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[justcallme A S H]

Clan has had nerfs?

Clan has more range now post Skill Tree than before. That is not a nerf, it is a huge, huge buff.


Active player base on Clan is not thin, how can it be? This is evident by the fact IS for the most part is almost insta drops ALL the time. Except the past week, IS is a little overloaded for a change. And Clan wait time is usually 5mins+ for a lobby almost any cycle...

What you claim and what is actually happening = not same.

TWIAFU, on 10 July 2017 - 12:36 PM, said:

After seeing 7 out of the 12 IS PUGs not even hit a Match Score of 100 and less then 100 damage per Mech, not sure wtf these people are doing in CW.

They did, however, blame PGI, MM, and Clans for them derping and playing Qp with respawn peek a boo.

It is always "someone else's fault" from PUGLords.

[A Shoddy Rental Mech]

SmokeGuar, on 10 July 2017 - 04:08 PM, said:

Few points from loyalist perspective.

First and biggest thing is PGI continued shafting of Clan loyalist. In order to drive population ( mercs ) to IS side, Clan side has faced continues nerfs. Lots of mechs have turned from fun or at least useable to dump trucks.

Welcome to 2016 for the I.S. loyalist

The Nerf Bat, on 19 October 2016 - 11:57 PM, said:

Any I.S. mech that is viable for faction warfare must be whacked by The Nerf Bat.
Top tier I.S. mechs have already been whacked by The Nerf Bat including the Blackjack, Catapult, Warhammer, Maurader, Battlemaster, and Black Knight.
The Feb 20 patch was when the the Nerf Hammer hit.
PATCH NOTES - 1.4.53 - 16-FEB-2016
https://mwomercs.com...-1453-16feb2016
"All remaining negative/detrimental Weapon Quirks on Clan 'Mechs have been removed. A small amount of negative Armor and Turn Quirks remain for certain variants.
• All Inner Sphere Energy Range Quirks are now set at 10% (if present)."
In that patch they whacked the Blackjack with the nerf bat. On top of that the found a buff bat to hit the clan targeting computers. Just look at all the green(buffs) on the PDF of all Clan Quirk changes here .
Anything that was competitive was whacked. Patch after patch after patch.
April
Black Knight gets whacked
http://mwomercs.com/...rk%20Values.pdf
June
Black Knight gets whacked again
http://static.mwomer...006-21-2016.pdf
Resize I.S. mechs get big
July
Blackjack Catapult Warhammer Maurader Battlemaster
http://static.mwomer...rk%20Values.pdf
whack whack whack whack whack
Now we move onto the 2nd tier.
• Enforcer ENF-5P: UAC Jam Chance increased to -20% (from -30%).
• JagerMech JM6-DD: UAC Jam Chance increased to -20% (from -30%).

Battlemaster 2c and Grasshopper 5p recently received The Nerf Bat

This don't even mention the release of Night Gyr or the broke as fudge O.P. Quad UAC10 Kodiak.(yes, PGI fixed it eventually)

"Clan mechs perform 8% better than I.S. mechs"
"Balance is better than it's ever been"

What was the performance disparity in 2016 while all these I.S. nerfs were happening?

There's a reason why most I.S. loyalist either went merc or flat out quit.

[Dermot Von Jankmon]

The Nerf Bat, on 11 July 2017 - 09:50 AM, said:

"Clan mechs perform 8% better than I.S. mechs"
"Balance is better than it's ever been"

FP is supposed to a "Role Play" like thing. For Lore junkies. Clans are supposed to be more powerful than IS, that said. I've seen IS stomp clans, recently even.

[Nimnul]

If you've read Lore. You must know what inner wars are quite common.

[Nimnul]

This topic is more relevant now than ever. There are no fights. Everyone is sitting for the clans.

[justcallme A S H]

A Merc on Clan side complaining about Clan side stacking.

Failed logic right there.

[Nimnul]

Two weeks for the sphere before this day. Who have failed logic here ?

Edited by Nimnul, 16 September 2017 - 12:23 PM.

[FallingAce]

Nimnul, on 16 September 2017 - 12:22 PM, said:

Two weeks for the sphere before this day. Who have failed logic here ?

So you're saying you went from the side with the insta-drops to the side with the long wait times. And now you are complaining.
You seem to have made a bad choice.

Of all the things wrong with faction warfare, wait times for clan mercs isn't one of them. It's a self-inflicted wound.

Edited by FallingAce, 16 September 2017 - 01:14 PM.

[Nimnul]

I want to play. And i do not have to be only in the sphere. In addition, I do not want to lose, because the weapons of the clans OP.

Edited by Nimnul, 16 September 2017 - 01:30 PM.

