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[Bud Crue]

It is probably too early for this question, as we are about to have energy rebalance, new tech and then a rebalance effort from PGI, but I wonder if anyone is planning on selling off their extraneous mechs that are now largely redundant due to the skills tree, quirk changes, etc.?

For example: I have most of the resistance mechs. While PGI has bestowed upon me all sorts of HSP (edited) to master them all up, the reality however is that given the reduction in quirks and their stated intention to reduce them more, I see no reason to keep a bunch of mechs that are all essentially the same; or in fact worse in instances where a chassis has objectively less useful variants.

A more specific example: I plan to keep the Grasshopper 5P and 5H but am considering dumping the J and the N. I didn't play the N and J very much before ST, and I see nothing to suggest that they will suddenly be as effective as the P and H anytime in the future. Anything the former can do (with the exception of the J's ability to jump a little higher at the cost of 6 of the lowest hard points and run dual AMS) the latter can do better, so if I should want another Hopper for a "new tech" based build I'd just buy another P or H rather than use the J or N so why keep em?

I figure with all the redundancy just of the resistance mechs, I can probably free up 20-25 mech bays and with my new found fondness for clan mechs I am sorely tempted. The old standby of "don't sell mechs, ya never know what PGI will make into the next OP meta monster" doesn't seem to apply anymore (at least on the assumption that Chris Lowery's comments on balance are truth) so I just don't see a real good reason not to dump the redundant dross that some of these mechs have always been or have recently become.

Edited by Bud Crue, 12 June 2017 - 06:53 AM.

[El Bandito]

Sold plenty of IS mechs once Skill Tree was confirmed. Which turned out to be the correct decision.

[Battlemaster56]

Not really to lazy and my garage fill to the brim with omni pods and weapons I don't touch, the only mech i really sold was 2 mist lynx's and that it's kept the prime. Also make sure I make my mech (both omni and battlemech) different loadouts for various loadouts I'm gonna run with.

P.S: Most the money just goin to level up my mechs and engines and other upgrades that gonna drop me down where I was when selling them.

[BlueFlames]

I am not planning on selling anything, at the moment. I have enough mech bays, C-bills, and various skill tree currencies to keep me going for quite a while, so I've no particular need to sell. That may change in the future, but the balance pendulum may swing the other way in the future too, so I'll make the decision to sell when I need the resources.

Oh, and you should probably try Rak's 8MPL GHR-5N, before you sell that variant. It's still fun, and the 5N really does it better than the other GHRs.

[Ced Riggs]

I'm ditching mechs that consistently underperform and have, in my eyes, little chance of redemption.

The most recent mechs to get put on the chopping block is the Kodiak(s).

[Ultimax]

With 240 million cbills, I'll just keep everything until I run out (if ever).

[Bud Crue]

Battlemaster56, on 12 June 2017 - 06:56 AM, said:

Not really to lazy and my garage fill to the brim with omni pods and weapons I don't touch, the only mech i really sold was 2 mist lynx's and that it's kept the prime. Also make sure I make my mech (both omni and battlemech) different loadouts for various loadouts I'm gonna run with.

P.S: Most the money just goin to level up my mechs and engines and other upgrades that gonna drop me down where I was when selling them.

For me my hesitancy is just the whole lost lost cost fallacy thingy aspect. I mean I know I hardly played the mechs in question before ST and I know I won't after, and based on that alone I should just dump em...but the fact that they are all mastered and have been in my garage for so long makes it hard. And of course the whisper of "remember the Oxide" whereby suddenly PGI decides that as soon as I sell them they will do an about face and decide to actually do something to make them better...then that same whisper says "remember the Huggin" and I think, screw it, sell em.

[Bud Crue]

Ultimax, on 12 June 2017 - 07:08 AM, said:

With 240 million cbills, I'll just keep everything until I run out (if ever).

Yeah...I had the same for a bit. Blew half on 7 clan mechs. Keeping the rest for new tech. This is more about being to cheap to spend MC for more mech bays for still more clan mechs and just scratching the itch of knowing I have a bunch of mechs that are collecting virtual dust.

[Palfatreos]

I would only sell unwanted/underperfoming mechs if you really need free mechbays and you dont have aymore left. It no use to sell 5 mech and buy 5 new mechs bays if you had 10 free mechbays in the first place.
You could sell it for cbils needs but it a dimishing return and bit of hassles like i just let supply cache pile up because it hassle to sell them for cbills.

second they might give impression they wouldnt do much more *roll the dice quirck change* it not like evrything set in stones like how skill tree was introduced. first thinking quirck will be abolished then quircks will be raw stats and now it some quircks + some raw stats and some quircks just removed.


So i would decide to sell a mech just as before the skill tree. Do i have no free mechabay? Do i really want that mech? Sell unwated mech otherwise just let it keep piling up dust i dont need the cbills and selling if i dont need mechbays just hasstle.
just like supply cache.

[Elizander]

I still have like 10 bays free so not really.

