Andi Nagasia, on 07 July 2017 - 08:14 PM, said:
well because the Rakshasa isnt an OmniMech, so theirs that,
its based off the Mad Cat OmniMech, it isnt an OmniMech,
for instance lets look at the
Sunder 90Ton IS OmniMech,
it stats out with a 360XL Engine Giving it 35.5Free Tons(Assuming Max Armor)
you move down to a LFE360, you lose 8.5Tons(27Free Tons), but you gain Extra Survivability,
would this Change(XL to LFE or XL to STD) be fore everyone, No, but it could offer some Flexibility to OmniMechs,
in this case this Change would benefit IS OmniMechs Mostly, but Clan still has the Choice,
I included the Rakshasa because the OP did; I was poor when those were coming out, and never picked up the 'mech readouts. Thus, my knowledge of specific canon Battlemech models is far from encyclopedic. Regardless, the assertion stands on its own merit despite the example. If we allow "omnihardpoints" that can match any weapon, Omnimechs become superior to any similar Battlemech, which is bad for MWO. Not only are their loadouts superior, but adoption of Omnimechs gives players more flexibility than Battlemech pilots, simply because their one chassis can do anything and the Battlemech is limited to its designed hardpoints.
It bears mentioning, however, that your counter-example did not deal with this issue in the slightest. You've conflated one topic with the other - hopefully through carelessness - but this is a very bad misstep when making an argument. Similarly, your repeated and increasingly strident requests for contrary evidence far in advance of anything you've provided are also unacceptable tactics. You are not permitted to assume you're correct until someone else proves you wrong, nor to demand much stronger proof for objections than you yourself provided for the claim. This isn't my first rodeo - if I let you do this, you'll simply make some assertion that my example is wrong or inconclusive, then require even stronger proof that
you're wrong in order to accept the example. In other words, you'll continue to move the goal posts and beg the question until an unattainable level of "proof" is required - you may not have thought it through, but it's what you've already been doing. It's... not going to happen.
In any case, these changes are expected to be beneficial, or neither you nor the Op would be asking for them. If, as the OP suggests, these changes should be applied to IS omnimechs, there is no possible case where this does not worsen balance, because Is Omnis would have an ability that Clan Omnis lack - and both Battlemechs and Omnimechs share the same tech bases for their factions.
Now, if you are, as you now seem to suggest, talking about allowing engine type changes for
either tech base, I have no opinion other than to point out that engine type balancing should probably be done first - this is the first time you've mentioned that in our exchange, however, even though you've endorsed "
what is Proposed in the Topic OP," - and I've been very clear that this is my point of contention.
Edited by Void Angel, 08 July 2017 - 08:46 AM.
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