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[godmonkey]

I do and i do not understand the whining when it comes to the balance question. Is it closer cut then it has ever been? Yes most definitively. Do the Clams have certain advantages like dual gauss and ppc builds, empathically yes on that regard. In the same breath i do have to point out that expecting to beat the enemy where they have the advantage is simply put foolish. Fight them where they are weak and not where the strenght lies. Close in, focus fire and kill them. The tonnage advantage of the IS Favors the IS on drop 3 during FW quite heavily.

I play both sides even if we are currently clan and i actually prefer to drop FW as IS because you get more diverse loadouts for your drop decks. The clam deck can do a few things better but overall IS is very competetive. I even like somewhat non meta builds (heloooo AC2's) on my FW IS decks.

The largest imbalance comes from player skill and this whining can be seen in any online game. We got the same whine in WoT when RSOP was dominating faction play (Wargaming pls nerf good player skills so tiny kurwas can win faction warfare events), but this is supposed to be end game content where you swim with the sharks and if you swim with them excpect to be bitten.

For the IS side the game mode is more punishing as you really need to run good mechs with good loadouts. I run my BLRGs with ****** is XL's as if you do not your firepower and mobility suffer too much. Just twist like no tomorrow and you will survive long enough to kill with the 5LPL you are packing. In order for the IS side to be succesful you need to play to that sides strenghts and have good comms and a drop caller. If no one else does it, take initiative and call the shots. A bad plan is better then no plan at all.

Whoever said that you should outbrawl a brawler timby with something thats less then 75 tons on the IS side. I say Splat Cat to that but the main point is that you shouldn't. You have the tons so use a BLRG instead to kill that brawler timby off. The SRM's spread the damage and you shoot pinpoint damage in the trade.
The ERLarge range is totally dominated by the IS mechs currently as you cannot out trade it with PPC+gauss if the IS mechs drop a unified drop deck.

Here we come to the crux of the matter. On the IS side there are far too many larpers playing FW bringing lurm atlases and other terribad builds with zero coordination inside the drop on what kind of deck to play. FW needs direct fire weapons mainly unless you drop (on the right maps i might add) a cordinated lurm deck 1-2 narcers and 10 lurmers.

The unit i am in is consists mainly of comp players and when we drop 12 man drops we are not looking to squish some random pugs but we are actively hunting for other good 12 man units. Sometimes the small fish that swim with the sharks get eaten in the meanwhile and thats just a part of the game. Overlla the Clam mechs are just better as is evident in comp play but there is a suprising number of viable IS mechs as well. The hopper 5P is just insane with the quirks it has and it can dish out some serious punishment.

All in all i enjoy playing both sides even if the IS has a higher team skill cap and requires more individual skill from the players. I win on both sides of the equation but i don't play larp builds. As an advice to the players that do please check out stock mech monday as it may be more up your alley instead of insiting that the builds should be viable in FW as they aren't. Nor will they ever be.

peace out

Edited by godmonkey, 10 May 2017 - 01:35 AM.

[PFC Carsten]

godmonkey, on 10 May 2017 - 01:33 AM, said:

As an advice to the players that do please check out stock mech monday as it may be more up your alley instead of insiting that the builds should be viable in FW as they aren't. Nor will they ever be.

Where's that Stock Mech event?

Rhetorical question of course, but you get what I mean, don't you?

Edited by PFC Carsten, 10 May 2017 - 04:42 AM.

[Anunknownlurker]

@Godmonkey - what you fail to cover is WHY all the good players are Clan

[Marius Romanis]

Jimmy DiGriz, on 10 May 2017 - 05:02 AM, said:

@Godmonkey - what you fail to cover is WHY all the good players are Clan

There not all clan..... im gud and im not clan.

Evil aint clan MS aint clan 228 aint clan 54mr aint clan to name a few.

