409 replies to this topic

[Tamerlin]

SRM4 Spread increased to 4 (from 3.5).

Is it documented anywhere what "spread = 4" really means? 4 meters of spread over every x meters of travel?

[Dran Dragore]

i can not say enough how disappointed i am. Sure: new Assassin, looks good. Some minor hurts for SRM4, TC, whatever. Two additional Decals, another swap of the Trial/Champion Mechs, and ... nothing more. Thats it. Only ... stuff. No Maps, no Decals (like the Homeclans like Diamond Shark, Hells Horses,... why do we got the Star Adders ?!?), no "big Stuff" the game needs so urgent and was told coming earlier. Just Stuff for real money :-/ .

But the worst: no Skill System. It looked so promising but now its on the same graveyard like the other "big" changes (for example: energy Draw). Formal "in a future patch". Lets see what happens...

Please dear PGI: bring some needed and wanted content to the game. New Maps (!), new Skill System, whatever. Not only one after another new Mechpack_Clan/IS_Heroes_another_shiny_Mech for lots of real money! Sure, you also have to live and pay bills, and i am one of those who spend more than to every other game i ever played, but i miss really the progress of the game.
Well, for your defense: the new weapons looks nice, but i miss the HACs for the Clans . IS gets 12 Systems, Clans just a few. Anyway, this surely makes my day when delivered. I hope it doesnt shifted in a "near future" for the same reasons like the Skill System...

[Falconer Cyrus]

Another stupid "rebalance" (in particular lol over target computers) instead of bug fixes.

[Calebos]

Cosmetics, cosmetics, cosmetics ... any sign of optimisation? Technical improvements? Simply: you suck PGI.

I hope that cretin who chose Cry Engine got fired

Edited by Calebos, 17 March 2017 - 11:41 PM.

[Falconer Cyrus]

Oh, and pls increase spread of srm4 little more - I want to kill 2 enemies - one in front of me and one behind - with a single shot.

[Croaker Munin]

Dran Dragore, on 17 March 2017 - 10:25 PM, said:

i can not say enough how disappointed i am. Sure: new Assassin, looks good. Some minor hurts for SRM4, TC, whatever. Two additional Decals, another swap of the Trial/Champion Mechs, and ... nothing more. Thats it. Only ... stuff. No Maps, no Decals (like the Homeclans like Diamond Shark, Hells Horses,... why do we got the Star Adders ?!?), no "big Stuff" the game needs so urgent and was told coming earlier. Just Stuff for real money :-/ .

But the worst: no Skill System. It looked so promising but now its on the same graveyard like the other "big" changes (for example: energy Draw). Formal "in a future patch". Lets see what happens...

Please dear PGI: bring some needed and wanted content to the game. New Maps (!), new Skill System, whatever. Not only one after another new Mechpack_Clan/IS_Heroes_another_shiny_Mech for lots of real money! Sure, you also have to live and pay bills, and i am one of those who spend more than to every other game i ever played, but i miss really the progress of the game.
Well, for your defense: the new weapons looks nice, but i miss the HACs for the Clans . IS gets 12 Systems, Clans just a few. Anyway, this surely makes my day when delivered. I hope it doesnt shifted in a "near future" for the same reasons like the Skill System...

WORD

[Kmieciu]

Tamerlin, on 17 March 2017 - 10:19 PM, said:

SRM4 Spread increased to 4 (from 3.5).

Is it documented anywhere what "spread = 4" really means? 4 meters of spread over every x meters of travel?

It means SRM4 accuracy is going to be 14% worse. But let's be honest - it was the most efficient launcher bar none.

[Arkhangel]

@Kmi: if nothing else, it actually gives ya a reason to use Artemis on 4s now.

[Koniving]

Uncle Totty, on 17 March 2017 - 06:08 PM, said:

Why is it that the techs that once worked on the Orion now get to keep working on Timber Wolves?

That tech got captured and was forced to work as a bondsman.
I wish I could say that the sabotage is intentional, but unfortunately that technician really is that incompetent.

Tamerlin, on 17 March 2017 - 10:19 PM, said:

SRM4 Spread increased to 4 (from 3.5).

Is it documented anywhere what "spread = 4" really means? 4 meters of spread over every x meters of travel?

It isn't defined.
For all we know it could mean that it was changed on a slider from the 3rd and a half letter of the alphabet to the fourth letter.

