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Fold Button In Mech Select Box.


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Poll: Fold button? (50 member(s) have cast votes)

Should such functionality be added to CW?

  1. Yes (8 votes [16.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.00%

  2. No (41 votes [82.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 82.00%

  3. Something else, explain. (1 votes [2.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.00%

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#1 G4LV4TR0N

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 03:53 PM

There should be added fold button in dropship mech select box. Could be pressed only once after losing mech and it would end game for player. He could spectate or leave. Other team would equally split all XP/Cbill rewards as for killing remaining mechs. Would save time for both teams in some of those boring 48-0 situations, that no side is enjoying.

Edited by G4LV4TR0N, 19 June 2017 - 03:53 PM.


#2 C H E E K I E Z

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 05:09 PM

But how else will i boost my KMDD

#3 Kmieciu

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 10:37 PM

You will get spawn camped and you will like it, mister!

#4 Appogee

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 10:45 PM

No, it ruins the match for everyone else playing in it, makes it hard for your team, and it's just plain bad sportsmanship.

Last night I saw two members of the CWM unit eject three of their Mechs immediately on dropping, after they screwed up their first wave with a failed attempt to gen rush. I sympathise that it was a hard match from that point, however, abandoning the rest of their unit and the other players was unfair to everyone else in the match.

To see the glass half full, tough matches can be a learning opportunity. And I think we always owe the other players the follow-through on our commitment to a match.

#5 Scyther

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:13 AM

I would worry that this makes it too easy for players to cherry-pick which matches they will fight and which they will abandon. Match-up looks bad? Fold. First wave goes bad? Fold. Team-mate annoyed you? Fold, telling the team it was 'Mr. X's fault' on your way out.

This just makes bad matches worse for everyone who had the guts to stick it out and try.

Poor matches are the result of poor mode design, not something you should acknowledge by adding in an abusable 'GTFO' button.

Edited by MadBadger, 20 June 2017 - 02:14 AM.


#6 Clownwarlord

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:44 AM

Oooor you could get Teamspeak or discord and join a group to drop in cw.

#7 TWIAFU

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:59 AM

View PostClownwarlord, on 20 June 2017 - 02:44 AM, said:

Oooor you could get Teamspeak or discord and join a group to drop in cw.


To hard.

Takes to long.

Don't have time to commit to some militarized Unit.

Don't have time to drop everyday.

Stupid to have to use outside app to comms.

To hard to find Groups.

Need more chat rooms to make it easier.

Or any one of thousands of excuses used to not have to take initiative, be motivated, make any effort, or any personal responsibility for gameplay.

#8 G4LV4TR0N

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 04:30 AM

View PostMadBadger, on 20 June 2017 - 02:13 AM, said:

I would worry that this makes it too easy for players to cherry-pick which matches they will fight and which they will abandon. Match-up looks bad? Fold. First wave goes bad? Fold. Team-mate annoyed you? Fold, telling the team it was 'Mr. X's fault' on your way out.

This just makes bad matches worse for everyone who had the guts to stick it out and try.

Poor matches are the result of poor mode design, not something you should acknowledge by adding in an abusable 'GTFO' button.


Farmers are already cherry picking games. They have everybody on their friend list and know which units drop and when. And they never face each other, you didn't know about this? They only play to farm, never to face each other. Many groups even sub-coordinate drop times by in-game chat/TS. It's a golden rule of CW and MWO.

Edited by G4LV4TR0N, 20 June 2017 - 04:33 AM.


#9 Hobbles v

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:59 AM

Fp could benefit from a surrender function to help get through those long 48-10 drop zone camps or matches where a pilot keeps hiding after his team is dead out of spite and stats preservation. But the restrictions on it need to be very stringent otherwise good teams would rarely get to play and be punished simply for being good.

As an example:

The winning team has a 24 mech kill lead or 8 out of 12 pilots on the losing team must be perma dead before a vote can be triggered. If a vote fails all pilots on the losing side are still expected to play it out.

