308 replies to this topic

[VirtualSmitty]

Yay for me.

[Vonbach]

I like it.

[Mechwarrior1441491]

The entire tree could have been achieved with an drop down menu when you unlock skills. Range 1-10, velocity 1-10. Drop down to velocity 5 and range 6. click save. decide what other active skills you want.

A firm believer in putting time and effort into skills you WANT and will USE.

It's better than scanning the tree over and over for the bonuses you want. It isn't user friendly or even new player friendly. They've taken steps back in this regard. Could cost them new player retention. I guess only PGI will know.

[Rhent]

The Mutherfuckn NAY of all NAY's on the new skill tree.

Edited by Rhent, 17 May 2017 - 09:25 AM.

[Dread Render]

Big Yay for me. A system like this is can be tweaked and improved and remain viable for a very long time.
Trees can be added, cut, modified... great system. Great Idea.
Love it,

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Dread Render, on 17 May 2017 - 09:31 AM, said:

Trees can be added, cut, modified... great system.

People need to understand they will be VERY resistant to any change outside adding to this one due to the fact they will have to give refunds somehow otherwise (for example fixing the stupid amount of nodes in all the trees).

[sycocys]

Nay.

Individual mech setups - good.
Desync engine - good.
Customizable variables - good.

Same b.s. power buff levels - terrible.
No zero-sum balance - terrible.
UI - f'n terrible.
6 kinds of xp where you only need 1 - terrible.
NPE is going to be incredibly worse..... how was that even possible to do?
No role warfare or weapon balance will be obtained. - because PGI refuses still to listen to the players.

Basically they just repackaged the old system and didn't accomplish much good for the gameplay at all. Something did need to be done, but they needed someone with actual game design/balance experience to contract this out to because they should have figured out from years of total failure to do any meaningful balancing that they weren't capable of it in-house.

[MerryIguana]

[2500kgm3]

Yay. It's way better than the module system and I find it great to spend hours on it to tweak it to my liking tracing optimal paths through the node cloud for each mech, much like I used to do with the mechlab. It's the same kind of customization experience and it is great.

The interface has a lot of room for improvement, however, and anyone with a lot of mechs would benefit from some kind of templates custom templates to sabe, load and tweak

[Dogstar]

Yay but meh.

[Husker Dude]

Nay, it's going to be extremely difficult for the substantial number of players who can't even build mechs properly to figure out how to adequately navigate the skill tree.

[Johnny Z]

Yay

[Wyald Katt]

Dogstar, on 17 May 2017 - 09:45 AM, said:

Yay but meh.

No, Dog, embrace the MEH! It's the Kat thing to do.

[ISE Man]

Need I say more about the Skill Tree Change?

[JC Daxion]

yay.. I am really liking how i can customize it for my mechs. take my EXE for example, i added a little sensors, and lots of range/cooldown and heat reduction, with a UAC jam chance. with the engine desync, the mech moves great even with out any mobility. mech is working much better than before IMO.

I played around with a summoner too, and same thing. Was able to tweak it very nicely. feels lots more mobile with the move/JJ tweaks and a bit of weapons to round it out. I can see the structure/armor tree work well on mechs that boost it already. Should be fun.


As for ease, It looks complicated at first, but after messing around with it for 20 mins, its really super easy. I play mechs for a bit, see what i think they need then add it quick. Already have 3 mechs tweaked, But i also made a copy with different tweaks to see how different set ups play. I am sure once i get the feel of it more, deciding what to do will be easy.

Play the mech and see what you think its lacking. Does it run hot? is it slow? is it tanky but could use a bit more? do you need a unique weapon addition. It's kinda strait forward after you play around a bit.

[MechaBattler]

Yay so far for me. Having tested it each time it was up. I've grown rather accustomed to clicking all the skills I want.

[DAYLEET]

There was a lot more people in game chat that were happy about the skill tree but we have to walk them through the first steps. I wish more people read the forum and patch notes.

[SuperFunkTron]

Yay. It is nice to be able to customize mechs to this degree and really decide what is most important to your play style. I have to say that I feel at a bit of a disadvantage in the tree because immediately upgraded some of my favorite mechs without even testing them pre-upgrade to get a feel for the changes. I can say for sure now that my Warhawk prime torso twists too quickly and will likely be tweaked.

The UI is a little bit clunky and doesn't register all my clicks, even saw my frame rate drop below 8 while just sitting in the lab (usually above 50), but over all I'm happy with the changes. Now if we could only get them to take a look at faction specific mechs

[Papaspud]

So far so good, I figured I would like the new skill tree- at least all builds won't be the same, but I still didn't like getting ***** for my c-bills.

[Wolfgang Grenzstein]

Nay.

How to get to meh:
1) Get rid of respec penalties
2) Show the ACTUAL value change instead of 11% more (when you have 20 armor total 11% for 20ish skill points is jack ****)
3) Tidy up the skill trees or increase the skill point maximum by at least 20% so you can pick about half of what is in the trees in total. There will be no customization if you force people into 60ish points of "must haves".