[Joe Decker]

Dran Dragore, on 17 March 2017 - 10:25 PM, said:

i can not say enough how disappointed i am. Sure: new Assassin, looks good. Some minor hurts for SRM4, TC, whatever. Two additional Decals, another swap of the Trial/Champion Mechs, and ... nothing more. Thats it. Only ... stuff. No Maps, no Decals (like the Homeclans like Diamond Shark, Hells Horses,... why do we got the Star Adders ?!?), no "big Stuff" the game needs so urgent and was told coming earlier. Just Stuff for real money :-/ .

But the worst: no Skill System. It looked so promising but now its on the same graveyard like the other "big" changes (for example: energy Draw). Formal "in a future patch". Lets see what happens...

Please dear PGI: bring some needed and wanted content to the game. New Maps (!), new Skill System, whatever. Not only one after another new Mechpack_Clan/IS_Heroes_another_shiny_Mech for lots of real money! Sure, you also have to live and pay bills, and i am one of those who spend more than to every other game i ever played, but i miss really the progress of the game.
Well, for your defense: the new weapons looks nice, but i miss the HACs for the Clans . IS gets 12 Systems, Clans just a few. Anyway, this surely makes my day when delivered. I hope it doesnt shifted in a "near future" for the same reasons like the Skill System...

It is a good Thing they delayed the Skill Tree Mess, but I will agree with you that I had also hoped for a new Map or some new Content, this Year has not seen much new Stuff yet.

Edited by Joe Decker, 18 March 2017 - 03:01 AM.

[Reno Blade]

Nice little patch.

While some ppl are hurt that they need to wait longer for "new map/modes" or bugfixes, it seems some didn't read all the notes about the upcoming Incursion game mode on PTS (soon) or the bugfixes (this patch, like every patch has them).

Looking forward to all the changes in this patch and even more for the next PTS sessions and next patches.

[PFC Carsten]

InnerSphereNews, on 17 March 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

Supernova has reluctantly given up its dreams of breakdancing stardom.

That made me smile.

[Kmieciu]

InnerSphereNews, on 17 March 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

• Bitchin' Betty: Added alert for weapon jam.
• Cool Shot: Now has associated SFX when used.
• Machine Gun: Improved the impact SFX.
• Supernova (all variants): Supernova has reluctantly given up its dreams of breakdancing stardom.

Those are actually small but great changes! I The Supernova variant made me LOL.
I guess there are still people at PGI who care about improving the game and not only squeezing the very last $$$ out of Whales.

Edited by Kmieciu, 18 March 2017 - 04:25 AM.

[Racerxintegra2k]

... LRM5's Op ????? I don't really care about LRM mechs that much, but ... really ?

[Odanan]

Joe Decker, on 18 March 2017 - 03:00 AM, said:

It is a good Thing they delayed the Skill Tree Mess, but I will agree with you that I had also hoped for a new Map or some new Content, this Year has not seen much new Stuff yet.

They are probably working hard on the incoming new tech, but yes, I want too a new map (and some revamped game modes, like Assault and Domination).

[Uncle Totty]

Odanan, on 18 March 2017 - 04:50 AM, said:

They are probably working hard on the incoming new tech, but yes, I want too a new map (and some revamped game modes, like Assault and Domination).

Seriously, the revamped Assault mode was supposed to come out HOW long ago?

[Gazbeard]

Nerfing the LRM5 ???

Noobs like me will certainly need you to open PSR Tiers 6 & 7 now

[Tiamat of the Sea]

You all are cruising for some serious language consistency-comprehension issues here.

Look at this material you posted regarding the critical hit system:

Spoiler

InnerSphereNews, on 17 March 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

The recent Skill Tree Public Test Session included a number of additional balance and gameplay-related changes. While many of these changes relied on the context of the new Skill Tree, others did not. We feel the changes to Component Health, Targeting Computers, and certain Weaponry changes are positive improvements to overall balance regardless of the Skill Tree. Those changes have been included with this patch, and are outlined below. Note that if you previously read about these changes in the initial Skill Tree PTS announcement, the Design Notes are much the same as they were in that announcement.

Component Health and Critical Hits

Inner Sphere and Clan baseline balance continues to be a high priority for us. As indicated back in January, we have identified a series of core imbalances that we will be attempting to evaluate further and address in the future, while still attempting to maintain distinct differences between the two technology bases.



