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[Commander A9]

Haven't seen this...ever...

Inner Sphere have lately been not only winning, but getting ghost drops...

...where the hell did all the Clans go? Is Comp Play really sucking that many people in?

Edited by Commander A9, 11 July 2017 - 07:06 AM.

[LordLeto]

New tech is in bound. People are switching to try the new shines creating a pop imbalance.

[Jeff on a Buffalo]

You will get ghost drops based on the time of day (if Euro or NA playing time) and where the major FW playing merc units are currently in. I believe the FW merc units tend to switch back and forth between IS and Clan based on where the $ is and where they can find interesting matches. I could be wrong in this though

[mp00]

Additionally many with limited time are concentrating on the Shoot'N'Loot event for reward goodies.

On a most basic time/effort level 30 loot bags = 30 quick play/scout drops every 3 days
For many this would suck up all there free playing time.

[Marquis De Lafayette]

I might be tough to get drops as IS for a little while. You really have a perfect storm right now..

1. It's summer in the northern hemisphere...so lower population under any circumstances.....
2. PGI is running a long event that is by far best done in QP
3. Many big, active Merc units (Apparently) have gone IS....is it random chance? prepositioning for tech drop? Bandwagon jumping to get more planets?? Some combo of the above?
4. The IS may well have more, active loyalist units under any circumstances. So, if the Mercs mostly jump there it creates a real logjam. We are pretty active, but lately we have been fielding a 6-7 man at best a few times a week and really it's more often like 4 or less of us filling in a drop with Merc friends or just pugging. I mean there might be a couple of Clan loyalists that field a 10 man these days, but I don't know who regularly is doing that on the Clan loyalist side. We may well go Merc next season...just for all the reasons people generally have gone Merc. PGI really needs to fix the loyalist situation.

[Jugger Grimrod]

Faction Warfare matches are determined by where the Mercs are at any given moment - Loyalists don't go anywhere. If there are only 2 Buckets, and 80% of the population jumps into just one of them, who is to blame? The Mercs? No. The reason that gave the Mercs to chase the squirrel? Yes.

Edited by Jugger Grimrod, 11 July 2017 - 02:06 PM.

[Jeff on a Buffalo]

Too bad there are several holes in the bucket and all the little mechs are leaking out making a bit of a mess. Someone will have to find some duct tape to fix that....

[FallingAce]

Jeff on a Buffalo, on 11 July 2017 - 02:07 PM, said:

Too bad there are several holes in the bucket and all the little mechs are leaking out making a bit of a mess. Someone will have to find some duct tape to fix that....

Every time PGI fixes something 2 more holes appear.

[Serial Number]

We just need more QP maps/modes in CW to drive more CW players away. This will surely fix the ghost drops problem. Pretty funny half of those I used to play CW with, stopped playing since December tho.

Edited by Serial Number, 11 July 2017 - 04:40 PM.

[Chagatay]

KFC (damn it now I am hungry )

Edited by Chagatay, 11 July 2017 - 06:28 PM.

[Rustyhammer]

Ghost drops? There are no ghost drops in Oceanic!

According to the war log (and personal experience):
Last Sunday - no drops at all between 6:30PM - 9PM
Monday-Tuesday - not a single FP drop since 4:30PM till at least 9PM (I logged of after 9PM, so no idea if there were any drops later)

I really hope that Oceanic FP population is just decimated by the ongoing event and will recover after the event is over. On the other hand, at the same time I'm experiencing the significant increase in QP search time, so I'm kinda sad....

Edited by Rustyhammer, 11 July 2017 - 09:18 PM.

[vonJerg]

Many brave warriors have fallen on Tukayyid, earning their place in The Remembrance.

But it's just a minor setback, I assure you. Even as we speak our touman grows stronger. The clouds are gathering, storm is brewing.

[The Basilisk]

As every effin year, the same effin time, the same is happening and the same "ermagerd is XYZ dieing???" questions are voiced.....

THERE ARE HOLIDAYS IN GERMANY (and other parts of Europe) AND THE QP EVENTS FOR FREE STUFF IS RUNNING.

(Well it is the 2nd largest part of the MWO community so....)

One half of the primetime guys and girls are lazing at some beach in the sun and the other half is playing to get some free stuff.
Nobody is playing FP atm.

vonJerg, on 12 July 2017 - 12:31 AM, said:

Many brave warriors have fallen on Tukayyid, earning their place in The Remembrance.

