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[Mar-X-maN]

Pat Kell, on 16 June 2017 - 03:45 PM, said:

Dear god, not another one...sure, lets have it your way, let's make everything completely fair so that everyone has exactly the same amount of everything. That's sure to work.

Sorry bub, everything I have, I earned and if I have any say on the matter, you won't get any of it. FYI, not sure if you were referring to me or not but I am certainly not a whale, even if I could afford to be, I wouldn't be.

Sincerely,
John Galt

Then why the **** does it count more what you want than what I want. I am paying the bills for your high horse ****. But you wont let players like me have a playground too. You are not John Galt.

PS: Even though you braindeads don't realize it, I can teamplay better than the most of you. I can drop anywhere anytime with anyone and adjust to the situation on the fly. I don't need to hear you demoralizing the team and general shittalking. I play much better in a team if I don't have to listen to guys like you.

Edited by Mar X maN, 17 June 2017 - 06:14 AM.

[KingCobra]

Mar X maN, on 17 June 2017 - 05:55 AM, said:

Then why the **** does it count more what you want than what I want. I am paying the bills for your high horse ****. But you wont let players like me have a playground too. You are not John Galt.

PS: Even though you braindeads don't realize it, I can teamplay better than the most of you. I can drop anywhere anytime with anyone and adjust to the situation on the fly. I don't need to hear you demoralizing the team and general shittalking. I play much better in a team if I don't have to listen to guys like you.

Amen to this post hit it right on the head.

[DarklightCA]

Mar X maN, on 17 June 2017 - 05:55 AM, said:

Then why the **** does it count more what you want than what I want. I am paying the bills for your high horse ****. But you wont let players like me have a playground too. You are not John Galt.

PS: Even though you braindeads don't realize it, I can teamplay better than the most of you. I can drop anywhere anytime with anyone and adjust to the situation on the fly. I don't need to hear you demoralizing the team and general shittalking. I play much better in a team if I don't have to listen to guys like you.

Everybody already has their own playground. Quick Play is where you go if you want to screw around doing your own thing in a solo queue. Faction Play is where you go if you want to play in a more casual coordinated environment and competitive queue is where you will go if you want to try hard in groups.

A split queue won't solve any problems because the problem isn't groups, it's other solo players. Time and time again coordinated solo players have proved they can beat groups however this isn't a reality because the nature of solo queuing means you don't dictate your team. The queue is still full of solo players with the wrong mentality for what Faction Play is.

More likely than not as a solo player your team will consist of some players who would coordinate together and some players who won't. Playing against a group already determined to coordinate with each other prior to dropping puts that solo team at a disadvantage because they are essentially playing a 8v12.

A team of 12 solo players coordinating with each other vs a group of players coordinating with each other has proved to be equal in Faction Play. The only factor being player skill like it is in any game. You can split the queues and the results would be the same, the team with the more coordinated players will likely win and those players who put no effort into winning will still get creamed.

[Kubernetes]

Mar X maN, on 17 June 2017 - 05:55 AM, said:

PS: Even though you braindeads don't realize it, I can teamplay better than the most of you. I can drop anywhere anytime with anyone and adjust to the situation on the fly. I don't need to hear you demoralizing the team and general shittalking. I play much better in a team if I don't have to listen to guys like you.

Cool story. Keep us updated on your status.

[Mar-X-maN]

Solo queue proves you wrong. And I wont further update you. I'll be enjoying my shiny mechs till the money runs out and the servers go dark. You enjoy your cancer. Its impressive how you can write so much with so little understanding of anything.

Edited by Mar X maN, 17 June 2017 - 10:07 AM.

[Kubernetes]

Mar X maN, on 17 June 2017 - 09:59 AM, said:

Solo queue proves you wrong.

Mar X maN 157 211 0.74 147 227 0.65 369 202

Kubernetes 91 50 1.82 231 77 3.00 141 425

Yeah, you'd rock me in solo queue.

[MischiefSC]

Kubernetes, on 17 June 2017 - 10:11 AM, said:

Mar X maN 157 211 0.74 147 227 0.65 369 202

Kubernetes 91 50 1.82 231 77 3.00 141 425

Yeah, you'd rock me in solo queue.