The first of the changes you'll see as a result of this review is to address the Critical Hit system and the faction-level imbalances present within it. The previous Critical Hit system was globally too lax in its distribution of health and damage, leading to Critical Hits rarely occurring unless it was directly the result of Critical Hits from high-damage weaponry - primarily PPC and Gauss. This resulted in minimal concern being paid to Critical Hits, even when receiving damage from weaponry with boosted Critical Chances or damage bonuses.



We've gone through all of the equipment currently in the game, and have taken a pass at giving each Component its own unique Critical Health value.



On the Inner Sphere side, smaller/lighter Components will see their health reduced. Mid-sized components will stay where they are, while large components will see a health increase.
The overall aim here is to increase the threat of Component destruction from a Critical hit when Structure is exposed. We have also made a few weapon and equipment changes to further support this system.



When it came to the Critical Hit system for Clans, we've identified that this was a fundamental point of imbalance. Due to the fact that Inner Sphere Components are larger and heavier, Inner Sphere Components were much more prone to being critted out directly because they had less overall Component Health to 'pad' the crit damage in comparison to their Clan counterparts.
This resulted in Inner Sphere 'Mechs suffering much more from Critical hits than the Clans, who can pack their 'Mechs with more Components of equal health.



To address this, Clan Components will see an overall reduction in Health values - excluding cases where those Components are identical to their Inner Sphere counterparts, such as Jump Jets and Actuators.
While these changes may initially seem extreme when viewed in isolation, they are designed to account for the fact that Clans can typically mount more physical Equipment than their Inner Sphere counterparts. When viewed as total Component Health values against roughly equivalent Inner Sphere designs, the end result sees a much closer balance picture for total Component Health between the two tech bases.



Essentially, the bulkier, heavier Inner Sphere Equipment will typically now be more durable, while the smaller, lighter Clan equipment will allow for more equipment to be fielded overall at the cost individual equipment health.



We have provided two examples below conveying these dynamics. The first, comparing the Inner Sphere Jenner Oxide against the Clan Jenner IIC. The second, comparing the Inner Sphere Black Knight BL-7-KNT-L against the Clan Timber Wolf TBR-A.
These examples are intended to showcase that while Clan tech health can be lower than Inner Sphere health, the ability for Clan 'Mechs to equip a greater amount of equipment equalizes this deficiency and puts the two sides in a more comfortable state of balance.

Jenner vs. Jenner IIC (Previous)

Jenner Oxide JR7-O (Build)

Jenner IIC JR7-IIC (Build)

Components & Component HP

Components & Component HP

RT
1
LT
1
RT
5
LT
1
RT HP
15
LT HP
15
RT HP
51.6
LT HP
15
RA
4
LA
4
RA
5
LA
5
RA HP
40
LA HP
40
RA HP
50
LA HP
50
RL
5
LL
5
RL
4
LL
4
RL HP
50
LL HP
50
RL HP
40
LL HP
40
CT
4
HD
4
CT
4
HD
4
CT HP
45
HD HP
40
CT HP
45
HD HP
40
Total #
28
Total HP
265
Total #
32
Total HP
301.6

Jenner vs. Jenner IIC (New)

Jenner Oxide JR7-O (Same Build)

Jenner IIC JR7-IIC (Same Build)

Components & Component HP

Components & Component HP

RT
1
LT
1
RT
5
LT
1
RT HP
15
LT HP
15
RT HP
47.5
LT HP
15
RA
4
LA
4
RA
5
LA
5
RA HP
32.5
LA HP
32.5
RA HP
32
LA HP
32
RL
5
LL
5
RL
4
LL
4
RL HP
35
LL HP
40
RL HP
30
LL HP
30
CT
4
HD
4
CT
4
HD
4
CT HP
40
HD HP
22
CT HP
32
HD HP
22
Total #
28
Total HP
202
Total #
32
Total HP
210.5

Black Knight vs. Timber Wolf (Previous)

Black Knight BL-7-KNT-L (Build)

Timber Wolf TBR-A (Build)

