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[Ace Selin]

AnTi90d, on 11 May 2017 - 10:13 AM, said:

I plan on leaving the game until the new tech arrives, then making the decision to come back or uninstall.

I'll still keep some forum tabs and Outreach on standby to read about how pissed off people are and how badly PGI screwed it up, though. (..but I won't be eating popcorn; it's bad for your colon.)

Sounds a lot like what i am doing. Really hate that PGI wont be refunding my Cbills for modules they made me waste.

GSP is useless.

[JC Daxion]

Ace Selin, on 12 May 2017 - 06:00 AM, said:

Sounds a lot like what i am doing. Really hate that PGI wont be refunding my Cbills for modules they made me waste.

GSP is useless.

So you really got zero use out of all those modules over the last how many years? This is exactly where people loose credibility with hyperbole.

You played, and used tons of modules, in tons of builds that helped you have better mechs, and use mechs when you wanted with out having to search for said modules. convenience, and built mechs, and better performing mechs is what you got for years for those C-bills.

You can get half of them back if you sell um.. I really don't see how this is that huge of an issue. Even people that have 100's of mechs with um. thats easy 500m- 1 billion in your pocket to buy new mechs.

Even for folks that don't have a ton, can get back 100m easy and pick up 5-10 jmechs at least.


Would it be nice if i got back every single penny i spent on modules? Sure, But being able to sell um all and have a few hunderd mill i didn't have yesterday is pretty darn sweet.

[Tripzter]

I am very excited for the skill tree.. i wont need to buy 3 mechs just to elite the one mech i actually want..

[Side Step]

The whole thing seems so incredible complicated, that as someone who plays off and on I'll just do nothing and hope I won't get completely screwed over. Depending on how the landscape looks after the change, I'll either keep playing or not. My wallet is closed for now.

Really wish they would get that if you remove something from the game, you simply refund in the same currency the thing was bought with. Such a simple concept.

[SmokedJag]

If you want cash value for your used pre-announcement modules, sell them before the patch. You'll get 100% of what they are worth in Cbills.

The purchase price doesn't exist because the game provides no mechanism for you to convert them back to purchase price. Stop looking at that number.

Edited by SmokedJag, 12 May 2017 - 09:17 AM.

[Zigmund Freud]

Side Step, on 12 May 2017 - 09:14 AM, said:

The whole thing seems so incredible complicated, that as someone who plays off and on I'll just do nothing and hope I won't get completely screwed over. Depending on how the landscape looks after the change, I'll either keep playing or not. My wallet is closed for now.

Really wish they would get that if you remove something from the game, you simply refund in the same currency the thing was bought with. Such a simple concept.

Well they are not exactly ripping you off. They take away stuff you bought to make your mechs cooler, and refund it by other stuff, that make your mechs cooler. They did give me 20+ millions cbills and handful of mc this week, so I'll just roll with it.

[Cy Mitchell]

I am waiting for the Patch Notes that should be out this afternoon before making a final decision but I think I will be using up all my GXP to level up a couple Mechs that are not Mastered. If nothing changes, using the GXP now should save me 45K C-Bills per Skill Point come Tuesday because of the HSP I will receive. That means more C-Bills to spend on Civil War tech and more GSP left over to level future Mech acquisitions.

Edit: Patch notes will not be released until Monday.
https://twitter.com/...106193832591361

Edited by Rampage, 12 May 2017 - 11:44 AM.

[Ace Selin]

JC Daxion, on 12 May 2017 - 06:19 AM, said:

So you really got zero use out of all those modules

From now on i will get zero use of my modules. Modules have added performance to my mechs and i have spent billions in cbills on them, that i worked hard for (and paid real money for in some cases to get). Now PGI has deigned that they will no longer use modules and so will take away these useful modules to give me something quite worthless, GSP. As such it should be PGI refunding me my cbills in full. If they had told me 2 years ago that the billions i spent on modules would be changed to this useless GSP, i would have kept my billions of cbills and swapped around my modules instead, so i would still have full face value of my billions in cbills.

Zigmund Freud, on 12 May 2017 - 09:20 AM, said:

Well they are not exactly ripping you off. They take away stuff you bought to make your mechs cooler, and refund it by other stuff, that make your mechs cooler.

Except they are ripping people off. They made this drastic change, not I. They take away stuff you bought to make your mechs cooler and refund it by giving you something you have absolutely no use for at all.
Everyone of my 150 odd mechs is fully mastered, i have enough GXP to fully master dozens more. As i will only likely buy a few more mechs in the future even my GXP is sufficient for me to level any future mechs.