Again it would have to be done carefully or not at all.




#10 G4LV4TR0N

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 11:01 AM

As I experienced both ends, I was always more into folding game when I was in 24-0 team than when I was in 0-24 one. But perhaps I don't care enough about planet control/leaderboards.

#11 justcallme A S H

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:56 PM

View PostG4LV4TR0N, on 19 June 2017 - 03:53 PM, said:

There should be added fold button in dropship mech select box. Could be pressed only once after losing mech and it would end game for player. He could spectate or leave. Other team would equally split all XP/Cbill rewards as for killing remaining mechs. Would save time for both teams in some of those boring 48-0 situations, that no side is enjoying.



I've played in a grand total of two 48-0 matches. They are beyond rare.

Next up, making a "forfeit" button for users who bring bad builds like a UAC20 Summoner you run? No... No forfeit button for play like that. If bad builds were not brought in the first place, there would be less of a need for this.

Address the problem, not a band-aid style fix (Which PGI will never get right anyway)

#12 LordNothing

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 01:23 AM

there is no excuse for quitting. i dont want it to be a sanctioned behavior.

#13 G4LV4TR0N

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 07:40 AM

View Postjustcallme A S H, on 20 June 2017 - 10:56 PM, said:



I've played in a grand total of two 48-0 matches. They are beyond rare.

Next up, making a "forfeit" button for users who bring bad builds like a UAC20 Summoner you run? No... No forfeit button for play like that. If bad builds were not brought in the first place, there would be less of a need for this.

Address the problem, not a band-aid style fix (Which PGI will never get right anyway)


Says guy who brings 5x Large Laser Battlemaster to Tourmaline Desert, gets killed by Summoner and then starts five discussions about it in five separate forum threads all same time.

Edited by G4LV4TR0N, 21 June 2017 - 07:42 AM.


#14 G4LV4TR0N

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 07:48 AM

View PostLordNothing, on 21 June 2017 - 01:23 AM, said:

there is no excuse for quitting. i dont want it to be a sanctioned behavior.


Face it, even top server players quit when they get bored, they just pretend to do something bad and run directly at enemy to die.

#15 justcallme A S H

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 04:48 PM

View PostG4LV4TR0N, on 21 June 2017 - 07:40 AM, said:


Says guy who brings 5x Large Laser Battlemaster to Tourmaline Desert, gets killed by Summoner and then starts five discussions about it in five separate forum threads all same time.


I've never run a 5LL Battlemaster.

Nice try.

#16 G4LV4TR0N

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 04:57 PM

Yes you did on Tourmaline Desert and you got killed by a Summoner. Don't lie.

#17 Deathlike

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 04:59 PM

View PostG4LV4TR0N, on 21 June 2017 - 04:57 PM, said:

Yes you did on Tourmaline Desert and you got killed by a Summoner. Don't lie.


Pics or it didn't happen.

#18 justcallme A S H

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 04:59 PM

No, I have not. Fact.
I run a 5LPL or a 6ERL BLR - Always have... As do most half decent players that can manage heat properly.

The only reason you want a fold button is so that when you bring your crappy builds and when the inevitable steamroll happens - You can bail on a match early.

That is not a solution to the problem which is players bringing junk builds and players refusing to work as a team.

Edited by justcallme A S H, 21 June 2017 - 05:00 PM.


#19 G4LV4TR0N

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 05:24 PM

Your Large Laser Battlemaster got killed by Summoner on Tourmaline Desert month or two ago and you are still crying. I would say "go find yourself another topic" but I know no matter the topic you will post exactly same story as before about "ugly bad Summoner".

Edited by G4LV4TR0N, 21 June 2017 - 05:25 PM.


#20 G4LV4TR0N

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 05:27 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 21 June 2017 - 04:59 PM, said:


Pics or it didn't happen.


I'm sorry, I'm not nerd like you.



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