Components & Component HP

Components & Component HP

RT
5
LT
4
RT
6
LT
5
RT HP
55
LT HP
45
RT HP
58.2
LT HP
51.6
RA
6
LA
7
RA
7
LA
8
RA HP
60
LA HP
70
RA HP
56.4
LA HP
73.2
RL
4
LL
4
RL
4
LL
4
RL HP
40
LL HP
40
RL HP
40
LL HP
40
CT
2
HD
4
CT
3
HD
3
CT HP
25
HD HP
40
CT HP
35
HD HP
30
Total #
36
Total HP
345
Total #
40
Total HP
354.4

Black Knight vs. Timber Wolf (New)

Black Knight BL-7-KNT-L (Same Build)

Timber Wolf TBR-A (Same Build)

Components & Component HP

Components & Component HP

RT
5
LT
4
RT
6
LT
5
RT HP
45
LT HP
42.5
RT HP
45
LT HP
50
RA
6
LA
7
RA
7
LA
8
RA HP
45
LA HP
55
RA HP
42.5
LA HP
47.5
RL
4
LL
4
RL
4
LL
4
RL HP
30
LL HP
30
RL HP
30
LL HP
30
CT
2
HD
4
CT
3
HD
3
CT HP
25
HD HP
19.5
CT HP
60
HD HP
12
Total #
36
Total HP
262
Total #
40
Total HP
257



These changes are only the first level of the core changes we are currently evaluating for future patches. As mentioned in the design notes for the Clan XL Engine changes from January, more details will be conveyed as we approach implementation. We want to assure everyone that core-level tech balance continues to be a priority for us as we get closer to the introduction of new tech into the game.

Clan Targeting Computers

Targeting Computer Mk 1:
• 1 Crit Chance bonus reduced to 1.14% (from 5%).
• 2 Crit Chance bonus reduced to 0.64% (from 2.75%).
• 3 Crit Chance bonus reduced to 0.14% (from 0.55%).



Targeting Computer Mk 2:
• 1 Crit Chance bonus reduced to 2.29% (from 5.50%).
• 2 Crit Chance bonus reduced to 1.29% (from 3%).
• 3 Crit Chance bonus reduced to 0.29% (from 0.63%).



Targeting Computer Mk 3:
• 1 Crit Chance bonus reduced to 3.43% (from 6%).
• 2 Crit Chance bonus reduced to 1.93% (from 3.25%).
• 3 Crit Chance bonus reduced to .43% (from 0.7%).



Targeting Computer Mk 4:
• 1 Crit Chance bonus reduced to 4.57% (from 6.5%).
• 2 Crit Chance bonus reduced to 2.57% (from 3.50%).
• 3 Crit Chance bonus reduced to 0.57% (from 0.78%).



Targeting Computer Mk 5:
• 1 Crit Chance bonus reduced to 5.71% (from 7%).
• 2 Crit Chance bonus reduced to 3.21% (from 4%).
• 3 Crit Chance bonus reduced to 0.71% (from 0.85%).



Targeting Computer Mk 6:
• 1 Crit Chance bonus reduced to 6.86% (from 7.5%).
• 2 Crit Chance bonus reduced to 3.86% (from 4.25%).
• 3 Crit Chance bonus reduced to 0.86% (from .93%).



[color="#3073f3"]Targeting Computer Design Notes: The Critical Chance boost provided from Targeting Computer equipment provided a disproportionate boost to the lower tiers of the equipment compared to the higher tiers. We've gone through and adjusted the distribution of Crit Chance bonuses into a more linear arrangement, based on the final Mk 7 TC, to provide a fairer distribution of the bonus through the TC line.[/color]

Ballistic Weapons

C-UAC2
• Bonuses to Crit Chance have been removed.



[color="#3073f3"]C-UAC2 Design Notes:[/color][color="#3073f3"] In the context of the adjusted crit changes, we feel that the C-UAC2 needs a minor tweak to help better align it against the other similar AC2 class weapons with the removal of the Critical Chance bonus. In the context of other changes, we felt the C-UAC2 was outpacing Crit Damage output against more specialized weapons that are more geared toward filling that niche; particularly when looking at the dynamic between the C-LBX2 and standard C-AC2 weaponry. We're removing its bonus to focus the C-UAC2 more toward a burst DPS weapon.[/color]



Gauss Rifles (IS and Clan)
• Gauss Rifles now only provide a single Critical Hit.
• Critical Damage Dealt reduced by 50%.



