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Should Grid Iron Get A Hardpoint Buff?


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#21 Blackphoenix38

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 05:58 AM

the Grid Iron is one of my most played mechs. I've had different loadouts on it, but i keep going back to the AC20 with 2 medium lasers and a bigger standard engine. you have to pick and choose your spots with it.

#22 Bud Crue

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 06:08 AM

Um, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but when the skills tree drops, it is PGI's intention to drop the ballistics cooldown quirk 10% (and eliminate the energy colddown all together). So while some of you seem to think the GI needs a buff, PGI is planning on nerfing it further.

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 07:56 AM

yes! grid iron has sat on the shelf since it got nerfed a long time ago.

#24 Jack Booted Thug

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 08:52 AM

What happened was PGI enticed people to get it by giving it just enough quirks to make it look interesting, then when they had sold enough, time to send it to the scrap heap and quirk the next mech they want to sell.

Cause PGI.





Edit: It needed those quirks just to be decent. It was never great, just decent even when it was quirked out. Now...... not so much even decent

Edited by Jack Booted Thug, 07 April 2017 - 08:53 AM.


#25 Mystere

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 09:02 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 07 April 2017 - 12:08 AM, said:

Add to the GI -50% charge duration quirk or something.


I'd prefer increasing charge hold time.

View PostKaeb Odellas, on 07 April 2017 - 12:18 AM, said:

I think Russ has floated the idea of inflating some really bad variants.


At this point in time, I'd really prefer that PGI spent their limited resources on vastly improving the game itself. But I guess inflating hardpoints is a much easier job. Posted Image

Edited by Mystere, 07 April 2017 - 09:08 AM.


#26 Mystere

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 09:07 AM

View PostLupis Volk, on 07 April 2017 - 03:00 AM, said:

Sorry can't buff MC mechs, these "pro" forumites will cry P2W and screech at all who disagree.


FTFY. Posted Image

View PostBud Crue, on 07 April 2017 - 06:08 AM, said:

Um, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but when the skills tree drops, it is PGI's intention to drop the ballistics cooldown quirk 10% (and eliminate the energy colddown all together). So while some of you seem to think the GI needs a buff, PGI is planning on nerfing it further.


Killjoy!

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#27 Bud Crue

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 09:14 AM

View PostMystere, on 07 April 2017 - 09:07 AM, said:


Killjoy


Sorry. Blame PGI though. Maybe send em a nice note. Since as some claim they only listen to whining, if enough folks whine, then maybe you will get your buffs and the extra hardpoint. Then again I've been bi7ching/whining about their nerfs to my favorite mechs for almost a year and they just plan on nerfing em some more.

#28 The6thMessenger

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 06:09 PM

Now that i think about it: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...22df4acd816ac27

Once MRM is released, this would probably be the new GI meta. The hunch becomes the deadside with the MG.

#29 Hit the Deck

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 06:13 PM

I'm not sure if I'd like that future GI is a meta missile 'Mech because GI was famous for its Gauss Rifle.

My earlier comment being a joke (+300% to HGR range), I'd like it to be quirked for the Gauss family (Light, regular, and Heavy).

#30 The6thMessenger

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 06:28 PM

View PostHit the Deck, on 07 April 2017 - 06:13 PM, said:

I'm not sure if I'd like that future GI is a meta missile 'Mech because GI was famous for its Gauss Rifle.

My earlier comment being a joke (+300% to HGR range), I'd like it to be quirked for the Gauss family (Light, regular, and Heavy).


Prolly be the new meta anyways. I mean MRM40, with a shield left torso that has as much as armor as the CT have?

Im already having a blast with my LRM20A build on that thing.

Still GI needs a buff if it were to stay relevant.

#31 Bud Crue

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 06:59 PM

View PostThe6thMessenger, on 07 April 2017 - 06:28 PM, said:


Still GI needs a buff if it were to stay relevant.


Relevant.

The GI needs a buff to stay relevant.

Well.

