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#21 Alexander of Macedon

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 12:44 PM

Hey, be fair. Tater assaults will be tater assaults even if they're not packing LRMs.

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Yes, you're reading that correctly. Alpha Lance: 1x Assassin, 2x Locust, 1x Kit Fox. 54% of the team's damage. Our Kit Fox outdamaged a King Crab, Kodiak-3, Atlas, Battlemaster, Rifleman, and two Jagermechs. We caught out and killed the enemy Spider less than two minutes after match start. At one point we had the enemy team so badly squirreled that they were spread across a ~2km stretch, with one lance totally isolated from the rest of their team. Half our heavies/assaults hid behind buildings the entire match, the other half decided to stroll into the gap and give a third of the enemy team their backs.

So, uh. Be glad you only had two assaults hiding in the back. That's barely worse than the usual one AFK assault.

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 01:03 PM

View PostAlexander of Macedon, on 08 April 2017 - 12:44 PM, said:

Hey, be fair. Tater assaults will be tater assaults even if they're not packing LRMs.

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Yes, you're reading that correctly. Alpha Lance: 1x Assassin, 2x Locust, 1x Kit Fox. 54% of the team's damage. Our Kit Fox outdamaged a King Crab, Kodiak-3, Atlas, Battlemaster, Rifleman, and two Jagermechs. We caught out and killed the enemy Spider less than two minutes after match start. At one point we had the enemy team so badly squirreled that they were spread across a ~2km stretch, with one lance totally isolated from the rest of their team. Half our heavies/assaults hid behind buildings the entire match, the other half decided to stroll into the gap and give a third of the enemy team their backs.

So, uh. Be glad you only had two assaults hiding in the back. That's barely worse than the usual one AFK assault.
lol that's horrible man I'm sorry. The original purpose of this post was to just educate noobies wanting to assault that are browsing the forums. I did not wanna call anyone out specifically or start a flame war. My intentions were good but that don't mean ****. I should be a better guide in the community. Come hang out with me and my unit dude. Friend me. We will teach you how to be killer in mwo. If not, I'm sorry if this brought you anxiety. I don't like ******* on people and would like to be yo friend.

#23 Valleric

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 01:11 PM

So yea friend me Dee. I'll help you become an amazing assault pilot. My unit and I will help you fulfill yo mechwarrior potential. :)

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 01:12 PM

View PostValleric, on 08 April 2017 - 12:19 PM, said:

I'm not here to argue. Id rather teach people. You two assaults hung in the back making mediums and heavies take the enemy assault charge. There were only two of you assaults on our team and you failed miserably. I won't hold it against you. I just want it to be a learning experience for other noobie assaults. If u wanna lrm fine. Just do it in a medium (sometimes heavy depending on comp). If you play an assault please learn to know what to do as an assault first. That way you are not a hindrance to the team. Take care man.


What am I to learn from this ? That I shouldn't expect to only find solo players in the solo queue and that there will be times where groupless group players needi to be carried ?

#25 Valleric

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 01:13 PM

I'm here to help bro. I'm not yo enemy.

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 01:16 PM

View PostMischiefSC, on 08 April 2017 - 11:41 AM, said:

The OP won the conversation when he pointed out that the LRM Battlemaster


Except he lost it already with his first sentence...

"Its early in the morning so none of my buddies are on and had to drop solo"

Right there was all anyone needed to know that whatever followed was going to be yet another troll lrm complaints post.

View PostValleric, on 08 April 2017 - 01:13 PM, said:

I'm here to help bro. I'm not yo enemy.


And I don't want or need your help. "nuff said.

#27 Valleric

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 01:21 PM

My bad dude.

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 01:35 PM

Thanks for great topic. I really like great topics and in this subforum 90% of topics are about whining. And yes, I like topics about whining. I like them so much that I'm about to buy myself a Warhawk and do exactly same as those assaults mentioned in first post. Because I want to read about it.

