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#281 RCore

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 11:41 PM

View PostDaymar, on 22 April 2017 - 11:05 PM, said:


Haven't been seeing it as an option at all. If I can't finish the event because I'm not playing enough, that's one thing. If I can't finish the event because there aren't any incursions to play, that's another.

Not seeing 1 in 6, more like 0 for 12.

The actual probability is 1 in 20.

At least this event gave me a good refresher in maths:

[Probability of all 4 maps supporting Incursion] x [Probability Incursion Mode]
= (9/14 x 8/13 x 7/12 x 6/11) x (1/5 + 1/4 - (1/5 x 1/4)) = 0.0504 = 5%
= 1 in 20 matches

If PGI could just disable those maps that don't have Incursion, the probability would go up to 40% or 1 in 2.5 matches.

Edited by RCore, 22 April 2017 - 11:43 PM.


#282 G SE7EN7

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 11:47 PM

Turn up the Incursion rate FFS

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 11:49 PM

- Anyway - noone carried power cell - so make final part of event - impossible.

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 11:56 PM

View PostTiantara, on 22 April 2017 - 11:49 PM, said:

- Anyway - noone carried power cell - so make final part of event - impossible.


- Everything is possible, if you work hard, try again and go forward without stopping.

#285 Tiantara

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 12:00 AM

View PostG SE7EN7, on 22 April 2017 - 11:56 PM, said:


- Everything is possible, if you work hard, try again and go forward without stopping.


- Not in that case... If every single mech killed before get cell and in game no mech with cell at all - it's impossible. You can't get something that don't exist. Noone take cell when first 2 light die... just noone. Medium just don't bother with that also. I try hard... but for all the time I see... 2 mech with cells? And they rather die from overheat... than give someone killing blow.

upd: well 4 hour play - 7 incursion... zero mech with power cell... another incomplete event...

Edited by Tiantara, 23 April 2017 - 12:39 AM.


#286 MaxReloaded

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 01:12 AM

You should be lucky, having 7 incursion games in 4 hours.
Normally is 4 incursion games in 7 hours Posted Image .
Very sad, would be very nice if this could be changed.

...even more annoying is, that people start to decline the incursion mode once it is offered, because they are annoyed of the situation.

Edited by MaxReloaded, 23 April 2017 - 01:15 AM.


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Posted 23 April 2017 - 01:16 AM

View PostMaxReloaded, on 23 April 2017 - 01:12 AM, said:

You should be lucky, having 7 incursion games in 4 hours.
Normally is 4 incursion games in 7 hours Posted Image .
Very sad, would be very nice if this could be changed.


- Anyway in Monday I go to work and have no time (or very little) to play at all. So that event become incomplete. I just have no chance or possibility to kill mech with power cell - when there no mech with power cell at all. So, as for me - that part of event not good... But seems no one run with power cell anymore anyway.

Edited by Tiantara, 23 April 2017 - 01:17 AM.


#288 Marius Romanis

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 01:53 AM

HURRAY!!! only took 2 days.

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Edited by CadoAzazel, 23 April 2017 - 01:55 AM.


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Posted 23 April 2017 - 02:12 AM

Mode-specific events - yuck. Played all night, think I got 5 Incursion games...maybe...

Events like this make me miss the option we used to have to exclude certain modes in Quickplay -- went away when all this map/mode voting stuff came in if I recall. It was handy for events that required "X amount of Skirmish matches," "X amount of Assault matches," etc. Could play normally for a few hours, then start excluding those match types once you completed them. Felt like there was a light at the end of some of these tunnels...

I've already invested way more hours on this event than I had time for this weekend and I'm ready to be done, but now that I'm about 80% complete I feel frustratingly obligated to see it through and finish it. Sadly, I mostly just feel really aggravated with this game right now...

Foresight is a wonderful thing.

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 02:36 AM

View PostCadoAzazel, on 23 April 2017 - 01:53 AM, said:

HURRAY!!! only took 2 days.