[godmonkey]

Jimmy DiGriz, on 10 May 2017 - 05:02 AM, said:

@Godmonkey - what you fail to cover is WHY all the good players are Clan

well simply put they aren't. There is a bunch of good units in IS as well, however there are simply just too many larpers doing stock mech mondays builds in FW compared to the clam population. Even the stock clam mechs are more viable for FW then a stock shadowhawk... making the problem larger. Small fish only would want to play predator and pray with other small fish but FW is a big ocean where the sharks will come and take a bite if you venture out on these waters. Thats just a fact and it would be good to wise up to it and play the meta even if you don't prefer to as this is the end game content. Doing PVP in WoW with a lvl 1 character insisting that you should be competetive against lvl 90 players is just silly, but somehow in MWO the larpers assume that they have a "valid" viewpoint. I disagree. Get with the program or get stomped and quit bitching.

sSome good players play clan simply because they mostly play clam mechs in comp and are so used to playing them that they see no reason not to drop as clam.

[godmonkey]

PFC Carsten, on 10 May 2017 - 04:41 AM, said:

Where's that Stock Mech event?

Rhetorical question of course, but you get what I mean, don't you?

would be fun to give it a swirl if PGI made an official stock mech event. However there would still be stock mechs that are more meta then others and TTK would go down like a rock as many IS mechs have armor that holds up to punishment about as well as wet tissue paper. I mean it could be fun for a few drops until everyone figures out the "meta" stock builds and the diversity falls off completely again.

[PFC Carsten]

godmonkey, on 10 May 2017 - 05:42 AM, said:

would be fun to give it a swirl if PGI made an official stock mech event. However there would still be stock mechs that are more meta then others and TTK would go down like a rock as many IS mechs have armor that holds up to punishment about as well as wet tissue paper. I mean it could be fun for a few drops until everyone figures out the "meta" stock builds and the diversity falls off completely again.

You are probably right, yes. But then, many Clan mechs also have strange loadouts. But of course, people would cluster around the more workable builds instead of the terribad ones. Only natural.

CadoAzazel, on 10 May 2017 - 05:26 AM, said:

There not all clan..... im gud and im not clan.

Evil aint clan MS aint clan 228 aint clan 54mr aint clan to name a few.

This is funny, seeing the red wolf's head next to your posting. Ain't that Clan Wolf or are you logged in with the wrong account for your statement? Especially you being ranked as trinary nova captain, which precludes a surprise change in allegiance by your unit.

And yes, in case it changes, I have a screenshot to back it up:

*SCNR*

Edited by PFC Carsten, 10 May 2017 - 06:20 AM.

[Terox]

I have been trying to achieve the epic challenge,
currently Accumulate a total of 6,600 Match Score 5,259 of 6,600
10,000,000 C-Bills
However for the best part of yesterday evening and this afternoon (UK local times) there hasn't been a "Fight Now" option to continue the challenge. When will this be corrected so I can continue with this challenge ?

[Marius Romanis]

Only supposed to use 1 account on forums.

I've played more as Inner sphere than clan so far this event , waiting till IS premium time runs out b4 activating the clan premium time. IS is more fun than Clan especially with the extra tonnage, meta mechs are balanced. Player skill builds and need for teamwork isn't. (Brawling is harder to co-ordinate than sniping)
But thats why Siege is better, even boreal, when people listen on IS the clan sniping can be neutralised a LOT easier than on QP maps. And the reward of organising and leading IS skittles to victory with their atttocious builds is a greater sense of accomplishment than clan side because its harder to make a terrible clan build/bring a terrible clan mech. Any Stock clan mechs are better on average than any stock IS mechs

[Marius Romanis]

And that means im not clan, im both.
Having said the above, i haven't done much kittentato herding recently because it is a lot of work. 07 to those who have the strength to try it every game. I manage to get myself to make the effort 15% of drops.