But it's just a minor setback, I assure you. Even as we speak our touman grows stronger. The clouds are gathering, storm is brewing.

Bold words from someone whos Clan will be dead from next thuesday on...

Victor 1 : SJ 0
R.I.P. Smoke Jaguars

Edited by The Basilisk, 12 July 2017 - 12:39 AM.

[naterist]

Whats the point? Were eta 7 days till a map reset.

[TWIAFU]

Commander A9, on 11 July 2017 - 07:06 AM, said:

Haven't seen this...ever...

Inner Sphere have lately been not only winning, but getting ghost drops...

...where the hell did all the Clans go? Is Comp Play really sucking that many people in?

Well, from what I have read, in less then a week, IS get a whole lot of new toys, more then the Clans. I guess the Clans want to play with the new IS toys, so they are jumping ship. And if Civil War means Civil War, maybe they are not only jumping ship for new toys, might be wanting to play IS vs IS.

This is not rocket nor any form of science, just history repeating itself and human nature in action.

Nobody with more brain cells, active cells, then your common trumptard can see this was going to happen.

[SmokeGuar]

Question to Balance Overlord, now that mercs have migrated to IS side, how long will it take re-balance game? It is my understanding that basis for balance is partly ( or largly ) player base. Now that more exp players have gone to IS, usability of some Clan mechs can be returned, KDK for example.

/watching snowballs melt in hell while waiting

[Admiral-Dan]

LordLeto, on 11 July 2017 - 07:57 AM, said:

New tech is in bound. People are switching to try the new shines creating a pop imbalance.

Most likely this.

[Lovas]

If you look at the merc payouts it doesn't appear to be that every merc group is going IS. If anything it is showing that more are clan. The good payouts are 40% Liao (much higher than normal), 30% Marik (higher than normal because BCMC is getting 40% for Marik so it was higher just a couple days ago), 20% FRR (higher than normal), and Smoke Jag sitting at 10% (normal). All other payouts are negative. Other explanations could be loyalist units are purging large amounts of players, clan players just not showing up, summertime stuff, and of course the loot bag event.

I got 2 drops in last night, then 2 ghost drops - so I logged out.

I've never liked the way PGI set the population %. I wish they did the % based on where the merc groups were, or not count total population but only those who have dropped in CW in the last 30 days - would make it easier to pick a side and get drops.

Edited by Lovas, 12 July 2017 - 07:21 AM.

[r4zen]

Lovas, on 12 July 2017 - 07:15 AM, said:

I've never liked the way PGI set the population %. I wish they did the % based on where the merc groups were, or not count total population but only those who have dropped in CW in the last 30 days - would make it easier to pick a side and get drops.

I think this was brought up at one of the last FP roundtables. And of course not implemented. Maybe we'll get it Soon™.

[Marquis De Lafayette]

Lovas, on 12 July 2017 - 07:15 AM, said:

If you look at the merc payouts it doesn't appear to be that every merc group is going IS. If anything it is showing that more are clan. The good payouts are 40% Liao (much higher than normal), 30% Marik (higher than normal because BCMC is getting 40% for Marik so it was higher just a couple days ago), 20% FRR (higher than normal), and Smoke Jag sitting at 10% (normal). All other payouts are negative. Other explanations could be loyalist units are purging large amounts of players, clan players just not showing up, summertime stuff, and of course the loot bag event.

I got 2 drops in last night, then 2 ghost drops - so I logged out.

I've never liked the way PGI set the population %. I wish they did the % based on where the merc groups were, or not count total population but only those who have dropped in CW in the last 30 days - would make it easier to pick a side and get drops.

We purge unit members who are have haven't logged in at all for 4 months (they are generally welcome back if they return to the game ) just to keep recruitment costs down. It removes the inactive player from the unit, but it doesn't break loyalty for them....so the faction #'s and therefore Merc contract bonuses are unaffected.

Those Merc contract numbers are roughly the same as in the Tuk event....when every Merc was CSJ, Marik or Liao. I think that there is such a huge underlying in-active loyalist player base that the remaining active Merc units can all pile into a couple of factions without moving the needle much these days as far as bonuses go. Thus, I don't think the bonuses show where the active Merc population is....it's the ghost drops and the war log that show where the active Mercs are these days

Edited by Marquis De Lafayette, 12 July 2017 - 08:06 AM.