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[Aggravated Assault Mech]

I have most mechs I'd ever be interested in playing, but the ones I'm most excited about new tech on are:

Ghillie- probably the single best candidate for stealth armor.

CP-11-P- stealth goose

STK-3FB- stealth boat

MAL-2P- Dual UAC20

Sleipnir- Dual LB20X or HGauss if it turns out alright.

Panther- snub nose

There are a lot of mechs stuck with STD engines that will just get a straight upgrade to LFE but I wouldn't say that's opening up any new doors, just optimizing them a bit.

Otherwise most of the mechs I really want to play but sort of suck- Highlanders, Stalkers- have icky low engine caps and lack slots, so you don't really have the ability to even take advantage of LFEs.

[Prototelis]

None, because I haven't seen the form this is going to take.

But I do have a few waiting in the bays and a big stack of cbills for funsies.

[Humpday]

Rhaegor, on 01 July 2017 - 04:45 PM, said:

Nothing. I play clan these days.

Bruh...why did you bother posting?

Edited by Humpday, 01 July 2017 - 09:47 PM.

[STEF_]

El Bandito, on 01 July 2017 - 05:40 PM, said:

Yes, but Id rather drive the Orion-IIC since LFE shares the same penalty as CXL. Not to mention CLB20X can be mounted with CXL. Can't say the same with IS LB20X.

yep, Onion becomes like the IIC, that is "enjoyable".

Deathlike, on 01 July 2017 - 05:45 PM, said:

That's a matter of LFE almost always being superior to STD engines (that's not a hard bar to climb). Then again, Clan XL is superior to the alternatives (IS XL, STD, LFE).

Yep!

At least, with new tech I could pilot mechs that.... I cannot even remember when it was the last time I took them for a ride

[Tarl Cabot]

MischiefSC, on 01 July 2017 - 05:46 PM, said:

Does LFE have CXL penalty?

Yes. No imagination w/PGI. isXL still dies to the loss of a side torso..

[Davegt27]

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Posted Today, 07:53 PM
I have most mechs I'd ever be interested in playing, but the ones I'm most excited about new tech on are:

Ghillie- probably the single best candidate for stealth armor.

CP-11-P- stealth goose

STK-3FB- stealth boat

MAL-2P- Dual UAC20

Sleipnir- Dual LB20X or HGauss if it turns out alright.

Panther- snub nose

There are a lot of mechs stuck with STD engines that will just get a straight upgrade to LFE but I wouldn't say that's opening up any new doors, just optimizing them a bit.

Otherwise most of the mechs I really want to play but sort of suck- Highlanders, Stalkers- have icky low engine caps and lack slots, so you don't really have the ability to even take advantage of LFEs.

I bought a Sleipnir and loaded heavy gauss and heavy PPC
ended up getting my butt kicked between the long recharge cycles
in between firings you can get stomped pretty quick

[Humpday]

Aggravated Assault Mech, on 01 July 2017 - 05:53 PM, said:

MAL-2P- Dual UAC20

Is that proper though? I bought the King C 000. And with ultras 20s its, stupid(i think i effed up and should have bought the 0000)
I keep taking it out to make sure i'm not dreaming, but yeah, its friggin good.

But again, this isn't fair....this is 4v4 and can be lop sided AF....12v12 i dunno if i'll even get to the fight. But it has a double tap 90 alpha...

[Aggravated Assault Mech]

Davegt27, on 01 July 2017 - 06:33 PM, said:

I bought a Sleipnir and loaded heavy gauss and heavy PPC
ended up getting my butt kicked between the long recharge cycles
in between firings you can get stomped pretty quick

Yeah, I tried it with both HGauss and LB20X.

Didn't do as well with HGauss, but if it's buffed it's interesting to me. Dual LB20X is a pretty sure bet though and I doubt it'll change before CW goes live.

[SirSoggyDog]

I'm thinking that the single biggest change coming in this patch will be the LFE, and I think most IS heavies, assaults, and mediums stand poise to get a few extra tons off of it.

In particular, I think that the Whammer stands poise to become quite a bit more powerful, and an even more ubiquitous mech than it already is. Twin UAC10s, hex ERMLS, and a sizable LFE is what I'm thinking of.


On a tangential note, RL20x4 Locust anyone? 140 damage at a drop of a hat at 140 kph sounds amusing indeed

[Humpday]

k +1 for the King Crab if the Annihilator sucks balls...not* likely not though
it'll be the same if not worse than the King Crab...which if it stay like this the king crap....is the shizzle!

its fun

Edited by Humpday, 01 July 2017 - 07:38 PM.