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 01:49 PM

View PostG4LV4TR0N, on 08 April 2017 - 01:35 PM, said:

Thanks for great topic. I really like great topics and in this subforum 90% of topics are about whining. And yes, I like topics about whining. I like them so much that I'm about to buy myself a Warhawk and do exactly same as those assaults mentioned in first post. Because I want to read about it.


Start with a WHK-A, its got the only CT missile hardpoint, add the B pods... end up with 4 launchers and some energy weapons. You can do up to an LRM75 with them.

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 01:55 PM

@G4lv4tron LoL

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 02:19 PM

View PostDee Eight, on 08 April 2017 - 10:35 AM, said:

I was in the LRM battlemaster


Definitely not on a list of "Things That Surprise Me"

#32 I_AM_ZUUL

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 02:30 PM

View PostLorcryst NySell, on 08 April 2017 - 10:44 AM, said:


Can I get a "OP PWN3D" from the crowd ?

Complaining against Assaults, and then having one of said Assaults come in and rebuke you with facts is priceless ... for the crowd watching with popcorn !


You clearly do not understand what is transpiring then... OP was complaining about a terribly played BLR-1S (which is the 3rd best LRM boat in the game, btw) & a x4 cERPPC Warhawk, and how their atrociously bad play caused the team to lose. One of the aforementioned Assualts took offense because of the accuracy of the point. He then proceeded to demonstrate the WHY of determines what makes him so bad... he is a selfish player who only cares about his individual scores not winning as a team. The people who Hide Harder in the back doing nothing but crow about how they did the most damage... it sucks when you get too many of them on your team, cause you are going to lose every time to any kind of semi-coordinated maneuver which on Canyon just means 9 enemy mechs pushing D4 together.

But you are T5 so i guess I can not hold your lack of understanding about Positioning & Movement against you... FYI- we are playing a game of chess, we just to get to have the fun of shooting each other.

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 02:46 PM

Well, I was Tier 4 before I had to take a three months break ...and yes, I'm new, and still learning.

Thank you for explaining instead of flaming and salting my wounds.

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 02:47 PM

View PostFireStoat, on 08 April 2017 - 11:12 AM, said:

Truthfully, when was the last time you saw a mech of tonnage 70+ loaded with LRM's actually close the distance to the 350-450 meter mark with the group while constantly firing?


Last weekend when I had my Tempest out. That's what I refer to as "Tactical LRMs." If I'm gonna LRM I'm going to do it up close and personal. It shortens trajectory, decreases flight time, increases damage done, and lets me employ secondary weapons.

I like having a LRM launcher even on an assault mech. A LRM15 is nice to have for those times when you can't get a shot woth direct fire weapons without shooting five teammates in the back who are jumping in front of you, or when you're stuck in a trench on Polar Highlands, or when someone is jumpsniping and you can hold the lock JUST long enough to toss a flight over the D4 plateau on Canyon at him, or when they core you out and you use cover to shield you and stay in the fight to support those who aren't cored out. One of my most favorite platforms happens to be a ridonkulous, comedic random gunbag packing a LRM15, an AC10, a PPC, two ML, and an LPL. It's the one designed by a person who couldn't decide what they wanted to bring so they brought everything. But oddly enough, it seems to work. In fact, it often works great in four groups: The AC10 and PPC on one (midrange brawling), the lasers on one (they get hot but excellent for snapshots and crowd control), the lasers and AC10 on one (for facehuggers), and the LRM on one (for shooting over terrain and teammates, or when closing the distance). Probably the most fun big mech I have. Always got something to shoot.

#35 HGAK47

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 03:01 PM

View PostFireStoat, on 08 April 2017 - 10:21 AM, said:

Younger players have fewer issues with this. The 'git gud' generation when faced with a challenging game is all too eager to hit up Youtube to watch tutorial guides for a game they have an interest in, as well as watch streams and ask questions in the chat. It's a peer pressure thing from the internet that has its place and is accepted.