[Laughing Fat Man]

Terox, on 10 May 2017 - 06:23 AM, said:

I have been trying to achieve the epic challenge,
currently Accumulate a total of 6,600 Match Score 5,259 of 6,600
10,000,000 C-Bills
However for the best part of yesterday evening and this afternoon (UK local times) there hasn't been a "Fight Now" option to continue the challenge. When will this be corrected so I can continue with this challenge ?

I think your merc contract expired. Try taking a new one and the Fight Now option should show up again.

[Terox]

Laughing Fat Man, on 10 May 2017 - 06:50 AM, said:

I think your merc contract expired. Try taking a new one and the Fight Now option should show up again.

Yeah your right, i just figured it out then came back to the forums to update my post, thanks for the reply though m8, appreciated

[Zzan]

kesuga7, on 09 May 2017 - 12:27 PM, said:

all my IS buddies switched to clans just for event

Then they weren't your 'buddies'. They were mercs that went where the best rewards for their time and effort was.

NightStalker117, on 09 May 2017 - 02:14 PM, said:

Would it be possible to specify the time a day "starts" and "ends" for the daily challenge? I had achieved more than 400 match score during my Monday evening, but it instead counted towards Tuesday.

More visibility on when the rollover occurs would be greatly appreciated for this event and in the future.

Thank you!

It is clearly listed on the event page.

[sub2000]

please use your vote in the pole if you liked or not FW.
https://mwomercs.com...-enjoyable/....
I ask especially those who never bother participating in the forum battles.

[Mycroft000]

I think more units need to take the stance that my unit does. We are in this for the fun of the game. We will not farm for C-Bills*, we will not push drop zones**, we honor 1v1 requests, and we don't take pure meta mechs. We bring the mechs we are most comfortable in and make them work for us.

*Unfortunately Skirmish doesn't always give us the option.
**On Siege defense if the last enemy wave has dropped, we'll push out once the drop ships are gone, but we will NOTshoot at someone while they're still in the drop ship, it's not fun when it happens to us, and I'm not going to subject someone to that either.

[Mycroft000]

Also in regards to the tonnage questions, what if the way to balance it is something that already exists in a manner in Lore.

Give clan groups bonuses for coming in under tonnage on drop decks.

Clans always excelled in the BT universe by doing the most they could with the least commitment to the battle. I regularly drop in 4x 50 ton mechs(NVA) and would love to see a big payout for coming in 40 tons under weight. And I'm sure there would be some way of them being able to calculate the total weight of the whole team's available tonnage 2880-total drop deck weight and giving a multiplier based on that.

[MovinTarget]

Bump them up in the queue if they have the lowest tonnage per pilot.

Separate the trueborn from the dezgra!

Edited by MovinTarget, 10 May 2017 - 09:05 AM.

[Vysir]

With all the aggravation this event has caused me as a PUG, an anniversary date came and went, I sadly failed to notice. On May 7th 2013 a little mechwarrior lost her fight with cancer. I can only hope the one time I took my JR7-DS was on Sunday, from this point forward and until the end of the event, I will run with a Sarah's Jenner in all my drop decks. I think all of us who still play and have her mech should as well, to remember someone who's gone but not forgotten.

[Mycroft000]

MovinTarget, on 10 May 2017 - 09:05 AM, said:

Bump them up in the queue if they have the lowest tonnage per pilot.

Separate the trueborn from the dezgra!

The only thing that we'd need to truly push this is at least one Clan 20 ton mech. and reduce the minimum tonnage for clans to 80.

Edit: The catch is that the bonuses for going so far under tonnage would have to be absolutely massive.

Edited by mycroft000, 10 May 2017 - 09:12 AM.

[godmonkey]

mycroft000, on 10 May 2017 - 09:11 AM, said:

The only thing that we'd need to truly push this is at least one Clan 20 ton mech. and reduce the minimum tonnage for clans to 80.

Edit: The catch is that the bonuses for going so far under tonnage would have to be absolutely massive.

yes clans cannot really build viable decks without any 20 ton mechs to add there and no matter what anyone says the mist lynx is not a viable mech for FW.