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[kesmai]

lol
you had one thing to do pgi.
you ****** it up.

[SnafuSnafu]

kesmai, on 25 April 2017 - 12:46 PM, said:

lol
you had one thing to do pgi.
you ****** it up.

"These General Skill Points can be consumed to unlock Skill Nodes for any 'Mech you wish without needing to spend the usual 45,000 C-Bill and 800 XP cost associated with purchasing a standard Skill Point directly"

You get your value back w/o ruining the cbill economy of the game, which is a good move IMO.

Edited by SnafuSnafu, 25 April 2017 - 01:07 PM.

[C E Dwyer]

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[Telemachus -Salt Wife Salt Life-]

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Modules purchased after February 8th 2017 - the date of our original announcement stating all Modules would be refunded in the form of C-Bills - arebeing refunded in the form of C-Bills. Earlier posts referencing the Module refund, such as the December Roadmap, were updated in February as a result of that announcement.


Modules purchased prior to the February 8th announcement are being refunded in the form of General Skill Points (GSP), which can be consumed to unlock Skill Nodes for any 'Mech you wish.

LOL how is this a good idea? I'd rather have my cbills.

I keep thinking PGI will get their **** together with the skill tree, and I'd start spending money on this game again, but they keep making stupid decision after stupid decision.

Instead of punishing players for grinding mechs, they now punish players for grinding cbills. Typical PGI.

Edited by Telemachus Rheade, 25 April 2017 - 01:12 PM.

[Nesutizale]

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Modules purchased prior to February 8th are being refunded in the form of General Skill Points (GSP), which can be consumed to unlock Skill Nodes for any 'Mech you wish.

Modules purchased after February 8th 2017 are being refunded in the form of C-Bills.

Just to get this right...if I bought a lot of modules before the announcment I get lots of GSP to get back to where I was with my modules...except now I can also spend these on skills.
When I bought most of my modules after the enouncment I will just get my money back without the advantage of getting any skills?

Are you kidding me?
Why not treat everyone the same?
Also dosn't it **** up both sides? One side isn't getting its money back and the other not the GSP.

Please tell me that there is some logic that I just can see.

[Telemachus -Salt Wife Salt Life-]

Nesutizale, on 25 April 2017 - 01:12 PM, said:

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Why not treat everyone the same?
Also dosn't it **** up both sides? One side isn't getting its money back and the other not the GSP.

Yeah they are basically screwing over both sides. Instead of doing a 1 to 1 refund of HXP for GXP spent and cbills for cbills spent.

[SnafuSnafu]

Nesutizale, on 25 April 2017 - 01:12 PM, said:

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Just to get this right...if I bought a lot of modules before the announcment I get lots of GSP to get back to where I was with my modules...except now I can also spend these on skills.
When I bought most of my modules after the enouncment I will just get my money back without the advantage of getting any skills?

Are you kidding me?
Why not treat everyone the same?
Also dosn't it **** up both sides? One side isn't getting its money back and the other not the GSP.

Please tell me that there is some logic that I just can see.

You bought a modules to increase the performance of your machine, you now then get back in turn GSP to increase the performance of your machines..

You didn't buy modules to get new mechs right?

It's fair to an exact point.

Edited by SnafuSnafu, 25 April 2017 - 01:19 PM.

[Jaybles-The-PegLeg-PotatoCaptain]

It kind of really makes no sense to me... I get reimbursed nodes to master my mechs that I'm already getting nodes from mastering them to master them with? So what do I do with all these nodes I don't need?

Guess I'll just have to buy a mech pack so I have something to spend nodes on. Amirite!?

SnafuSnafu, on 25 April 2017 - 01:17 PM, said:

You bought a modules to increase the performance of your machine, you now then get back in turn GSP to increase the performance of your machines..

You didn't buy modules to get new mechs right?

It's fair to the dot.

I bought modules to put on mechs I had mastered. If the mastering of those mechs now equates to a fully mastered mech in the new system, then what in the hell do I do with all these 'reinbursement' points?

[Ghogiel]

Wasn't exactly what I was expecting. I was expecting for the modules bought post feb 2017 to not get refunded as well.

gg I guess.

[Telemachus -Salt Wife Salt Life-]

Considering that the most people's mechs are already mastered, meaning that their nodes will already be unlocked, there is no reason extra gsp from modules. Spending cbills that were earned on a module was a tradeoff of time spent grinding in game. The tradeoff being you buy a module with cbills that you are then capable of swapping between mechs, or spending the cbills on equipment/mechs.

The proposed refund system basically punishes one of the decisions in that tradeoff (spending cbills on modules), and rewards only half of the other decision by giving you you GSP for modules (because GSP can only be spent on unlocking so many nodes whereas modules could be swapped indefinitely). Basically a lose-lose for everybody instead of a straight cbill to cbill swap, and GXP to GSP swap, which would have at least been fair.

EDIT: LOL I'm sitting here shaking my head.

Edited by Telemachus Rheade, 25 April 2017 - 01:24 PM.

[SnafuSnafu]

Jaybles, on 25 April 2017 - 01:19 PM, said:

It kind of really makes no sense to me... I get reimbursed nodes to master my mechs that I'm already getting nodes from mastering them to master them with? So what do I do with all these nodes I don't need?

Guess I'll just have to buy a mech pack so I have something to spend nodes on. Amirite!?


I bought modules to put on mechs I had mastered. If the mastering of those mechs now equates to a fully mastered mech in the new system, then what in the hell do I do with all these 'reinbursement' points?