What is mind boggling to me is to watch players who have been in the game for half a year to a year or more that still have the mouse sensitivity at default while I'm dead in spectator mode. That epic struggle to hit a 60 ton mech that's moving in a straight line, out in the open, while using the Zoom module when the target is at less than 400 meters... It's players like this that missed the boat in learning game tips, I think.

Edit - this lengthy video put out by Kanajashi not too long ago covers probably every setting change and start-up strategy that can be covered that any new player might possibly want.



Actual tips start at the 3:10 mark


Thankyou very much. Im not ashamed to say that ive been playing this game on and off for years but I actually learnt a thing or two from that video. Appreciate the tips im going to play with sensitivity a little. I have tried changing the FOV before as thats something I usually always set to 90 ish in games.
I dont know if it is because of habit and feel but changing the FOV in MWO makes the game feel so different and im almost unable to play. I guess you adjust to it over time?

Edited by HGAK47, 08 April 2017 - 03:02 PM.


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Posted 08 April 2017 - 03:03 PM

View PostG4LV4TR0N, on 08 April 2017 - 01:35 PM, said:

Thanks for great topic. I really like great topics and in this subforum 90% of topics are about whining. And yes, I like topics about whining. I like them so much that I'm about to buy myself a Warhawk and do exactly same as those assaults mentioned in first post. Because I want to read about it.

This baby is a crowd pleasing, rock solid team contributor.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...3b56199759e40a2

Group the missiles and... Discover the Zen of the LRM.
Push the button. BE the button.


Edited by FireStoat, 08 April 2017 - 03:06 PM.


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Posted 08 April 2017 - 03:04 PM

View PostI_AM_ZUUL, on 08 April 2017 - 02:30 PM, said:


You clearly do not understand what is transpiring then... OP was complaining about a terribly played BLR-1S (which is the 3rd best LRM boat in the game, btw) & a x4 cERPPC Warhawk, and how their atrociously bad play caused the team to lose. One of the aforementioned Assualts took offense because of the accuracy of the point. He then proceeded to demonstrate the WHY of determines what makes him so bad... he is a selfish player who only cares about his individual scores not winning as a team. The people who Hide Harder in the back doing nothing but crow about how they did the most damage... it sucks when you get too many of them on your team, cause you are going to lose every time to any kind of semi-coordinated maneuver which on Canyon just means 9 enemy mechs pushing D4 together.

But you are T5 so i guess I can not hold your lack of understanding about Positioning & Movement against you... FYI- we are playing a game of chess, we just to get to have the fun of shooting each other.

I didnt even bother calling him out on his lying. Seemed pointless.

Edited by Valleric, 08 April 2017 - 03:05 PM.


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Posted 08 April 2017 - 03:17 PM

If anything its an easy kill for us good players. Just hope he dosnt drop on yo team. LoL

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 03:32 PM

View PostFireStoat, on 08 April 2017 - 03:03 PM, said:

This baby is a crowd pleasing, rock solid team contributor.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...3b56199759e40a2

Group the missiles and... Discover the Zen of the LRM.
Push the button. BE the button.




Thanks, but I will stick to my preferred LRM boat:



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Posted 08 April 2017 - 03:42 PM

View PostI_AM_ZUUL, on 08 April 2017 - 02:30 PM, said:


You clearly do not understand what is transpiring then... OP was complaining about a terribly played BLR-1S (which is the 3rd best LRM boat in the game, btw) & a x4 cERPPC Warhawk, and how their atrociously bad play caused the team to lose. One of the aforementioned Assualts took offense because of the accuracy of the point. He then proceeded to demonstrate the WHY of determines what makes him so bad... he is a selfish player who only cares about his individual scores not winning as a team. The people who Hide Harder in the back doing nothing but crow about how they did the most damage...


Typical sort of response for you. Conveniently ignores the basic fact the OP was complaining because the game impacted his leaderboard ranking...





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