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[Bishop Steiner]

Hit the Deck, on 05 April 2017 - 08:25 AM, said:

I'd like a mixtech Yen Low Wang v.2 in my dream:

• cXL300, cEndo, cFerro, 13x DHS
  
• 2x Clan Heavy Medium Laser
  
• and its signature weapon: a single AC/20 with 4 tons of ammo

Your dream, MWO's nightmare and death knell... mixtech, where battletech balance goes to die (well finish dying..clan tech did a pretty good job of starting us down the road to the mortuary....)

[mogs01gt]

Bishop Steiner, on 05 April 2017 - 08:07 AM, said:

I still find myself getting 500+ and 3 kills most matches when I dust it off. I just prefer my HBK or ASN.
Well, that is the mech it was when and if you bought it, so complaining after seems pretty dumb. Also, if you find it useless, I must say "L2P", as it still works rather well, though admittedly not up there with the top tier meta mechs, and again, IT DOESN'T GET CLAN TECH (Mixtech, in point of fact) UNTIL DARK AGE.

LMAO dont give me that L2P horseshit. I just blasted one last night with two alphas. Single AC20s suck and any mech with only 3 hardpoints isnt worth taking right now. Hell I dont remember a match that wasnt full of gauss + ppc snipers. Every match is fought around 600m and the matches are over before the sub 300m mechs can get into battle.

Hit the Deck, on 05 April 2017 - 08:25 AM, said:

I'd like a mixtech Yen Low Wang v.2 in my dream:

• cXL300, cEndo, cFerro, 13x DHS
  
• 2x Clan Heavy Medium Laser
  
• and its signature weapon: a single AC/20 with 4 tons of ammo

Me to. I was expecting this once IIC became available.

Edited by mogs01gt, 05 April 2017 - 09:43 AM.

[Valdarion Silarius]

With all of these IIC mechs? Ok, someone point me to where all of these IIC mechs are because I don't see many IIC's in MWO to begin with.

[HGAK47]

Man ive never been that good with the Yen Lo but it has a lot of sentimental value as it was my first bought mech way back when. I have used it a few times recently but I think I prefer the CN9-D to the Yen Lo.

That being said the shield arm is really quite effective at blocking

[mogs01gt]

Bishop Steiner, on 05 April 2017 - 10:35 AM, said:

wow in such a terrible environment my poor little 3xSRM6 Assassin shouldn't stand a prayer... or my HBK-4G, or my CN9-D... or my YLW.

Oh wait, doing fine in all the above. So yeah, I'll reiterate, L2P. Seriously. If you can't get it done with the YLW now, a couple more SPLs or MLs ain't going to make a bloody difference. Especially at 600+ Meters. Stop looking for excuses, it's not like you are talking about a bloody Vindicator or Trebuchet. If you're too impatient to bide your time for the close work to start (and it ALWAYS starts), or can't figure out how to use terrain to close, that is on you, not the Gundam.

Bloody hell.


Would also love to know WTF a Clan IIC mech has to with YLW... an IS mech that eventually (in the Dark Age) gets MIXTECH, which is a totally different can of worms than IIC mechs, and a sure way to bullocks up the game entirely. The bloody noobery of the rant and demand is just... *SMH*

Could you white knight any harder? Assassins suck and anything with an effective range under 300m are grievers.

Edited by mogs01gt, 05 April 2017 - 12:49 PM.

[mogs01gt]

Bishop Steiner, on 05 April 2017 - 12:49 PM, said:

Lol... yup. Definite case of L2P. Could you be bad and blame it on anything else any harder?

Typical white knight.

Post up your cent stats and lets compare to see who is better with them..

Edited by mogs01gt, 05 April 2017 - 12:52 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

mogs01gt, on 05 April 2017 - 12:51 PM, said:

Typical white knight.

Post up your cent stats and lets compare to see who is better with them..

So there's your epeen measuring stick. As I noted, been running a bit lighter with the Centurions lately because I'm mostly in my Hunchback.... with an AC20, 3x MLasers, and 82 kph top speed. Also there is a YLW with a 300xl, AC20 and 2xMPL, a CN9-A with 275xl, AC10, 2xML, 3xSRM4, CN9-D with 300xl, AC10, 2xML, 2xSRM4, CN9-AH with AC-20, 3xSRM2, 255xl? Need to check that been a few months since I used it. The AL, yeah, definitely don't do great in, never been a fan of laser vomit. Oh the ASN is not even elited yet, but since it sucks so bad, figured I'd add it.

So now that we're unzipped.. yup. I'm a pretty average pilot, as I have always stated. The difference? Somehow I am making it work and not whining like a little girl because of an inability to adapt.

So I will say it again...

LEARN
2
PLAY

[CycKath]

I fully support more YLW hero variants in game, but seriously object to Kai's Clan being the "real" YLW. We are talking about a variant that was only first mentioned in opening fiction of a sourcebook in 2014 and didn't even get formal stats until October 2015.It has no real history compared to Clan Invasion config or even the Clix tech abomination.

[Bishop Steiner]

also NONE of that has a thing to do with the stupidity of your OP... "GIMME MIXTECH cuz Clams IIC".... the ****?

CycKath, on 05 April 2017 - 01:23 PM, said:

I fully support more YLW hero variants in game, but seriously object to Kai's Clan being the "real" YLW. We are talking about a variant that was only first mentioned in opening fiction of a sourcebook in 2014 and didn't even get formal stats until October 2015.It has no real history compared to Clan Invasion config or even the Clix tech abomination.