I'm not a fan of stat shaming but when someone's arguing based on the idea that they know what wins and how or what teamwork is and such they need to be able to demonstrate that.

If someone is going to say that other people don't understand something it would be relevant if they seemed to know what they're talking about.

[Mar-X-maN]

Lol stat shaming not working as intended. Those numbers don't tell you anything. Tell me, what is my setup up? How are my mechs build. How much can I rely on somebody to have my back? How often am I in trouble because I usually play with scrubs.
This just shows how narrow minded you really are.

You better prey I never kill you. It will put you to shame.

Edited by Mar X maN, 17 June 2017 - 10:37 AM.

[Kubernetes]

Mar X maN, on 17 June 2017 - 10:32 AM, said:

Lol stat shaming not working as intended. Those numbers don't tell you anything. Tell me, what is my setup up? How are my mechs build. How much can I rely on somebody to have my back? How often am I in trouble because I usually play with scrubs.
This just shows how narrow minded you really are.

You better prey I never kill you. It will put you to shame.

Sure, buddy. Hey, what are my builds? What are my setups? These are my solo queue stats. How much can I rely on somebody to have my back? How often am I in trouble because I usually play with scrubs? "Narrow-minded" -- yes, somehow these adverse conditions are present your solo matches, but not in mine.

[Mar-X-maN]

So you are T1 and I just made it to T3 this week. Who had the better odds?

But even this obvious stat escaped you.

Edited by Mar X maN, 17 June 2017 - 10:55 AM.

[Kubernetes]

It didn't escape me at all. You're the one claiming you're a better player and better team player than us "braindeads." I don't recall you qualifying that with "normalized for tier and experience." I don't have to make any such claims because it's apparent that the only way you'd beat me in a match is if I blew up from overheating.

In any case, I had better stats within the first four months of playing than you do now. If you were so awesomely skilled, I would think that such skill would express itself in your actual performance.

[Mar-X-maN]

Do you play meta with mouse scrub? Come back when you have mastered joystick or hotas in a close to lore build.

Edited by Mar X maN, 17 June 2017 - 11:12 AM.

[Kubernetes]

Mar X maN, on 17 June 2017 - 11:11 AM, said:

Do you play meta with mouse scrub? Come back when you have mastered joystick or hotas in a close to lore build.

Hahahahahahahahaha

/endthread

[Mar-X-maN]

Kubernetes, on 17 June 2017 - 11:22 AM, said:

Hahahahahahahahaha

/endthread

You just admitted defeat by not answering with yes or no.

[Kubernetes]

How to move the goalposts in four easy steps:

1) I'm better than you braindeads.

2) I'm better than you but my stats don't reflect it because I have BAD LUCK.

3) I'm better than you if you take into account my tier and experience.

4) DO YOU EVEN JOYSTICK BRO???!!

[Mar-X-maN]

Congrats you figured out how I played you for a fool.

[Kubernetes]

How to move the goalposts in four five easy steps:

1) I'm better than you braindeads.

2) I'm better than you but my stats don't reflect it because I have BAD LUCK.

3) I'm better than you if you take into account my tier and experience.

4) DO YOU EVEN JOYSTICK BRO???!!

5) HA! I was trying to convince you I'm a big-mouth potato the whole time! Mission accomplished. #winning

[MischiefSC]

Mar X maN, on 17 June 2017 - 11:25 AM, said:

You just admitted defeat by not answering with yes or no.

So you're a bad who plays bad mechs with bad controller setup.

As someone in T2 I drop with the same people you do but win way more often.

You making bad decisions about builds and controllers doesn't equate to anything but not being as valuable of a teammate to your team. As a sidenote I've known several people with a w/L over 1.0 while using a joystick. I don't mean this as an insult but to maintain perspective - you're not better at the game than the people you're arguing with.

You have just as much right to an opinion about things as anyone else. However that opinion does not carry the weight of a history of success behind it. That's fine - I argue on the topic of comp play as a balancing environment and other topics I'm not a direct expert on. You just have to argue based on the merits of your arguments, not the authority of your opinion.

