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[JC Daxion]

So it was very early in match on frozen. I am at 1600m, and i see this little part of a locust sticking out next to a rock.. I fired.. and to my surprise i hit! It popped in a single shot with dual ERPPC's on a nova. Is this normal? I thought they had 20 armor at least?

[Lily from animove]

who knows, random headshot (some heavily take off armor there), maybe he was dmaged before or did heaviyl took away armor. Hard to tell.

Edited by Lily from animove, 19 May 2017 - 09:50 AM.

[ScrapIron Prime]

if it was turned to the side, you could have hit (or had splash damage onto) the rear torso. XL engine goes boom.

[Tarogato]

Maybe hit his rear.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Tarogato, on 19 May 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:

Maybe hit his rear.

Happens a lot on the Locust sadly, shots from the front hitting the rear.

[Bishop Steiner]

with such limited data...hard to say, too many variables.

Perhaps someone was testing out a LCT-1M, and didn't check smurfy first?
LCT-1M

[Metus regem]

JC Daxion, on 19 May 2017 - 09:43 AM, said:

So it was very early in match on frozen. I am at 1600m, and i see this little part of a locust sticking out next to a rock.. I fired.. and to my surprise i hit! It popped in a single shot with dual ERPPC's on a nova. Is this normal? I thought they had 20 armor at least?

The maximum armour points, with out using the skills ot boost it on a Locust is 24 (combined front and rear), that's the CT not counting the 12 HP inside, the ST's are 20 armour with 10 internals...

You are right, they have about 20 armour, but even running a 16/4 on the ST's for a Locust means yo are still hitting the insides from the front with 20 pin point damage from dual cERPPC's... now if you hit the rear armour on a 16/4 split, then you just murdered it by 6 points of over kill.

The other possibility is, and this is vary common at the start of a match when running a locust is to lose a bunch of armour to the potatoes on your team bumping into you or testing their weapons in your general direction, meaning you lose a bunch of your tissue paper armour to them being idiots.

Edited by Metus regem, 19 May 2017 - 09:54 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 19 May 2017 - 09:52 AM, said:

Happens a lot on the Locust sadly, shots from the front hitting the rear.

that's what happens when you can accel/decel so fast you start breaking rules of quantum physics.

[Tarogato]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 May 2017 - 09:53 AM, said:

that's what happens when you can accel/decel so fast you start breaking rules of quantum physics.

They nerfed the Locust's accel/decel, though... it's only breaking Newton's laws now. =/

[Bishop Steiner]

Tarogato, on 19 May 2017 - 09:58 AM, said:

They nerfed the Locust's accel/decel, though... it's only breaking Newton's laws now. =/

Physics have a long memory, and a hold a grudge.

Or maybe it's just Paul. It's why one should never get too fond of a Metamech, man. History has shown when things finally do shift, Paul will punish the hell out of the former champs. Just look at how badly Victors and Highlanders and Shadowhawks and such were treated once Quirks came around, for like.... forever.

[Metus regem]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 May 2017 - 10:02 AM, said:

Physics have a long memory, and a hold a grudge.

Or maybe it's just Paul. It's why one should never get too fond of a Metamech, man. History has shown when things finally do shift, Paul will punish the hell out of the former champs. Just look at how badly Victors and Highlanders and Shadowhawks and such were treated once Quirks came around, for like.... forever.

That being said, I find it amusing that my preferred Bushy the X2 got the best acceleration rate of out the entire chassis line.. Man I am looking forward to the LFE, LFF and UAC/10 for that girl.

[JC Daxion]

Ok.. well he was kinda standing sideways.. it was the back area that was sticking out.. sorta that shoulder hump thing.. It was sticking out and i saw.. locust! he was not moving so i just fired, i was shocked it actually hit being how far i was, but when it popped i was double shocked. I have never done that before to a fresh mech. (was like 2 mins into the match, if that)

[Bishop Steiner]

JC Daxion, on 19 May 2017 - 10:17 AM, said:

Ok.. well he was kinda standing sideways.. it was the back area that was sticking out.. sorta that shoulder hump thing.. It was sticking out and i saw.. locust! he was not moving so i just fired, i was shocked it actually hit being how far i was, but when it popped i was double shocked. I have never done that before to a fresh mech. (was like 2 mins into the match, if that)

Well, rear armor thin, XLs are squishy and if the LCT was reading and buying the MetaCompUberLordKoolAid (and not understanding context at all), he might have had zip for rear armor.

At that range, even 5ish rear armor might have been enough to save his butt, but I don't honestly know what damage a C-ERPPC does at 1600 meters.

But still, it's the LCT drivers own fault... first rule of locust is never stop moving.

[JC Daxion]

well not postive it was 1600m it could of been like 1450 perhaps? I dunno it was a long way anyway. It was frozen, and i just cleared the hill, the one that you can see all the way past the dom point. he was hiding behind the ice on the far side of the circle, that one that is on the other side of the far bridge.

If i wasn't such a terrible shot with a PPC id of actually been happy, but more pure luck.

But yea, that makes since, If the splash damage wrapped around the back, or i hit the back.. Maybe he was twisted just enough that i didn't hit his shoulder, and instead just full on back armor. Either way, it was a first! And no pesky locust that match. I almost felt bad.

[Kubernetes]

Tarogato, on 19 May 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:

Maybe hit his rear.

Probably this. I did a similar thing a few months back. Dual ERPPC shot from 1000m, the Locust turned at the last second and got rear ST blown out.

[Y E O N N E]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 May 2017 - 11:04 AM, said:

But still, it's the LCT drivers own fault... first rule of locust is never stop moving.

Until you've mastered it properly. Then you can stop moving, because you'll know when it's appropriate to do so!

[Metus regem]

JC Daxion, on 19 May 2017 - 02:27 PM, said:

well not postive it was 1600m it could of been like 1450 perhaps? I dunno it was a long way anyway. It was frozen, and i just cleared the hill, the one that you can see all the way past the dom point. he was hiding behind the ice on the far side of the circle, that one that is on the other side of the far bridge.

If i wasn't such a terrible shot with a PPC id of actually been happy, but more pure luck.

But yea, that makes since, If the splash damage wrapped around the back, or i hit the back.. Maybe he was twisted just enough that i didn't hit his shoulder, and instead just full on back armor. Either way, it was a first! And no pesky locust that match. I almost felt bad.

Don't, he was stupid for stopping in the first place.... reminds me of my first kill against as Raven 3L.... I was using my 2xERPPC Timby with quad ASRM/6, came around a corner on old Terra Therma, right behind him, and obliterated him from behind....

[Bishop Steiner]

Yeonne Greene, on 19 May 2017 - 02:32 PM, said:

Until you've mastered it properly. Then you can stop moving, because you'll know when it's appropriate to do so!

Ah but so many are convinced they've mastered it.... only to take dual ppc up the tailpipe.

So.... they obviously were not ready to take the pebble from my hand, grubworm!

On a more serious note.... only time you can assume you are not being flanked is if you have all the opfor accounted for.

I've given plenty of "masters" (and in a straight fight, most of em probably would beat me) a complimentary oil change, because they thought they could stop for a second.

[Y E O N N E]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 May 2017 - 03:45 PM, said:

On a more serious note.... only time you can assume you are not being flanked is if you have all the opfor accounted for.

Well, that's the trick, ain't it?

[Bishop Steiner]

Yeonne Greene, on 19 May 2017 - 04:34 PM, said:

Well, that's the trick, ain't it?

just wait til I get them to add the Holo Decoy Consumables.........