That's because it's not, OP just thinks Clamtech Crutch will fix his issues with 600 meter PPC/Gauss and those dastardly 300 meter Griefer Mechs.

Seriously. Dude has not once actually addressed a single point made against his arguments.

[Y E O N N E]

Thus thread is diseased.

Pls kil

[SMDMadCow]

Do archived stats include your current stats or are they 2 separate things? I would think they were separate, but I cant really tell.

[FLG 01]

mogs01gt, on 05 April 2017 - 08:05 AM, said:

I dont like that PGI picked the first variant for the mech. The mech is and should be its last variant. I was hoping once clan tech came into the picture that PGI would fix the useless YLW.

I'll take extra hardpoints over inflated armor any day of the week.

I am not sure why you have so strong opinions, especially on the YLW3 with the Mixed Tech.
YLW3 has exactly three hardpoints: 1 ballistic (RA), 1 missile (LT), 1 energy (CT). That is not super hot by MWO's standards, even accounting for some inflation.
Furthermore, YLW3 uses a hatchet, CASE II, and TSM - all of which is unavailable in MWO, and we won't get those with the FCCW upgrade either. Yes, Mixed Tech is big, but we won't get it...

To be honest, I feel YLW1 is still the best choice of all three versions as long as we don't have at least TSM.

Edited by FLG 01, 05 April 2017 - 01:54 PM.

[Ted Wayz]

mogs01gt, on 05 April 2017 - 07:40 AM, said:

...And most rear facing weapons that existed in Lore were turned to front facing in MWO.

Which is a shame.

[Bishop Steiner]

SMDMadCow, on 05 April 2017 - 01:40 PM, said:

Do archived stats include your current stats or are they 2 separate things? I would think they were separate, but I cant really tell.

separate, the archived are from before the last reset, and don't even go that far back. I don't recall when they start.. beginning of 2014 I want to say, but could be wrong. None of the Closed or Open Beta stuff was recorded, that I do know.

[Ted Wayz]

SMDMadCow, on 05 April 2017 - 01:40 PM, said:

Do archived stats include your current stats or are they 2 separate things? I would think they were separate, but I cant really tell.

Do excel files of stats count as real stats or you know...

[Kaeb Odellas]

The Yen-Lo-Wang is my scouting go-to. I love that thing.

[Bishop Steiner]

Kaeb Odellas, on 05 April 2017 - 04:55 PM, said:

The Yen-Lo-Wang is my scouting go-to. I love that thing.

Yeah, it does fit nicely there. That's actually the last 3 matches I had with mine. Still twists and tanks like a champ, though the obviously gotta protect legs even more than normal in scout mode. Still undecided on my Assassin for Scouting, though. So far it seems most at home sowing chaos solo in QP. The SRM4 nerf does make it a little less effective against things like the aSRM6 Griffins, since it's pretty hard to scrape up the tonnage for Artemis. Haven't tried my 3xaSRM6 model 23 yet in Scouting, though.

[mogs01gt]

Bishop Steiner, on 05 April 2017 - 01:21 PM, said:

So there's your epeen measuring stick. As I noted, been running a bit lighter with the Centurions lately because I'm mostly in my Hunchback.... with an AC20, 3x MLasers, and 82 kph top speed. Also there is a YLW with a 300xl, AC20 and 2xMPL, a CN9-A with 275xl, AC10, 2xML, 3xSRM4, CN9-D with 300xl, AC10, 2xML, 2xSRM4, CN9-AH with AC-20, 3xSRM2, 255xl? Need to check that been a few months since I used it. The AL, yeah, definitely don't do great in, never been a fan of laser vomit. Oh the ASN is not even elited yet, but since it sucks so bad, figured I'd add it.

So now that we're unzipped.. yup. I'm a pretty average pilot, as I have always stated. The difference? Somehow I am making it work and not whining like a little girl because of an inability to adapt.

So I will say it again...

LEARN
2
PLAY

So your L2P lines simply BS. I blow you away in Cents. You suck and are nothing but a white knight that will never look beyond your own BS to realize that a lot of mechs need fixed in this game. YLW being one of them.

[Dee Eight]

mogs01gt, on 05 April 2017 - 07:54 AM, said:

WTF are you rambling about?


Arent we at like 3080 or something? Era controlling tech is just poor balancing on PGI's part.

How long have you been playing this game ? currently we're barely 3053 and that's only because of the bushwackers. The timeline advance for the civil war update moves the clock to 3067...in june.

[Dee Eight]

CycKath, on 05 April 2017 - 01:23 PM, said:

I fully support more YLW hero variants in game, but seriously object to Kai's Clan being the "real" YLW. We are talking about a variant that was only first mentioned in opening fiction of a sourcebook in 2014 and didn't even get formal stats until October 2015.It has no real history compared to Clan Invasion config or even the Clix tech abomination.

Actually...wizkids's clixwarrior had the Yen-Lo-Wang in two versions, both Kai's early dark age one and later Danai's upgraded version. This is Danai's ...

http://www.ebay.ca/i...me=STRK:MESE:IT

Introduced in the Vanguard expansion set, May 2006.

Further if you read the sarna entry on the mech... Kai's only "clan tech" was the gauss rifle, ER Medium laser and LRM20 launcher and this was in 3113. Danai's later rebuild of it after the mech had been bequeathed to her with a heavy large laser in place of the gauss rifle among the notable changes and that came in the early 3120s.