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[SmokeGuar]

Fundamental problem about current system is that it is player driven. Like earlier said, people from different parts of world have simply varying levels of tolerance regarding what is considered offensive language. Also idea about reporting (ratting, squealing ) every little thing can be outright difficult to some.
As teams, especially on FW, have varying levels of experience on game. Newer players not getting advice can lead to more heated arguments, this leading pressing report buttons. Problems is, reporters behavior can be just as bad or worse. Does bad reporter get punished? Who knows, because PGI does not tell.

Curling or hockey, that is the question.

[MacClearly]

SmokeGuar, on 20 March 2017 - 03:29 AM, said:

Fundamental problem about current system is that it is player driven. Like earlier said, people from different parts of world have simply varying levels of tolerance regarding what is considered offensive language. Also idea about reporting (ratting, squealing ) every little thing can be outright difficult to some.
As teams, especially on FW, have varying levels of experience on game. Newer players not getting advice can lead to more heated arguments, this leading pressing report buttons. Problems is, reporters behavior can be just as bad or worse. Does bad reporter get punished? Who knows, because PGI does not tell.

Curling or hockey, that is the question.

Curling while popular in Canada is actually Scottish. Hockey is our thing but not officially our National sport...

[Steinar Bergstol]

Alistair Winter, on 19 March 2017 - 05:13 PM, said:

Can we still make jokes about the Swedes?

It is _always_ appropriate to make jokes about Swedes. Danes too.

[RAM]

MacClearly, on 20 March 2017 - 04:41 AM, said:

Hockey is our thing but not officially our National sport...

Sadly indeed it is... along with Lacrosse.

Winter & Summer respectively.


RAM
ELH

[Pyed]

Michael Kail, on 19 March 2017 - 09:26 PM, said:

You're going out of your way to demonstrate how a harmless comment could be taken as inappropriate out of context. Maybe it could be misconstrued, but not for long.

Unless I say it and get blocked and reported before the intent gets cleared up. This kind of thing happens, and some people just want to be offended.

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However, intentionally saying things like that will still get you labeled as a troll. Other trolls will pat you on the back, but a troll nonetheless.

Or I could just say it innocently without any intention of trolling because I don't typically police my own speech like I'm living in a police state.

[mogs01gt]

IMO this isnt a child's/younger people game like League of Legends so most language isnt an issue. Racist remarks are unacceptable though.

[MacClearly]

RAM, on 20 March 2017 - 06:12 AM, said:

Sadly indeed it is... along with Lacrosse.

Winter & Summer respectively.


RAM
ELH

You are right it has been decreed...

Nothing however is sad about the Canadian love for hockey.

[Burke IV]

Im going to go and hide somewhere now.

[Marauder3D]

Steinar Bergstol, on 20 March 2017 - 04:43 AM, said:

It is _always_ appropriate to make jokes about Swedes. Danes too.

As an American who lived in Denmark and Norway for 5 years, they are awesome countries; filled with absolutely gorgeous ladies. Talk about a paradise for a young man. You gents who live there should count yourselves very, very lucky. Good places filled with good peeps.

[process]

I'm basically a free speech absolutist, but it's PGI's game and they can police whatever language they feel like. If they aren't interested in that, well, your online experience may vary. Mute/block as needed, and don't expect everyone else to cater to you just because it's [current year].

That said, I haven't heard any vulgar remarks via coms in a long time.

[Mystere]

Marauder3D, on 20 March 2017 - 07:31 AM, said:

As an American who lived in Denmark and Norway for 5 years, they are awesome countries; filled with absolutely gorgeous ladies. Talk about a paradise for a young man. You gents who live there should count yourselves very, very lucky. Good places filled with good peeps.

Shieldmaidens are awesome!

Edited by Mystere, 20 March 2017 - 08:03 AM.

[Mystere]

Vonbach, on 19 March 2017 - 06:17 PM, said:

Freedom of speech is a thing in the USA. We like it here.

Hopefully you realize that only pertains to government interference to said speech, and has no bearing at all with regard to private institutions/property, right?

Besides, MWO is run by Canadians, not Yanks.

[Mister Blastman]

I come from the 70s. When I watch movies from the 80s, it is like breathing in a breath of fresh air. Ahhhhh. Music to my ears, such wonderful times, the tunes, the language, the lack of political correctness--the people were human and real, not pseudo-plastic fakery we've grown so accustomed to in modern times.

Anyways, since this thread is political in nature, it probably shouldn't be on these forums.

Edited by Mister Blastman, 20 March 2017 - 08:15 AM.