Anyway, clearly PGI thinks it has enough players and its happy to ripoff and annoy some of its most ardent players to push this GSP refund garbage through with the new skill tree.

This will likely be my last post, i no longer care enough of what happens to this game to post anyway, if this is how PGI treats its players.

Edited by Ace Selin, 12 May 2017 - 10:52 AM.

[Big Tin Man]

Preview of me on Monday night:

[Tripzter]

Ace Selin, on 12 May 2017 - 10:45 AM, said:

From now on i will get zero use of my modules. Modules have added performance to my mechs and i have spent billions in cbills on them, that i worked hard for (and paid real money for in some cases to get). Now PGI has deigned that they will no longer use modules and so will take away these useful modules to give me something quite worthless, GSP. As such it should be PGI refunding me my cbills in full. If they had told me 2 years ago that the billions i spent on modules would be changed to this useless GSP, i would have kept my billions of cbills and swapped around my modules instead, so i would still have full face value of my billions in cbills.



Except they are ripping people off. They made this drastic change, not I. They take away stuff you bought to make your mechs cooler and refund it by giving you something you have absolutely no use for at all.
Everyone of my 150 odd mechs is fully mastered, i have enough GXP to fully master dozens more. As i will only likely buy a few more mechs in the future even my GXP is sufficient for me to level any future mechs.

Anyway, clearly PGI thinks it has enough players and its happy to ripoff and annoy some of its most ardent players to push this GSP refund garbage through with the new skill tree.

This will likely be my last post, i no longer care enough of what happens to this game to post anyway, if this is how PGI treats its players.

you dont really seem to know what you're talking about.. they are not "taking away your modules" they are integrating them into the skill tree so you dont need to buy 40 zoom modules.. you get to choose the zoom module in the skill tree in every mech you want. Hell PGI is going above and beyound.. they arent only giving you a refund on a module you've used for ages but they are giving you enough points so you can get it again on multiple mechs.

The only negative is before you could take the module out of one mech and swap it in another but pgi is already making it up by allowing us to get the zoom module on multiple mechs.

You're not getting ripped off.. you just dont like change.

Edited by Tripzter, 12 May 2017 - 12:00 PM.

[TorinZ]

I am waiting for the Patch Notes to see if anything changed on the last refund setup they had from last PTS. If everything is the same, I will calculate out how many of my current modules I will sell off for CBills this weekend, while keeping a bunch for GSP for future mechs.

Initial thought is to keep like 2275 GSP, enough to fully level 25 fresh mechs. I doubt I will have 25 new mechs in my future. I have more than enough now as it is and should really just deal with those. Uziel is the only thing I have left on preorder, and not sure if there is really anything else out there I would pick up. Well, the Argus if the design comes out nice. I will have more than enough to work on when the new tech drops. And should have plenty of GSP to tweak some skill trees after build changes.

[Marius Romanis]

SmokedJag, on 12 May 2017 - 09:17 AM, said:

If you want cash value for your used pre-announcement modules, sell them before the patch. You'll get 100% of what they are worth in Cbills.

The purchase price doesn't exist because the game provides no mechanism for you to convert them back to purchase price. Stop looking at that number.

Big Tin Man, on 12 May 2017 - 10:50 AM, said:

Preview of me on Monday night:

did you guys read my post explaining why we cant sell modules back?

Rampage, on 12 May 2017 - 10:26 AM, said:

Edit: Patch notes will not be released until Monday.
https://twitter.com/...106193832591361

What he says sounds like they have realised the db (database) issue i and others expected was going to cause a problem is a real problem................

[Johnny Z]

Tripzter, on 12 May 2017 - 08:32 AM, said:

I am very excited for the skill tree.. i wont need to buy 3 mechs just to elite the one mech i actually want..

+9000

[Karmen Baric]

Tripzter, on 12 May 2017 - 12:00 PM, said:

you dont really seem to know what you're talking about.. they are not "taking away your modules" they are integrating them into the skill tree so you dont need to buy 40 zoom modules.. you get to choose the zoom module in the skill tree in every mech you want. Hell PGI is going above and beyound.. they arent only giving you a refund on a module you've used for ages but they are giving you enough points so you can get it again on multiple mechs.

The only negative is before you could take the module out of one mech and swap it in another but pgi is already making it up by allowing us to get the zoom module on multiple mechs.

You're not getting ripped off.. you just dont like change.

You have just shown you really have no clue at all, as to why people are upset.
You get the same options you mention above whether you have no modules or if you have 200 modules, the difference being if someone has 200 modules they will lose the modules and get worthless GSP for their large Cbill amounts spent on modules. That is a fact. GSP for many is worthless when you have enough GXP to level dozens of mechs and GSP for hundreds more mechs is literally worthless. Modules swappers are indeed getting bonus nodes for nothing but people who spent billions on hundreds of modules are now getting ripped off by forcibly losing those same modules.