No you didn't buy modules for mastered mechs you bought modules for the performance it brings. You use it for for future mechs w/o having to grind them.

Telemachus Rheade, on 25 April 2017 - 01:22 PM, said:

Considering that the most people's mechs are already mastered, meaning that their nodes will already be unlocked, there is no reason extra gsp from modules. Spending cbills that were earned on a module was a tradeoff of time spent grinding in game. The tradeoff being you buy a module with cbills that you are then capable of swapping between mechs, or spending the cbills on equipment/mechs.

The proposed refund system basically punishes that one of the decisions in that tradeoff (spending cbills on modules), and rewards only half of a decision by giving you you GSP for modules (because GSP can only be spent on unlocking so many nodes whereas modules could be swapped indefinitely). Basically a lose-lose for everybody instead of a straight cbill to cbill swap, and GXP to GSP swap.

Nobody got punished, with this new system you don't have to buy modules which is correct, and you get reimbursed with GSP for your modules which allows you to master any new mechs w/o needing cbills nor XP.

Edited by SnafuSnafu, 25 April 2017 - 01:25 PM.

[Khobai]

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LOL how is this a good idea? I'd rather have my cbills.

same.

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You get your value back w/o ruining the cbill economy of the game, which is a good move IMO.

hows it ruin the cbill economy of the game? youre implying those cbills werent earned fairly.

if I had known back then pgi would pull this crap I never wouldve bought modules in the first place. I wouldve just kept the cbills.

seems like its more unfair for pgi to steal my cbills I spent on modules and give me general skill points I dont want. because make no mistake, thats exactly what PGI is doing.

Edited by Khobai, 25 April 2017 - 01:28 PM.

[Deathlike]

Like some famous guy said once upon a time...

"Straight cash C-bills homie."

Any conversion to other currency is NOT what I want. I want the money refunded the way I paid it. I'll pay the tree with C-bills anyways, so I'd like my modules unscathed and unconverted to something I don't want a ton of until I'm good and ready to spend it.

[Mazzyplz]

guys just sell your modules now for cbills. you will get half your cbills back.
better than useless gxp.
at least for me, i have thousands of gxp and nothing to do with it

[Cabusha]

Telemachus Rheade, on 25 April 2017 - 01:10 PM, said:

LOL how is this a good idea? I'd rather have my cbills.

I keep thinking PGI will get their **** together with the skill tree, and I'd start spending money on this game again, but they keep making stupid decision after stupid decision.

Instead of punishing players for grinding mechs, they now punish players for grinding cbills. Typical PGI.

Blame the cheapskates in the community for this one. The guys who never modules up whined it wasn't fair.

[Deathlike]

Cabusha, on 25 April 2017 - 01:26 PM, said:

Blame the cheapskates in the community for this one. The guys who never modules up whined it wasn't fair.

I apologize for not putting modules in mechs I don't plan on using long term.

Sorry for being a #cheapskate.

[Jaybles-The-PegLeg-PotatoCaptain]

SnafuSnafu, on 25 April 2017 - 01:24 PM, said:

No you didn't buy modules for mastered mechs you bought modules for the performance it brings. You use it for for future mechs w/o having to grind them.



Nobody got punished you don't have to buy modules now in this new system, and you get reimbursed with GSP which allows you to master any new mechs w/o needing cbills nor XP.

No I used cbills to buy in game items.

PGI is planning on removing those in game items and instead of reimbursing me for them they are offering me something I don't need.

Oh... Yay!.... I'm going to have a billion cbills worth of Skill points and nothing to use them on.

That seems totally fair.

But you're right, I should just buy a mech pack.

Edited by Jaybles, 25 April 2017 - 01:31 PM.

[Felicitatem Parco]

kesmai, on 25 April 2017 - 12:46 PM, said:

lol
you had one thing to do pgi.
you ****** it up.

Modules are being refunded in the form of skill tree unlocks. Things that let you increase sensor ranges, make your guns shoot faster, etc. There are select few people here on the forums who are dense enough to not see that as a good thing.

You bought modules to increase mech performance. You are receiving mech enhancement points as a refund.

This complaint is simply mind-blowing.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 25 April 2017 - 01:32 PM.

[Nesutizale]

SnafuSnafu, on 25 April 2017 - 01:17 PM, said:

You bought a modules to increase the performance of your machine, you now then get back in turn GSP to increase the performance of your machines..

You didn't buy modules to get new mechs right?

It's fair to an exact point.

Exactly I bought them to improve the performance of my mechs...so why do I get Cbills instead of GSP?
At least for one half...the other half of my modules is older...

Edited by Nesutizale, 25 April 2017 - 01:32 PM.

[Khobai]

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guys just sell your modules now for cbills. you will get half your cbills back.
better than useless gxp.
at least for me, i have thousands of gxp and nothing to do with it

the problem is I dont know what modules I bought since february... i dont want to sell the ones that will get fully refunded for cbills for only half.

this is a goddamned mess.

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You bought a modules to increase the performance of your machine, you now then get back in turn GSP to increase the performance of your machines..

You didn't buy modules to get new mechs right?

It's fair to an exact point.

except I never wouldve spent the cbills on modules in the first place (or at least not as MANY modules) if I knew the modules would be forcefully converted into general skill points against my will at a future date. I wouldve just kept the cbills then decided later on how to best spend them.

pgi should at least give me half the cbill value for all modules bought before february, the same as if I had sold them. And then full cbills for any modules bought after feburary.

Edited by Khobai, 25 April 2017 - 01:38 PM.