[Mister Blastman]

Yeonne Greene, on 19 March 2017 - 07:35 PM, said:

I wouldn't put much stock in anything "confirmed" by String Theorists, since string theory has not been put through a stringent enough battery of tests to qualify as a scientific theory in the same sense of, say, the theory of relativity.

That's the beauty of string theory--mathematically it is pretty sound as a contender for the "theory of everything." Unfortunately, though, it can't be proven through observation, not in any way we know how.

I like string theory. I think it is pretty cool.

[DaisuSaikoro Nagasawa]

I love how hypocritical people are in stating they dislike racism or homophobia/homophobic/homosexual bashing comments, but "get over it and stop being so sensitive."

Just admit you're a hateful ignorant person if you wish to be so honest. You don't care. You're the same ilk as any person who'll sling nastiness, you just think you're better. You're not an ally, you're not someone who understands... you're likely as entitled as the others and it shows by you being a hypocrite.

[Mystere]

Mister Blastman, on 20 March 2017 - 08:25 AM, said:

That's the beauty of string theory--mathematically it is pretty sound as a contender for the "theory of everything." Unfortunately, though, it can't be proven through observation, not in any way we know how.

I like string theory. I think it is pretty cool.

As far as I am concerned, the popularity of string theory is the result of the "monkey see, monkey do" herd mentality infecting current-day theoretical physicists.

Edited by Mystere, 20 March 2017 - 08:36 AM.

[Mister Blastman]

Mystere, on 20 March 2017 - 08:35 AM, said:

As far as I am concerned, the popularity of string theory is the result of the "monkey see, monkey do" herd mentality infecting current-day theoretical physicists.

Well, I can see why string theory is a thing. Once you start understanding things like quantum mechanics and general relativity, and the benefits and limitations of both, it becomes clear there is a gap and scientifically speaking, it is illogical that two theories that hold up and work quite well in practical application are incompatible with one another and incapable of explaining each other. /breathes after long sentence.

Thus we have string theory. And multiverses. And brane theory, and flat universes, and holographic principles and the lingering questions of: What if this is all a dream? Perhaps it is all in my mind? Do I even have a mind? If I don't have a mind... then what am I? Holy crap... am I just living inside a golf ball on someone's front lawn, and the last time he whacked it was when the big bang exploded?

[R Valentine]

Dex Spero, on 19 March 2017 - 03:56 PM, said:

Several times this weekend I've had enemies type homophobic and homosexual-related insults over chat. I've also heard two racial comments over voip during my time playing MWO. I reported all these people for chat abuse and voip abuse, and will report any comment that sounds racist or discriminatory.

I honestly hope PGI bans these players from the game. It is, after all, 2017. Still thinking its acceptable or funny to call someone ''f*****' or to use 'gay' as a suitable synonym for 'inadequate' or 'disappointing' is ridiculous. We need to evolve past this kind of ''I was just making a joke so its okay to say these things'' mentality. People who insist on using these terms are (at minimum) 20 years behind the times.

On a more positive note, 5 incidents in the 13 months I've been playing isn't that bad. Thank you to the 99.99% of you who keep this game clean and classy. I'm grateful our community is mature enough to make these kinds of immature behaviors a rarity.

Thanks for reading! I look forward to playing with any and all respectful players, regardless of age, self-identified gender, sexual orientation, nationality, religion, culture, etc.

- Dex

Oh dear god, please no. I'd much rather have PGI ban you and leave the people who type a few mean words in chat left alone. You can turn chat off. Please ban the OP. We can say whatever we want over chat.

[rolly]

Bud Crue, on 19 March 2017 - 04:29 PM, said:

Easy now. He's Canadian. Politeness is in he genes and he is used to people engaging one another with decorum and respect.

That being said...

Welcome Dex! Welcome! This is the online society of the future where people hide behind anonymity and use that as an opportunity to be as big of an a55hat as possible! Get used to it cuz it is only going to get worse. Again, welcome!

Hey now. Get it right. It was indoctrinated into us at an early age during our hockey training sibkos. Where we learned to ride moose (meese?) to fight off global warming from melting our National Igloo.

[C E Dwyer]

Coming here and complaining about it, is only going to make yourself a target and exasperate, not reduce or end the issues your complaining of.

Your choices are.

Record it if possible, I know not everyone streams, or take a snap shot of around the time it happened, not the time the mode of game and what map, and manually e-mail it to P.G.I support ( in game report only gets investigated if enough black marks go up against a player)

Ignore it

Block the idiot

Turn off Viop ( I don't recommend this )