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- Ok... I give up... I just can't do that with so rare appearing mode and without mech with power cell in it. How can I do Killing Blow - if mech die before it gets cell or don't get it at all? More of it... how can I get that if enemy mech prefer to blow himself, but not give event point? For whole time from morning I see 4 mech with cell and... oww...

Edited by Tiantara, 23 April 2017 - 02:38 AM.


#291 Apollo777

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 03:04 AM

View PostCadoAzazel, on 23 April 2017 - 01:53 AM, said:

HURRAY!!! only took 2 days.

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#292 RoA Nitrox

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 03:42 AM

At this point, I've gotten so frustrated over the "Fuel Cell carrier kill" that I just threw money at the problem and bought the mech bay instead. PGI, I absolutely support you guys, but please, this Fuel Cell requirement is rediculously difficult and not directly reliant on player skill. A challenge requirement shouldn't reach the point where players have to intentionally change their actions and behavior in order to achieve it. This last challenge depends too much on factors out of our direct control, being the game mode selection and then finding an enemy who's picked up the cell.

This has made it to the point where we have people who act as good samaritans and grab the fuel cells with the intention of letting someone kill them. Bless their souls for being so kind to help others, but really, a challenge should never reach a point where people have to do this.

Edited by RoA Nitrox, 23 April 2017 - 04:31 AM.


#293 Mochyn Pupur

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:01 AM

No play for me until the 26th then - well conceived but very badly implemented mode that has no presence in the QP rotation . . . event rewards or no, this will be on my "Never Vote For" list of modes.

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:01 AM

15 drops in a row not 1 incursion option amongst them and other players are stating the same. If your going to dangle a carrot in front of players that entices them up to play mechs they wouldn't normally select then you should at least give them a taste of that carrot once in a while

Later Edit, on my 16th drop I got an incursion mission

Edited by Terox, 23 April 2017 - 04:03 AM.


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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:10 AM

View PostRoA Nitrox, on 23 April 2017 - 03:42 AM, said:

At this point, I've gotten so frustrated over the "Fuel Cell carrier kill" that I just threw money at the problem and bought the mech bay instead. PGI, I absolutely support you guys, but please, this Fuel Cell requirement is rediculously difficult and not directly reliant on player skill. A challenge requirement shouldn't reach the point where players have to intentionally change their actions and behavior in order to achieve it. This last challenge depends too much on factors out of our direct control, being the game mode selection and then finding an enemy who's picked up the cell.


- More of it... many players don't pick cells or blow their mech if enemy near... not to give that point of event...

Edited by Tiantara, 23 April 2017 - 04:33 AM.


#296 Shenanigan23

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:15 AM

Yep SO frustrating, still trying.... not enjoyable

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:30 AM

Is it true if you kill someone on your own team with the cell, you still get the credit for it?

Not that I want to just player kill, but if I play with some friends, then we have better odds at least of helping each other out???

#298 Doctor Dinosaur

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:33 AM

"Achieve 1 Killing Blow against an Enemy 'Mech while it is carrying a Fuel Cell"
But I like the way you think >:D

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:34 AM

Completed all challenges in 20 Incursion matches, I only played 4 matches yesterday 1 of which was incursion so must have been lucky overall judging by the posts here. This has taken approximately 6 hours of play to achieve.

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:35 AM

View PostShenanigan23, on 23 April 2017 - 04:30 AM, said:

Is it true if you kill someone on your own team with the cell, you still get the credit for it?

Not that I want to just player kill, but if I play with some friends, then we have better odds at least of helping each other out???


- I'm in two steps from try it in practice really... but someone say that don't count.

View PostDoktorbike, on 23 April 2017 - 04:34 AM, said:

Completed all challenges in 20 Incursion matches, I only played 4 matches yesterday 1 of which was incursion so must have been lucky overall judging by the posts here. This has taken approximately 6 hours of play to achieve.


Lucky you - 36 hours still nothing... 1 goal impossible to complete. Just no mech with cells





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