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#1 Slowth

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 10:26 PM

It doesn't have any of the stupid buff's the IS have and yet its been nerf'ed in to Oblivion.
In fact its been hit so hard, its now become a rarely used piece of equipment.
I know a lot of you are going o say this is because of the weight reductions, but it is also this way in Quick play.

I know a few (very small amount) of you are going to post that you use it, an congratulations, but the powers that be have made it almost a mythical mech. Rarely seen and too under-performing now.

#2 Jackal Noble

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 10:29 PM

I wish this were true but the Kodiak is still a hell of a mech.
Unless you're referring to the UAC Nerf, then ya all clan mechs felt that blanket nerf.

#3 SuomiWarder

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 10:32 PM

I saw at least one every other match over 10 games today. Not nearly as rear as an Unbanmech, Victor, Awesome, Cyclopes, , Jeadermechs. Saw only one Atlas across those matches. And what does it matter to the OP if he/she isn't seeing them around?

#4 ChapeL

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 10:43 PM

It's still fearsome, I see Kodiaks in every match, on both sides, with rare exceptions. Granted, in the hands of most people, it no longer outclasses the Dire Wolf with little effort. ( To say nothing of other assault mechs on both sides of the tech divide )

#5 A Shoddy Rental Mech

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 10:45 PM

View PostSlowth, on 22 April 2017 - 10:26 PM, said:

It doesn't have any of the stupid buff's the IS have and yet its been nerf'ed in to Oblivion.
In fact its been hit so hard, its now become a rarely used piece of equipment.
I know a lot of you are going o say this is because of the weight reductions, but it is also this way in Quick play.

I know a few (very small amount) of you are going to post that you use it, an congratulations, but the powers that be have made it almost a mythical mech. Rarely seen and too under-performing now.


First match after reading your post


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2 kodiaks

hmmmm

Tell me about where The Nerf Bat touched you Posted Image

Edited by The Nerf Bat, 22 April 2017 - 10:46 PM.


#6 Xetelian

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 10:49 PM

MAD IIC is the king right now, has more speed and a better shape for spreading.

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 10:52 PM

View PostXetelian, on 22 April 2017 - 10:49 PM, said:

MAD IIC is the king right now, has more speed and a better shape for spreading.

Which isnt to say that the KDK is bad now, it's still a beast but not the latest clan power creep.

#8 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 11:04 PM

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Not sure if trolling.... or..... chemically altered reality?

#9 Deathlike

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 11:07 PM

KDK-3 is pretty strong. If you're not doing well in it, that's probably on you and your build.

#10 iliketurtles87

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 11:30 PM

in my opinion

kodiak 3 is still op as hell, fllowed by the spiritbear.

Everytime i use it, i just feel dirty its like cheating. lol

If you think any IS-mech is better feel free to do 1v1 againts my Kodiak.

#11 Shifty McSwift

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 11:32 PM

KDK so nerfed it is only better than 92% of mechs now instead of 97%... Devs hate me /wrists...

They need more nerfs. But they aren't the only ones.

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 11:36 PM

View PostShifty McSwift, on 22 April 2017 - 11:32 PM, said:

KDK3 so nerfed it is only better than 92% of mechs now instead of 97%... Devs hate me /wrists...

They need more nerfs. But they aren't the only ones.

FTFY

#13 Battlemaster56

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 03:54 AM

KDK 3 still a god among assaults, SB is good but limited to either brawling or lrm support (urgh), the rest is meh.

#14 El Bandito

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:13 AM

Lately I began to question whether certain forumers are simply trolling with this kinda threads, or are indeed dumb as bricks. Posted Image

Edited by El Bandito, 23 April 2017 - 04:13 AM.


#15 Bud Crue

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:17 AM

View PostSlowth, on 22 April 2017 - 10:26 PM, said:


In fact its been hit so hard, its now become a rarely used piece of equipment.

I know a few (very small amount) of you are going to post that you use it, an congratulations, but the powers that be have made it almost a mythical mech. Rarely seen and too under-performing now.


I don't know how to even contemplate such a statement. Its like saying black is white or breathing kills you. How does one contemplate such a contrarian view of reality other than to say simply: you're wrong.

Kodiaks are still one of thee most frequently played mechs I...and based on the above commentary...and most others see in game. It is also still one of the highest rated mechs (see its placement on Metamechs for example). It is still dominating play. I will agree the the planed nerfs via the upcoming skill tree might change that (it is one of, if not thee only mech, slated to lose all its defensive bonuses as well), but right now it is still one of the top assaults...period.

#16 Shifty McSwift

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:18 AM

View PostBattlemaster56, on 23 April 2017 - 03:54 AM, said:

KDK 3 still a god among assaults, SB is good but limited to either brawling or lrm support (urgh), the rest is meh.


It is definitely up there, but I think the Marauder IIC might be in that god slot for assault currently? I am not sure, it has hitbox and speed advantages over the kdk in either case.

But yeah instead of KDK being totally dominant and outclassing so many assaults, it now only outclasses most, such sad face ;)

Just happens over time.

#17 Battlemaster56

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:22 AM

View PostShifty McSwift, on 23 April 2017 - 04:18 AM, said:


It is definitely up there, but I think the Marauder IIC might be in that god slot for assault currently? I am not sure, it has hitbox and speed advantages over the kdk in either case.

But yeah instead of KDK being totally dominant and outclassing so many assaults, it now only outclasses most, such sad face Posted Image

Just happens over time.

Yea it does have some advantages over the KDK I'll agree but I do find MAD IIC to be easy to pick apart like a Dire Wolf from most of my engagement. I would put the MAD IIC in the demi god spot since it's best variants from my opinion the Prime, A, D, and Scorch are the best of what the chassis can bring.

#18 El Bandito

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:23 AM

View PostShifty McSwift, on 23 April 2017 - 04:18 AM, said:


It is definitely up there, but I think the Marauder IIC might be in that god slot for assault currently? I am not sure, it has hitbox and speed advantages over the kdk in either case.

But yeah instead of KDK being totally dominant and outclassing so many assaults, it now only outclasses most, such sad face Posted Image

Just happens over time.


Pokebear is still king of all. MAD-IIC has 15 tons of weight advantage in GQ and CW.

Edited by El Bandito, 23 April 2017 - 04:24 AM.


#19 Shifty McSwift

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:34 AM

View PostBattlemaster56, on 23 April 2017 - 04:22 AM, said:

Yea it does have some advantages over the KDK I'll agree but I do find MAD IIC to be easy to pick apart like a Dire Wolf from most of my engagement. I would put the MAD IIC in the demi god spot since it's best variants from my opinion the Prime, A, D, and Scorch are the best of what the chassis can bring.


Like a 75kph dire wolf hehe, but yeah it depends what you are trying for in terms of its hitboxes, its ability to almost force a specific ST to absorb all damage makes for some weird tankiness in damage transfer through components I think that gives it the real brawling bonus in the twist, but once you know the vitals (crotchplate, right torso, that barn wall of a backside etc), their weaknesses start to show.

KDK has that frankenstein-ish clumsy-ness with very clear hitboxes, it is pretty goofy tall too, where the marauder is longer but shorter.

Dire wolf is the literal whale mech ATM.

Outclassed in every way by so many mechs. 42kph (or is it 48? either way, desperately slow) no decoupling is a bit of a death sentence in MWO >.<

Edited by Shifty McSwift, 23 April 2017 - 04:44 AM.


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Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:38 AM

why ?

so they can sell the next best thing obviously

its their business model





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