[color="#3073f3"]Gauss Rifle Design Notes:[/color][color="#3073f3"] Under the previous Crit system the Gauss Rifle was one of the only weapons capable of providing reliable Critical hits, and was the only weapon that could reliably Crit components with a single hit from 800+ ranges. We have made a series of changes to the Gauss Rifle to reduce its impact on the Critical Hit system and keep its primary focus on massive physical damage at a small heat cost.[/color]



[color="#3073f3"]As a hypersonic, solid-slug projectile that carries no explosive material, a Gauss slug would produce highly-focused kinetic damage to its impact area, rather than impacting with an explosive shell. To further play into this attribute, we are removing the ability for Gauss to inflict multiple Critical hits. Single Critical hit chances can still be boosted with the use of a Targeting Computer.[/color]



[color="#3073f3"]Additionally, its Critical Damage will now only be 50% of its physical Damage. This results in 7.5 Critical Damage Dealt within optimal range. Coinciding with Crit health changes, this damage output is still sufficient to take out small Components or Heat Sinks in a single hit, but will now require multiple hits to take out larger weapons and components.[/color]



[color="#3073f3"]These changes were made to reduce the overall impact of the weapon through the Critical system to better reward other weapons more focused toward dealing Critical damage.[/color]

Energy Weapons

PPC/ERPPC/C-ERPPC
• Critical Damage Dealt reduced by 25%.



[color="#3073f3"]PPC Design Notes:[/color][color="#3073f3"] Like with Gauss Rifle, we have reduced the reliability of the PPC line as a Crit-seeking weapon to better balance it against weapons more specialized toward Critical damage. Its Critical damage will now only be 75% of its physical damage, resulting in the same 7.5 Critical damage at optimal range as the Gauss Rifle.[/color]

Missile Weapons

SRM4
• Spread increased to 4 (from 3.5).
C-SRM4
• Spread increased to 4.5 (from 4).



[color="#3073f3"]SRM Design Notes:[/color][color="#3073f3"] When it came to SRM balance within the weapon line, the SRM 4 has always stood out as being 'just a bit better' than the alternatives, provided you had the slots. With better spread and DPS when combined with Artemis, the SRM 4 had always produced mass-concentrated firepower on single components at superior DPS, with vastly superior spread, at only a minor heat cost.[/color]
[color="#3073f3"]While initially conceived as a new baseline for the skill tree system, after observing the weapon through the PTS’ we have decided to roll over the values from PTS to help smoothen out its balance against the other SRM launchers.[/color]



LRM5 (IS and Clan)
• Spread increased to 4.2 (from 3).



[url=""%5D%5B/url%5D %5Bcolor="#3073f3"]LRM Design Notes:[/color][color="#3073f3"] Like the SRM 4 changes, after testing these values on the PTS we have decided to roll over these changes to the main game to better balance the LRM 5 against the other launcher types. When it came to the dynamic between LRM launchers, the LRM 5 was often seen as the superior choice. This increase to LRM 5 spread has brought it in line with the LRM 10 to ensure that the LRM 5 no longer compounds its already significant DPS and tonnage benefits over larger launchers.[/color]

And then consider this:

According to the language used in the game itself, a 'component' is a segment of a 'mech- an arm, a leg, a torso section, the head. When you get a 'Component Destroyed' reward or the 'Component Destruction' count at the end of the match, it's counting these (though component destructions that cause a death do not count and are instead simply kills.)

Meanwhile, in posts, equipment (mechanisms, weapons, and electronics gear that is mounted within components) is being referred to as components. While that's not a horrible thing, and an experienced player can usually suss out whether or not you're actually talking about components or equipment after a couple of sentences in most cases, it's a very bad habit to get into, and can easily produce confusion in new players.

Please fix your consistency and use of the term 'component', which your game asserts has a specific meaning different from its use here and in some other posts by your staff.




I would also like to express, again, my severe dissatisfaction with the fact that most Champion builds supplied by the board like/vote system are very not new-player friendly, despite that being one of the goals specifically expressed with the inception of that system. Also with the fact that in many cases the vote is coming down to between three options of which two are almost the same as one another.

It was stated by PGI staff before the first round of proposals and voting that it wouldn't necessarily be just the three most liked builds and staff would consider the builds and their suitability to new player use, but there has been no evidence that this statement was at the time nor later became true.

