fusion engine, giving the 'Mech a top speed of 54.0 km/h. The Viking is protected by fifteen and a half tons of GC Slab armor with CASE, providing the 'Mech with good armor protection as well as protection against ammunition explosions. To dissipate heat from the Viking's impressive arsenal, the 'Mech has ten double heat sinks. The Viking has proven itself a powerful assault and fire support 'Mech capable of putting out almost twice as much firepower as the 'Mech it replaces.^[5]
Weapons and Equipment

The Viking has a singular mission of long-range missile fire support. To do this, the Viking carries two Shigunga LRM-15 launchers and two Shigunga LRM-20 launchers, all of which are linked to an Artemis IV fire control system for increased missile accuracy. For close combat, the Viking has two torso mounted ChisComp 32 Small Lasers and four Sperry Browning Machine Guns for anti-infantry combat.^[5]
Variants

• VKG-2G Intended to act as a front line assault 'Mech, the 2G variant of the Viking has all of the weapons stripped out and two more double heat sinks have been added in addition to two more tons of armor. The 2G carries as its primary weapons an LB-X Autocannon/10 which is capable of firing both standard and cluster rounds as well as a Gauss Rifle, giving the 2G a powerful long range punch. For medium to close range combat, the 2G has a Large Pulse Laser and three Medium Pulse Lasers. To protect itself from advanced enemy electronic warfare systems, the 2G has a Guardian ECM Suite. BV (1.0) = 1,878^[2][6], BV (2.0) = 2,152^[7]

• VKG-3A This is a artillery version of the Viking produced during the Jihad. This variant has an Advance Tech Arrow IV Launcher mounted on its right arm actuator. The Viking's LRM launchers are replaced by a pair of 7-Tubed Multi-Missile Launchers guided by Artemis IV Firecontrol for each launcher. The launchers are supplied by 3 tons of ammunition while the larger Arrow launcher has 2 tons. CASE is used to protect both ammunition bins from destroying the 'Mech. As far as secondary weaponry goes, the 'Mech has a pair of Medium Pulse Lasers and single Small Pulse Laser in the torsos. The Fusion Engine is replaced with a Compact Fusion Engine to help protect the 'Mech from stray shots to its center torso. The 'Mech is equipped with 11 Double Heatsinks. BV (2.0) = 1,876^[8]

• VKG-3W The 3W is a Word of Blake variant that was reconfigured at the refitted factories on Hall. It strips the weapons and replaces them with four Krupp MML-9s that allow the Viking access to both SRM and LRM munitions and with seven tons of ammunition, it is almost guaranteed to have both. The close-support weapons were replaced with a pair of Skobel "Little 20" Light AC/2s and a pair of Hovertec Streak SRM-2s that seem ancient by comparison. This variant is protected by seventeen tons of armor, but the Blakist refit does not add any heat sinks. Of course, all the weapons are aided by the inclusion of a C3i Computer. BV (2.0) = 1,778^[9]

[Gas Guzzler]

Added the Viking.

Plot twist, I would prefer Stinger/Wasp-Thanatos-... over Osiris-Crusader... if that helps.

At least the other two would be a 20 tonners with JJs which is somewhat new, and we have a decent selection of 30 tonners already.