So, what does a Locust 3V need to be relevant? How about the Spider 5V or the Anansi? All the Firestarters, the Panther 10P, the Death's Knell? What's PGI gonna do to keep them relevant? How 'bout the St. Ives' Bules? The Kintaro, the Griffin 1S, the Dragons, the Orion 1-M, etc. etc. I am all for bad mechs getting buffs to be "relevant" but that isn't in the cards. You want relevant? I'd settle for viable. But PGI is still planning on nerfing most of these POSes for some bewildering reason.

#32 The6thMessenger

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 07:01 PM

View PostBud Crue, on 07 April 2017 - 06:59 PM, said:


Relevant.

The GI needs a buff to stay relevant.

Well.

So, what does a Locust 3V need to be relevant? How about the Spider 5V or the Anansi? All the Firestarters, the Panther 10P, the Death's Knell? What's PGI gonna do to keep them relevant? How 'bout the St. Ives' Bules? The Kintaro, the Griffin 1S, the Dragons, the Orion 1-M, etc. etc. I am all for bad mechs getting buffs to be "relevant" but that isn't in the cards. You want relevant? I'd settle for viable. But PGI is still planning on nerfing most of these POSes for some bewildering reason.


I'm not PGI man. Please don't harang me for their bad decisions.

#33 Bud Crue

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 07:05 PM

View PostThe6thMessenger, on 07 April 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:


I'm not PGI man. Please don't harang me for their bad decisions.


Sorry. My disdain and frustration with PGI and its lack of awareness of which mechs are "under performers" and why is reserved exclusively for them.

#34 Mcgral18

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 07:47 PM

View PostLupis Volk, on 07 April 2017 - 03:00 AM, said:

Sorry can't buff MC mechs, these forumites will cry P2W and screech at all who disagree.

View PostPika, on 07 April 2017 - 04:33 AM, said:


It's an IS Mech, Trust me, they won't even mention it. Only clan 'Mechs get the "OMG P2W!" screeching treatment.


You two must not read the forums very often, then


Or are just highly suggestive in your reading, and only seek to remember the things which fit your opinion

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 07:58 PM

The Grid Iron exists for 2 reasons:

1.) Gauss Quirks
2.) It can Narc with an AC/20 on standby.


Those are the only reasons to use it.

#36 Ted Wayz

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 08:23 PM

I would be happy if my SE Grid Iron was recognized as a hero.

#37 Kin3ticX

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 08:26 PM

obviously you put an LRM-20+A in that hardpoint (you dont)

#38 InspectorG

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 08:47 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 07 April 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:


Or are just highly suggestive in your reading, and only seek to remember the things which fit your opinion


Not to be too much of a d***, but in game where most players cant even press 'R' or look at their radar, how they gonna tell the difference between P2W and P2optimize-bad-mechs?

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 09:12 PM

View PostBud Crue, on 07 April 2017 - 09:14 AM, said:

Sorry. Blame PGI though. Maybe send em a nice note. Since as some claim they only listen to whining, if enough folks whine, then maybe you will get your buffs and the extra hardpoint. Then again I've been bi7ching/whining about their nerfs to my favorite mechs for almost a year and they just plan on nerfing em some more.


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Russ Bullock‏ @russ_bullock Mar 13
Replying to @BishopSteiner

I am fine disagreeing with the community on some aspects of balance as we have shown that is going to happen


Here is the reply about balance and the new skill tree. Good luck with that note.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 07 April 2017 - 09:12 PM.


#40 Lupis Volk

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 11:10 PM

View PostInspectorG, on 07 April 2017 - 08:47 PM, said:


Not to be too much of a d***, but in game where most players cant even press 'R' or look at their radar, how they gonna tell the difference between P2W and P2optimize-bad-mechs?

P2optimize has been the running theme, heck some clan heros were heralded as that and the forum cheered. Now it seems piss and vinegar flows freely in the veins of most forumites and all they can do is excrete salt, at this point my salt farm will be having a glut of salt.

Edited by Lupis Volk, 07 April 2017 - 11:11 PM.






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