[Palfatreos]

Bud Crue, on 12 June 2017 - 07:15 AM, said:

Yeah...I had the same for a bit. Blew half on 7 clan mechs. Keeping the rest for new tech. This is more about being to cheap to spend MC for more mech bays for still more clan mechs and just scratching the itch of knowing I have a bunch of mechs that are collecting virtual dust.

Do you mc for anything else? i personaly only use it on mechbays when there 50% sale or maybe mech that only MC availble if that on sale to but i don't use it astethics just wondering what you spend on.

[Acehilator]

Bud Crue, on 12 June 2017 - 07:10 AM, said:

And of course the whisper of "remember the Oxide" whereby suddenly PGI decides that as soon as I sell them they will do an about face and decide to actually do something to make them better...

Just out of curiosity, did I miss something? Nerfed twice after its release, Jenners in general one of the prominent victims of the global rescale, no compensating buffs for that, indirect nerf by SRM4 spread increase, nerfed again with the skill tree patch...

OT, don't sell anything if you don't need the resources. And don't worry about it until you start running low. Don't forget the mothballs.

[Jay Leon Hart]

I will definitely sell some of my 'mechs - either the less useful Is chassis I have, or the Clan Omnis I have too many of. Not rush, though. I have Mech Bays left to fill

[Palfatreos]

You cannever have to many clan omnis! got 6 ebjs and still feel i need to hoard more ebjs!

[Bud Crue]

Palfatreos, on 12 June 2017 - 07:20 AM, said:

Do you mc for anything else? i personaly only use it on mechbays when there 50% sale or maybe mech that only MC availble if that on sale to but i don't use it astethics just wondering what you spend on.

Pretty much the same, but every once in a while I will splurge on a camo pattern for mech.

Edit...at least I used to. Haven't bought any in a long time. Now just hoarding.

Acehilator, on 12 June 2017 - 07:21 AM, said:

Just out of curiosity, did I miss something? Nerfed twice after its release, Jenners in general one of the prominent victims of the global rescale, no compensating buffs for that, indirect nerf by SRM4 spread increase, nerfed again with the skill tree patch...

Was referring to the period where out of the blue they made the Oxide's structure and quirks "OP" for a bit. Could have used Black Jacks or Black Knights as an example as well.

Edited by Bud Crue, 12 June 2017 - 07:51 AM.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Palfatreos, on 12 June 2017 - 07:45 AM, said:

You cannever have to many clan omnis! got 6 ebjs and still feel i need to hoard more ebjs!

I dunno, there are only so many "good" builds for some 'mechs, though I need (want) to pick up another 3-4 Night Gyrs, just so I can stop swapping pods.

[Palfatreos]

Bud Crue, on 12 June 2017 - 07:53 AM, said:

Pretty much the same, but every once in a while I will splurge on a camo pattern for mech.

Edit...at least I used to. Haven't bought any in a long time. Now just hoarding.



Was referring to the period where out of the blue they made the Oxide's structure and quirks "OP" for a bit. Could have used Black Jacks or Black Knights as an example as well.

well my reasoning from before ST or after still the same

Do i have free mechbays? Yes
Do i want to save the MC for sales? yes
Do i really want that mech now? yes
Do i have mechs i suspect i never or very low chane play again? yes

sell the unwanted mech otherwise keep it.

i am swimming in cbills so that out the equation for me. And i dont mind that it will be pilling up virtual dust.

Jay Leon Hart, on 12 June 2017 - 07:57 AM, said:

I dunno, there are only so many "good" builds for some 'mechs, though I need (want) to pick up another 3-4 Night Gyrs, just so I can stop swapping pods.

you swap pods?o.O seem like tedious task

[BlueFlames]

Jay Leon Hart, on 12 June 2017 - 07:57 AM, said:

I dunno, there are only so many "good" builds for some 'mechs...

The vast quantity of good Cauldron Born builds cannot be expressed by mere numbers.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Palfatreos, on 12 June 2017 - 08:00 AM, said:

you swap pods?o.O seem like tedious task

It can be, hence the desire to buy more NTGs

BlueFlames, on 12 June 2017 - 08:01 AM, said:

The vast quantity of good Cauldron Born builds cannot be expressed by mere numbers.

While I'm sure that's true, I can manage with just 5

[Bud Crue]

Jay Leon Hart, on 12 June 2017 - 07:57 AM, said:

I dunno, there are only so many "good" builds for some 'mechs, though I need (want) to pick up another 3-4 Night Gyrs, just so I can stop swapping pods.

"Good builds"
I can't speak too that, but the builds I do use are better on chassis with higher hardpoints so those tend to be the ones I use.

I am focusing for now on the resistance mechs like Panthers or Woldhounds or Crabs or Zeus or Black Knights or the aforementioned Grasshoppers that really don't have a lot of variety as far as hardpoint locations being good or bad (with the exception of the hopper variants I mentioned above) so my thought was good or bad just keep the one or two that I actually play on occasion and dump the rest. I mean with minimized quirks for the Black Knights, why have more than a couple 7-Ls or 6s...for that matter why bother with more than one? Respec on a mech that only carries energy is minimal even if you decide snub nose PPCs need to replace the LPL/ML spam you currently run.

Edited by Bud Crue, 12 June 2017 - 08:10 AM.