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[Valleric]

Yea it sucks to do a drop being a rock solid player only to be defeated because noobs don't know how to play. I do drop solo quit often and expect derp. But not that much derp. Yea I don't like my leaderboard going down without a solid match. How the efff was this tier 5 in my tier 1 drop? Matchmaker efffed up. Must not have been that many people on this morning.

I will however be more patient with the derp. We must teach them.

If I get beat fair and square thats awesome. Being defeated because assault noobs dont know how to assault is painful.

So please assault right if you going to assault. I don't want you to die for me. I just want you to fight beside me/stay with the team.

[Mingus Dew]

Dee Eight, on 08 April 2017 - 10:35 AM, said:

That was the match I was in before I went out to do an errand, I was in the LRM battlemaster and you were NOT polite in making demands to the assaults. You rushed D4 center with no discussion to the team of strategy or even scouting of where the enemy was first. While you were being impolite over the voip, I scored the first of only five kills we got. Canyon's is a map that favours flanking and using the map fully... and punishes those who think its a king of the hill fight around D4.

Having to go out on an errand is pretty irrelevant, unless you're trying to say you were distracted in game, in that case I would have to say that only validates the fact that you didn't try very hard at working with the team. To follow up on politeness in game, that's also irrelevant to sticking with the team. If some ******* is yelling push, and the team is responding, I don't turn around because his tone of voice rubbed me the wrong way. Half the battle is knowing your location, and a mech like the battlemaster needs to have some presence in taking a couple of hits for the team, lurm boat or not; this coming from somebody who enjoys his lrm80 supernova from time to time. Honestly it's always nice to get some input from some one as good as Valleric (who is killing in the current leaderboards), and whom I personally know to be a pleasant person. I wouldn't take this the wrong way, and instead take it in, and move on if you disagree. If he was or wasn't rude in game, his main statement is valid, and we'll said.

[Snuggles Time]

so, whats going on in this thread

[The Basilisk]

Valleric, on 08 April 2017 - 01:13 PM, said:

I'm here to help bro. I'm not yo enemy.

The pure blatant arrogance with that you claim anyone would need to be "educated" or "teached" by you because you do not concur with their style of playing might instill a certain hostility, yes.

Further giving selfish motives like that you are forced to play with ppl that might affect your leaderboard ranking and dont like this so others have to change is....wow just wow.

And last, repeadedly claiming yourself to be a rock solid player but instead of seeing the fact that YOUR TEAM got beaten just searching the reason for this within others might rise the suspicion that you are no teamplayer at all.

Edited by The Basilisk, 08 April 2017 - 04:20 PM.

[Valleric]

Just trying to educate on the importance of an assault staying with the group Snuggles. He is an lrm assault but it still applies.

The Basilisk, on 08 April 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

The pure blatant arrogance with that you claim anyone would need to be "educated" or "teached" by you because you do not concur with their style of playing might instill a certain hostility, yes.

Further giving selfish motives like that you are forced to play with ppl that might affect your leaderboard ranking and dont like this so others have to change is....wow just wow.

And last, repeadedly claiming yourself to be a rock solid player but instead of seeing the fact that YOUR TEAM got beaten just searching the reason for this within others might rise the suspicion that you are no teamplayer at all.

You call me arrogant but if u knew me you would know I'm not arrogant at all and actually very nice and friendly. You can twist my words all you want though.

[Dee Eight]

Mingus Dew, on 08 April 2017 - 04:00 PM, said:

Having to go out on an errand is pretty irrelevant,

Except...its how i remembered that specific game and the details OP wishes to lie about for whatever reason.

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Half the battle is knowing your location, and a mech like the battlemaster needs to have some presence in taking a couple of hits for the team, lurm boat or not; this coming from somebody who enjoys his lrm80 supernova from time to time. Honestly it's always nice to get some input from some one as good as Valleric (who is killing in the current leaderboards),

Yes, and with twelve THOUSAND plus matches... i'm neither a noob, nor new to lrm builds or assault mechs. I was positioned correctly for where the enemy was to be finding my own locks, and be able to kill their primary LRM boat early enough to take it out of play. With 1100 meters of missile range, 1200 meters of radar, and firing at targets 700-900 meters away, I was in a nice range band to engage most of their team. But the game didn't last very long to when 2 lances just ran off without a word until they were complaining about being assault-less. Nevermind the fact the enemy assaults weren't actually the ones over running them. Also t I wasn't just way in the back like OP wants folks to believe to better sell his tale of woe. I have enough experience with canyons to know when an enemy is flanking properly and no desire to go join sheep in a killing zone who weren't communicating at all except to complain.