[naterist]

**** that noise, fix the way mercenary contracts work before asking for an internal battlesystem.

[B0oN]

TWIAFU, on 05 July 2017 - 03:16 AM, said:

Hehe.

I know once the Linebacker games start, we let them ghost drop into boredom.

Then laugh at them for complaining about ghost drops.

LOL

Retorts the side with 2 of the most broken mechs available ?
Eh, does Commando and Assassin ring any bells (if there is anything to ring at all )?

I always knew that IS was predominantly weaksauce, but that is confirming a new high .

[Davegt27]

this thread is from July
might be a good idea to start a new one

[justcallme A S H]

Nimnul, on 16 September 2017 - 01:23 PM, said:

I want to play. And i do not have to be only in the sphere. In addition, I do not want to lose, because the weapons of the clans OP.

If you need Clan weapons to win, you need to learn how to play MWO.

Nothing wrong with IS at all, the real issue is IS XL.

[Commander A9]

What you're suggesting is a reenabling of the attack mechanics from Phase 1 and 2...which will never happen...because by rolling back to the old format, PGI will have effectively admitted that they were wrong.

[Nimnul]

justcallme A S H, on 16 September 2017 - 05:30 PM, said:

If you need Clan weapons to win, you need to learn how to play MWO.

I look you're smart. Only I do not remember you in FP. For the clans, I have an alpha 78 on a 65 tonne mech. In the sphere I have 50 alpha on 70+ tone mech (Light Engine). Clans have 2 times the range at an midle distance. We win for the sphere, but not a difficult opponent, who knows the advantage of distance. If you played in FP, you would know who I am and my unit. Before you argue with me, stop using LRM...

Edited by Nimnul, 17 September 2017 - 02:58 AM.

[Pat Kell]

Nimnul, on 17 September 2017 - 02:49 AM, said:

I look you're smart. Only I do not remember you in FP. For the clans, I have an alpha 78 on a 65 tonne mech. In the sphere I have 50 alpha on 70+ tone mech. Clans have 2 times the range at an midle distance. Before you argue with me, stop using LRM...

Oh this is gonna be good....

[Daidachi]

Pat Kell, on 17 September 2017 - 02:52 AM, said:

Oh this is gonna be good....

/popcorn

[TWIAFU]

Nimnul, on 16 September 2017 - 01:23 PM, said:

I want to play. And i do not have to be only in the sphere. In addition, I do not want to lose, because the weapons of the clans OP.

So, you want your easier button that the Clans provide and IS is to hard. Got it.

You can sit in queue waiting to drop then. Maybe you will get one after 10 minutes, maybe it will be dry.

Either way, enjoy waiting.

B0oN, on 16 September 2017 - 03:24 PM, said:

Retorts the side with 2 of the most broken mechs available ?
Eh, does Commando and Assassin ring any bells (if there is anything to ring at all )?

I always knew that IS was predominantly weaksauce, but that is confirming a new high .

Most broken? How's that Myst Lynx your driving?

[justcallme A S H]

Nimnul, on 17 September 2017 - 02:49 AM, said:

I look you're smart. Only I do not remember you in FP. For the clans, I have an alpha 78 on a 65 tonne mech. In the sphere I have 50 alpha on 70+ tone mech (Light Engine). Clans have 2 times the range at an midle distance. We win for the sphere, but not a difficult opponent, who knows the advantage of distance. If you played in FP, you would know who I am and my unit. Before you argue with me, stop using LRM...

Indeed I am very smart. But it seems you are not if you don't remember me, after the repeated beatdowns I've given your teams, perhaps you are not so smart.

Part of the merry of bunch of average players that have to hide in a dropzone when facing decent 12mans (IE: Mine).

I can play IS exceptionally well, I always have. I have no issue in IS mechs.

For a "LRM player", my stats are pretty good compared to yours? I win more, I kill more...



FYI - I have not used a LRM mech for at least 4 months. And Clans do not have 2x the range at middle distance. I suggest you log into MWO, visit the mechlab and improve your builds if you can't win.

If you want I can provide you with a few builds that will help you become better, like me.

Pat Kell, on 17 September 2017 - 02:52 AM, said:

Oh this is gonna be good....

Indeed it's gonna GIT GUD alright.

Edited by justcallme A S H, 17 September 2017 - 04:52 AM.

[Nimnul]

justcallme A S H, on 17 September 2017 - 04:52 AM, said:

my stats are pretty good compared to yours? I win more, I kill more...

You win more? Our primetime is the most difficult. We play with those you do not even know. If you were playing in our time you would not have won even once. I don't remember you because you pug. I never see yours victories. When you win IREX or EVIL, I'll take my words back. OK, now take your best game on mid range for IS. my here:

https://imgur.com/a/qjpVh

Edited by Nimnul, 17 September 2017 - 06:17 AM.