For example Pat Kell, who you disparaged originally and said you were better than, is literally one of, possibly the most, successful drop caller in FW. Also one of the most polite in channel. Dropping with him on your team and following his calls would make you almost 30x more likely to win a match. You can argue a lot of things but saying you get how to win and play as a team better than some of the most successful team players and individual performers in FW is hard to take seriously.

[Mar-X-maN]

Its pointless to try discussing with brown sea big fishes. You boneheads just refuse to understand that there are other players in pugs that play for very different reasons than your win at all costs. Some pug because of real life obligations, some play drunk or
for shits and giggles or because Battletech. You already have all content to yourself. You can solo, group, or FP as you wish.
But a solo FP offends you for no good reason. Even if you could play in there too. Your arguments are flawed. Sure organized pugs will stomp unorganized ones, but both pug teams would have equal chances unless some snowflake unit players sync drop.

You guys don't come off as nice people anyone would like to spend their free time with. I dropped with a few decent units
and clearly was carried to victory by clan wet dog in the first Tukkayid Event. Anyway since most of you wont allow my real money mechs
no use applying for a unit again. I have seen your "endgame". It hasn't improved much since I left. Even honest comp players
admit its boring. Can't believe anyone is watching MWO on twitch. Seriously I have seen more original AI in singleplayer games.

Dropping with him on your team and following his calls would make you almost 30x more likely to win a match.
So you are saying my stats would improve 30fold so i'd have a w/l over 30? And maybe better K/D for shooting fish in a barrel?

Your reasoning in this thread is inconsistent. Either I suck because I am a terribad who is doing everything wrong or I suck because I don't play with the right people. It wasn't me who had to use stat shaming to prove that someone who plays competitively is inherently better than someone who doesn't even try to compete. Do I always bring my A game. Yes.
Do I play solely for the win? No. I play for Battletech moments. I don't mind being seal clubbed if its entertaining.
I don't mind spending the whole match watching my teams weak spot and look at the scenery only to get overrun when my team fails. I am not making bad decisions about builds and controllers. I am playing MechWarrior like I intended to when I crowdfunded this game.

Anyway, its pointless. This game gets another premade content that's gated to randoms. Have fun with that. I hear the first teams are snowflaking and theorycrafting how to game the system so they don't have to play the real pros that everyone is copycatting from. Maybe I'll just buy two more trash hero mechs to pitch in for EMPs prize money so they more happily sealclub the rest of you OP teamplayers who can so awesomely brute force everything. If only you could try to be at least more entertaining when sealclubbing.

Honestly from how most of you tread people on the forum and in game you are as much to blame for the sorry state of the game and community as PGI is.

**** now I wasted valuable time on a pointless post, in a pointless thread on a pointless forum.

Edited by Mar X maN, 17 June 2017 - 07:43 PM.

[Pat Kell]

Mar X maN, on 17 June 2017 - 05:55 AM, said:

Then why the **** does it count more what you want than what I want. I am paying the bills for your high horse ****. But you wont let players like me have a playground too. You are not John Galt.

PS: Even though you braindeads don't realize it, I can teamplay better than the most of you. I can drop anywhere anytime with anyone and adjust to the situation on the fly. I don't need to hear you demoralizing the team and general shittalking. I play much better in a team if I don't have to listen to guys like you.

What we want doesn't count at all. wtf are you talking about. I share my opinion, you share yours and PGI decides what it wants to do. No where did I say that what I want matters more than what you want. How am I preventing you from my playground? I don't run PGI, I don't set the rules, all I did was give my opinion and you started with the name calling (fantastic argument tactic by the way...works every time lol)

Also, while we are not perfect at it, we have a pretty solid policy not to smack talk anyone in game, from either side. Things get out of control sometimes but not very often so don't pin that horseshit of demoralizing the team or "shittalking" on us. That's not us and it just proves to me that you have a habit of projecting the bad behavior of others onto anyone you don't like so very little of what you say is of any real value.

Mar X maN, on 17 June 2017 - 07:43 PM, said:

**** now I wasted valuable time on a pointless post.

At least we agree on something. Try hard and you can always find common ground.

Edited by Pat Kell, 17 June 2017 - 08:21 PM.