And since he's chosen to bring up his glorious stats and my clearly inferior ones... yep they're above average so far this month... 8 days old that it is... but if you back through the previous 9 months...they're average to below average. Worse than mine for a few of those months. And yet I'm expected to listen to his wisdom ? What? As if its newsworthy insight that group play will often drag up an average players results. There's more to life than chasing ratios, and hanging out with virtual friends.

Edited by Dee Eight, 08 April 2017 - 05:05 PM.

[Bob De Niro]

lrm assualt need to be taught. bad is bad. dumb is dumb. oh well, tier 5 problem lol

[Valleric]

Dee Eight, on 08 April 2017 - 04:43 PM, said:

Except...its how i remembered that specific game and the details OP wishes to lie about for whatever reason.



Yes, and with twelve THOUSAND plus matches... i'm neither a noob, nor new to lrm builds or assault mechs. I was positioned correctly for where the enemy was to be finding my own locks, and be able to kill their primary LRM boat early enough to take it out of play. With 1100 meters of missile range, 1200 meters of radar, and firing at targets 700-900 meters away, I was in a nice range band to engage most of their team. But the game didn't last very long to when 2 lances just ran off without a word until they were complaining about being assault-less. Nevermind the fact the enemy assaults weren't actually the ones over running them. Also t I wasn't just way in the back like OP wants folks to believe to better sell his tale of woe. I have enough experience with canyons to know when an enemy is flanking properly and no desire to go join sheep in a killing zone who weren't communicating at all except to complain.

You are the liar my friend.

[Bob De Niro]

Valleric, on 08 April 2017 - 04:57 PM, said:

You are the liar my friend.

lrm assault boat with 3000 posts lol what do you expect. free kill!

Edited by Bob De Niro, 08 April 2017 - 05:01 PM.

[The Basilisk]

Valleric, on 08 April 2017 - 04:26 PM, said:

Just trying to educate on the importance of an assault staying with the group Snuggles. He is an lrm assault but it still applies.


You call me arrogant but if u knew me you would know I'm not arrogant at all and actually very nice and friendly. You can twist my words all you want though.

You are absolutely right, I do not knew you.
Just the thread you opened and what you wrote.

And my opinion to what you wrote and your intention to "educate" others on how they should play stands.
Its out of line.

Bob De Niro, on 08 April 2017 - 05:01 PM, said:

lrm assault boat with 3000 posts lol what do you expect. free kill!

Are you a troll account of Valleric to add more weight to ... well whine thread about beeing forced to play with players below his dignity ?

Edited by The Basilisk, 08 April 2017 - 05:06 PM.

[Bob De Niro]

The Basilisk, on 08 April 2017 - 05:02 PM, said:

You are absolutely right, I do not knew you.
Just the thread you opened and what you wrote.

And my opinion to what you wrote and your intention to "educate" others on how they should play stands.
Its out of line.

nope

[Valleric]

Hahaha. I know right Bob?

[GrimReaper74]

Somebody's awfully defensive here...
Playing thousands of matches is actually quite the gauge of experience. It just allows for being placed higer in certain sorting orders of the leaderboard. But let's not look at the Tier rating or the Win/Loss ratio. Let's look at Kill/Death. This does not look too well actually.

Also 1100 meter with LRM sounds impressive but it is hardly useful. Flight time is at least 6 seconds during which lock must kept... this would be enough time for me as a target to comfortably find cover. Also at this range, the spread of the missiles increase exponentially.

Rule number one always is: stick with the majority of the team... this goes double for LRM mechs.

[Valleric]

Bob is a veteran class S player. If you won't listen to me, then you should def listen to him.