[Appogee]

I'd like your advice on what to do with the 300,000 GXP I've amassed.

I'll be refunded enough General Skill Points to fully Master about 250 Mechs. I'll also receive a ton of HXP for all my commonly used Mechs.

So, is the best thing to do with 300,000 GXP? Should I:

1. Buy now the few Mechs that I don't own (A Cyclops, a Bushwacker or two, a Commando) and use my GXP to Master them?

2. Use my GXP to finish Mastering the few Mechs I have that are only Elited?

3. Do nothing with it?

4. Some other strategy?

Edited by Appogee, 12 May 2017 - 10:28 PM.

[JC Daxion]

Ace Selin, on 12 May 2017 - 10:45 AM, said:

If they had told me 2 years ago that the billions i spent on modules would be changed to this useless GSP, i would have kept my billions of cbills and swapped around my modules instead, so i would still have full face value of my billions in cbills.

And i would not of spent hundreds of millions on mechs i did not plan on using just to "master" one. I could of put many mechs on the back burner shelf. Sorta like i did since the announcement, i know have well over 100m worth of mechs i am waiting to level, with out the need to spend another 200m just to level then one i want.

Sorta like, had i known that resistance II package was going to come with lots of great colors, I would not of spent MC on colors that are almost exact copies. But i don't have a crystal ball, and PGI got about 30 bucks from me just on semi duplicate colors.

Same goes with XL engines.. I've been buying many engines over the last year, at the cost of close to another 100m. Many of those mechs are going to swap to an LFE, and many of my STD mechs are going to need an upgrade too. Should PGI refund all that money to me as well?

I mean there is a point, that you just need to say, i spent cash and had fun. You know like all those games that people paid 15 bucks a month for many years that eventually get shut down? Spending 1k dollars on something i can no longer play, is a bummer.. But me not having the billions i earned in that game is not the thing that bugs me..

[Marius Romanis]

Appogee, on 12 May 2017 - 10:28 PM, said:

I'd like your advice on what to do with the 300,000 GXP I've amassed.

I'll be refunded enough General Skill Points to fully Master about 250 Mechs. I'll also receive a ton of HXP for all my commonly used Mechs.

So, is the best thing to do with 300,000 GXP? Should I:

1. Buy now the few Mechs that I don't own (A Cyclops, a Bushwacker or two, a Commando) and use my GXP to Master them?

2. Use my GXP to finish Mastering the few Mechs I have that are only Elited?

3. Do nothing with it?

4. Some other strategy?

Post images of it after skill tree goes live, its all you'll ever do with it.

[CJ Daxion]

Appogee, on 12 May 2017 - 10:28 PM, said:

I'd like your advice on what to do with the 300,000 GXP I've amassed.

I'll be refunded enough General Skill Points to fully Master about 250 Mechs. I'll also receive a ton of HXP for all my commonly used Mechs.

So, is the best thing to do with 300,000 GXP? Should I:

1. Buy now the few Mechs that I don't own (A Cyclops, a Bushwacker or two, a Commando) and use my GXP to Master them?

2. Use my GXP to finish Mastering the few Mechs I have that are only Elited?

3. Do nothing with it?

4. Some other strategy?

Well If you have tons of GXP, and mechs that are not leveled converting it to level mechs is the best. It will turn your GXP into SP's for what ever mechs you choose.

If you don't have any mechs that you want to level, then leave it at GXP, and convert if you ever need an extra SP's on some mech that does not have enough XP.


Option 1 is the far better deal as you are converting GXP for C-bills in a way.

[- Pestilence -]

Elizander, on 11 May 2017 - 05:52 AM, said:

I'm not doing anything for the skill tree. What I am doing is saving c-bills to buy the new toys when the new tech comes out. :3

During this event i bought 3 new mechs (1 i sold after few hours). Kodiak, Marauder IIC and Orion IIC (sold) but now im starting to save (i hope).

Unless... maybe... hmm... second Marauder IIC i like this mech .

[Appogee]

CJ Daxion, on 13 May 2017 - 01:49 AM, said:

Well If you have tons of GXP, and mechs that are not leveled converting it to level mechs is the best. It will turn your GXP into SP's for what ever mechs you choose.

If you don't have any mechs that you want to level, then leave it at GXP, and convert if you ever need an extra SP's on some mech that does not have enough XP.


Option 1 is the far better deal as you are converting GXP for C-bills in a way.

Thanks for this good advice.