[Chados]

The Uziel. I got that. Annihilators too. Should be interesting.

[Humpday]

The only real major players are ERMlas, snubs and ultras for IS. The rest are too hot, too heavy.

[Humpday]

Oh that that that "Underdog" Ilya? Yeah....ultras, brought her back....again.

The cataphracts will see a resurgence after this.

[Cybercobra]

im going to need to buy more urbies. double UAC2, UAC20, Snub PPC's, light PPC's, all kinds of nonsence i can turn into builds.

[Aggravated Assault Mech]

Humpday, on 01 July 2017 - 07:56 PM, said:

Oh that that that "Underdog" Ilya? Yeah....ultras, brought her back....again.

The cataphracts will see a resurgence after this.

I was thinking about that, but I think that if they become actually good they'll just have their quirks toned back until they're floating at the balance point their hardpoints and hitboxes give them naturally- bad.

Basically everything has gone in favor of the Cataphract recently- which is pretty much how it has to be for it to overcome the hardpoint locations and barn door syndrome. The potential for the Cataphract to be good, like the Dragon, basically exists only when the stars align and their quirks and hardpoints align with general weapon balance and pub meta to overcome the terrible hitboxes and hardpoint locations. Take any of those things away and they tumble down into the crevasse of bad variants.

By comparison, even if the MAL-2P has its UAC jam chance quirks toned back, or UAC20 takes a ghost heat penalty, it's still totally adaptable to LB20X/AC20/UAC10/Gauss/HGauss etc. because its hitboxes are passable, it's hardpoints have good convergence, and it doesn't really rely upon too many quirks- it can really only be nerfed to mid tier, while the Cataphract can be nerfed to **** tier.

Not that I expect it, but there's more of an inherent risk to a mech like the Cataphract, making them "wait and see" sort of mechs.

[Tomo Sukesada]

Humpday, on 01 July 2017 - 07:56 PM, said:

Oh that that that "Underdog" Ilya? Yeah....ultras, brought her back....again.

The cataphracts will see a resurgence after this.

What will you run on your Ilya?

[Angel of Annihilation]

So far:

CP-11-P - Been wanting it for a while but couldn't really find a build I liked so I have refrained from buying it but now that LFE's are a thing, I have come up with some great builds for it on PTS.

BNC-3S - Pretty much for the same reason as the CP-11-P. Didn't really see a build I liked until LFEs came along.

QKD-4H - Sold off all my QDs a long time ago when PGI nerfed JJs into the dirt. However they have changed quite a bit since then including the rescale that made them smaller. With the new tech, well I tested a few builds that made me thinking owning one again might be a good thing.

Other than that, I got pretty much every mech I want that is currently available for C-bills.

[Humpday]

Aggravated Assault Mech, on 01 July 2017 - 08:23 PM, said:

I was thinking about that, but I think that if they become actually good they'll just have their quirks toned back until they're floating at the balance point their hardpoints and hitboxes give them naturally- bad.

ugh this game....so much, "OMG this is awesome!!!", two months later...nerf..."well crap, last time i go on the forums(said no mechwarrior ever)...

Tomo Sukesada, on 01 July 2017 - 09:18 PM, said:

What will you run on your Ilya?

So far dual uac10s and 3 ermeds.
I used to run it trip, lbx10's, but the cooldown is gone now, so, until now its been sitting in the garage.

[Humpday]

Cybercobra, on 01 July 2017 - 08:22 PM, said:

im going to need to buy more urbies. double UAC2, UAC20, Snub PPC's, light PPC's, all kinds of nonsence i can turn into builds.

So my 4 man, got walked by an indestructible Urbie last night. I dropped 3 of the other team and it was me and this...griffin pilot that....well...anyway i was already ct crit by the time i got to the urbie and i blew off his right arm..then the bugger took my core to red, and seeing as how i had the griffin there i was like, eff this i'm out!

Nope....urbie managed ot drop me from the back(heh heh).

But heres the thing, the urbie only had 3 small pulse left....I dunno how he took down both me and a griffin and scored +700dmg with 3 kills!

I was like...hmmm ok...i guess, it was an honor to lose to you!?

[LordNothing]

as ive determined from running the pts, i have way too many ******* mechs. mechs for every combination of mrm, lppc and hmg. ive got mechs that can boat every new system, ive got mechs that can run stealth (not that its worth it), ive got mechs that can be rl trolls.

what i dont have are cbills to buy new weapons systems. and i certainly aint earning any on the pts.

Edited by LordNothing, 01 July 2017 - 10:25 PM.