GrimReaper74, on 08 April 2017 - 05:12 PM, said:

Somebody's awfully defensive here...
Playing thousands of matches is actually quite the gauge of experience. It just allows for being placed higer in certain sorting orders of the leaderboard. But let's not look at the Tier rating or the Win/Loss ratio. Let's look at Kill/Death. This does not look too well actually.

Also 1100 meter with LRM sounds impressive but it is hardly useful. Flight time is at least 6 seconds during which lock must kept... this would be enough time for me as a target to comfortably find cover. Also at this range, the spread of the missiles increase exponentially.

Rule number one always is: stick with the majority of the team... this goes double for LRM mechs.

Golden man just golden. Wish I was better with words.

[Snuggles Time]

good enemy players and dropping in group que are usually the two things to get people to stop putting LRMs on their assaults. However some people just want to see the world burn.

[The Basilisk]

GrimReaper74, on 08 April 2017 - 05:12 PM, said:

Somebody's awfully defensive here...
Playing thousands of matches is actually quite the gauge of experience. It just allows for being placed higer in certain sorting orders of the leaderboard. But let's not look at the Tier rating or the Win/Loss ratio. Let's look at Kill/Death. This does not look too well actually.

Also 1100 meter with LRM sounds impressive but it is hardly useful. Flight time is at least 6 seconds during which lock must kept... this would be enough time for me as a target to comfortably find cover. Also at this range, the spread of the missiles increase exponentially.

Rule number one always is: stick with the majority of the team... this goes double for LRM mechs.

Well if you look through the posts nobody is realy arguing with that.

Just with the correctness of the report and the fact that some leaderboard queen that obviously next to never before posted something in the forums went and created a whine thread about how the bad lrm assault touched her stats in the wrong places and now wants to "educate" ppl how to PLAY correctly in effin group PuG queue.

[Valleric]

Yea Snuggles, I wasn't trying to tell him not to bring lrms on an assault(which is dumb and a weak link to the team), I was just saying stick with the team. Don't hide in back, especially if you an assault. Seems reasonable to me. But he claims to have had thousands of games and is still in tier 5, so he probably is a lost cause.

The Basilisk, on 08 April 2017 - 05:22 PM, said:

Well if you look through the posts nobody is realy arguing with that.

Just with the correctness of the report and the fact that some leaderboard queen that obviously next to never before posted something in the forums went and created a whine thread about how the bad lrm assault touched her stats in the wrong places and now wants to "educate" ppl how to PLAY correctly in effin group PuG queue.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

[I_AM_ZUUL]

Dee Eight, on 08 April 2017 - 04:43 PM, said:

firing at targets 700-900 meters away

and here we have why everyone hates LRM Assualts... cause the majority of them are played so badly & cause so many teams to lose. It is NOT the LRMs fault guys... it is almost always a case of Operator Error not Mechanical Failure, this being a prime case in point of Operator Error. The terrifying part about it is that instead of recognizing the Error this terrible play is being defended... got to get to LRM users early before they learn bad habits and become detriments to whatever team is unfortunate to have them stuck on, instead we can teach the LRMers how to be serious assets to to any team fortunate enough to get them.

#MakeLRMersGreatAgain

[Valleric]

I_AM_ZUUL, on 08 April 2017 - 05:33 PM, said:

and here we have why everyone hates LRM Assualts... cause the majority of them are played so badly & cause so many teams to lose. It is NOT the LRMs fault guys... it is almost always a case of Operator Error not Mechanical Failure, this being a prime case in point of Operator Error. The terrifying part about it is that instead of recognizing the Error this terrible play is being defended... got to get to LRM users early before they learn bad habits and become detriments to whatever team is unfortunate to have them stuck on, instead we can teach the LRMers how to be serious assets to to any team fortunate enough to get them.

#MakeLRMersGreatAgain

In my experience this is 100% incorrect. Whenever I see a bunch of assault lrm boats on the enemy team I think "this is going to be an easy win", and you know what? It is an easy win... every time.

[Erronius]

Snuggles Time, on 08 April 2017 - 05:20 PM, said:

good enemy players and dropping in group que are usually the two things to get people to stop putting LRMs on their assaults. However some people just want to see the world burn.

Or maybe something like..."EVERYONE KILL THE LURM SCORCH"