Nearly all of the builds that make it to final voting, particularly for heavier 'mechs, are highly specialized builds meant for players who already know the maps so that they can predict enemy routes (and thus avoid being flanked), are prepared for some very difficult heat management, can express strong trigger discipline, know how to successfully peek-trade fire, can use twist-and-shoot to absorb fire in a 'blank' section of the 'mech that holds no useful/vital equipment, are capable of spreading damage reliably to avoid component loss, have the pathing and route choice skill to overcome cripplingly low engine speed while still maintaining a reasonable position relative to allies, or some combination of these traits, none of which are germane to new players. This is helping to create a poor and seemingly arbitrary new player experience.

Please, at the least, consider seriously vetting the designs proposed for champion 'mechs with new players specifically in mind, and it would likely be a good idea to go over past selections and compare and contrast builds that were proposed but did not make it to voting (perhaps the ones with fourth, fifth, and sixth most votes, discounting builds that are near-identical to already selected builds) with the ones that did.

Specifically relevant to the current champions, the voting choices on the Warhammer were two nearly-identical builds with terrible heat-management issues (of which one was selected) and one build that could be okay for a player who knows how to work with it specifically but was otherwise not very new-player-friendly, the voting choices on the Mauler were uniformly slow, clunky, and dependent on a player with good peeking and twisting skills, and all of the builds are terrible for any player who has difficulty avoiding getting flanked (such as, specifically, a new player) due to extremely weak back armor frequently combined with both a lack of CASE and explosive ammunition just to increase the threat of suddenly (and seemingly unfairly) falling over.


Beyond that, though, I look forwards to seeing the results of these additions and changes.

Edited by Quickdraw Crobat, 18 March 2017 - 06:25 AM.

[Tiamat of the Sea]

Dran Dragore, on 17 March 2017 - 10:25 PM, said:

i can not say enough how disappointed i am. Sure: new Assassin, looks good. Some minor hurts for SRM4, TC, whatever. Two additional Decals, another swap of the Trial/Champion Mechs, and ... nothing more. Thats it. Only ... stuff. No Maps, no Decals (like the Homeclans like Diamond Shark, Hells Horses,... why do we got the Star Adders ?!?), no "big Stuff" the game needs so urgent and was told coming earlier. Just Stuff for real money :-/ .

But the worst: no Skill System. It looked so promising but now its on the same graveyard like the other "big" changes (for example: energy Draw). Formal "in a future patch". Lets see what happens...

Please dear PGI: bring some needed and wanted content to the game. New Maps (!), new Skill System, whatever. Not only one after another new Mechpack_Clan/IS_Heroes_another_shiny_Mech for lots of real money! Sure, you also have to live and pay bills, and i am one of those who spend more than to every other game i ever played, but i miss really the progress of the game.
Well, for your defense: the new weapons looks nice, but i miss the HACs for the Clans . IS gets 12 Systems, Clans just a few. Anyway, this surely makes my day when delivered. I hope it doesnt shifted in a "near future" for the same reasons like the Skill System...

New skill system was not ready yet. There was definite communication about this already both ways between players and PGI. Please do not complain about not receiving an unfinished product at the originally promised date when it was expressly demonstrated that the original promise was proven unreasonable, and then changed- with explanation- by PGI. Such responses encourage PGI (and when seen in other situations, other companies) to produce products that need to later be recalled or altered and in the meantime do not function as intended or, in the case of things such as game elements (skill system) actually harm the overall utility or quality of the larger product.

Releasing the skill system as it has been so far would have been a worse choice than delaying it to make more refinements. Generally, a better outcome is worth added wait.

If you want to have a house built in three months and it's not done at the end of those three months because the roofing is incomplete and the window frames are empty of actual windows, it is better to wait an extra week to have the house finished than to make the construction crew leave and try to live in it when exposed to inclement weather and any rain could cause the frame of the building to start rotting. Even if you let them work on it at those times when you're not personally present, that's still several weeks when your house is not just at risk but actually being damaged.

Edited by Quickdraw Crobat, 18 March 2017 - 06:36 AM.

[-Quiet-]

hi PGI ... how about some new maps to play ? new things?(that we dont need to pay) no ?
because all we get in the last 3 years so far - its less ...

never heard on a game that every update you get less

yea keep upgrading the store .. good for you ..