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[Gas Guzzler]

Reno Blade, on 15 July 2017 - 12:59 AM, said:

Very happy with the new groupings, especially the Gauss + PPC was long overdue and often enough asked by the players

Yeah, players that they shouldn't be listening too.

[Reno Blade]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 July 2017 - 12:55 AM, said:

Seconded. Please reconsider. I like having options

Gas Guzzler, on 15 July 2017 - 01:00 AM, said:

Yeah, players that they shouldn't be listening too.

Thats your opinion. everyone has their own, hopefully...

And you have a choice. A few even.
Fire 0.5s later than the other weapons,
Same as on 3PPC build, fire them 2+1 without penalty or fire them 3 together for a crippling hit and heat penalty.

[StormDll]

Gas Guzzler, on 14 July 2017 - 11:28 PM, said:

ATMs still do 3 damage 120-270, so with those buffs sounds like they got a little better.

ATM 3 6 dmg
ATM 6 12 dmg
ATM 9 18 dmg
ATM 12 24 dmg

[Sucy Manbavaran]

StormDll, on 15 July 2017 - 01:07 AM, said:

ATM 3 6 dmg
ATM 6 12 dmg
ATM 9 18 dmg
ATM 12 24 dmg

So they nerf ATM even if 1 AMS rekt every missiles without any problems ? ...

[Gas Guzzler]

Reno Blade, on 15 July 2017 - 01:03 AM, said:

Thats your opinion. everyone has their own, hopefully...

And you have a choice. A few even.
Fire 0.5s later than the other weapons,
Same as on 3PPC build, fire them 2+1 without penalty or fire them 3 together for a crippling hit and heat penalty.

I like my laser vomit or PPC/dakka or dakka builds or gauss laser vomit builds more than that, thanks. I score better with them than the current PPC-Gauss anyway (mainly the laser vomit and ppc/dakka builds that is) so it is really not gonna hurt my performance, but I am very irritated we are losing a viable loadout option for very weak reasons.

[meteorol]

Reno Blade, on 15 July 2017 - 01:03 AM, said:

Thats your opinion. everyone has their own, hopefully...

And you have a choice. A few even.
Fire 0.5s later than the other weapons,
Same as on 3PPC build, fire them 2+1 without penalty or fire them 3 together for a crippling hit and heat penalty.

Or just use laservomit/gaussvomit instead.

Which is what like 9 of 10 gauss/ppc users will do. It's not like this is a wild guess in a situation we haven't seen before.
We know how this community reacts to harsh nerfs to the gauss/ppc combo. They go for all laservomit/gaussvomit. We have already seen it happening, and we will see it happen again.

Laservomit all day. It will take the a bit of time for the slowpokes to catch up (as usual) and then the forum will be flooded with people crying about the game being "nothing but laservomit".

[Gas Guzzler]

StormDll, on 15 July 2017 - 01:07 AM, said:

ATM 3 6 dmg
ATM 6 12 dmg
ATM 9 18 dmg
ATM 12 24 dmg

https://mwomercs.com...ll-off-weapons/

ggclose

[AngrySpartan]

I sense a huge pile of poo over all the feedback provided during PTS. PGI, you are such...PGI.

[Alienized]

fix your matchmaker and expecially fix your PSR.
the games are getting worse.

and also, fix polar highlands and put something in the middle. most awkward map you ever did.

Edited by Alienized, 15 July 2017 - 01:21 AM.

[Gas Guzzler]

meteorol, on 15 July 2017 - 01:14 AM, said:

Laservomit all day. It will take the a bit of time for the slowpokes to catch up (as usual) and then the forum will be flooded with people crying about the game being "nothing but laservomit".

I'll probably get banned from the forums temporarily when I start seeing this in posts from people advocating this change right now, because I don't think I will be able to hold back.

[No One Lives Forever]

Alienized, on 15 July 2017 - 01:20 AM, said:

fix your matchmaker and expecially fix your PSR.
the games are getting worse.

and also, fix polar highlands and put something in the middle. most awkward map you ever did.

Matches are worse cause there are much less ppl playing. They had to "loosen up" the Matchmaker to reduce wait times.
Agree on polar. Too much walking on that map, too little cover, too bland.

[Alienized]

No One Lives Forever, on 15 July 2017 - 01:35 AM, said:

Matches are worse cause there are much less ppl playing. They had to "loosen up" the Matchmaker to reduce wait times.
Agree on polar. Too much walking on that map, too little cover, too bland.

there arent less people playing. just the wrong people because the better players seem to be sick and tired of pug queue and what happens there. im so tired of losing constantly despite doing top dmg of everything at many times.

frustration really kicks in hard. the only relief is group queue with some buds (yes, i really have some) but other than that?
you really want to play with ppl that say *i got my matchscore, case closed. PGI encourages it by their tournaments so why not*
thats what i got told in a battle with zero teamplay.


it has nothing to do with weapons, mechs or maps.
it has everything to do with how this PSR is worth nothing and complete fail and how it affects matchmaking to the worst.
i am in no way surprised MWO would lose players if we wouldnt love mechs so much.
but damn it gets so bad really fast.

[Marius Evander]

oh noes ppfld got nurfd laservomit is gonna be op ...... errr they are nerfing laser vomit aswell, have a think and maybe you will work out what the new meta is, neither of those.

[Arkhangel]

Gas Guzzler, on 15 July 2017 - 01:00 AM, said:

Yeah, players that they shouldn't be listening too.

because, you know, listening to a vocal minority (people like you) instead of the Majority (who were the ones who asked for this) helps so much.

[tee5]

Arkhangel, on 15 July 2017 - 12:55 AM, said:

not remotely as pathetic as your consistent whining about things.

every mech is getting the updated hardpoints eventually, they're just not going to force through stuff that effects game performance and hard drive size for everyone all at once, and takes people off more important things, like, say, you know, NEW MAPS they're currently working on?

You want to control change, go get hired by PGI. They need the help. They don't need the constant badgering by lazy morons.

They make a big hype about the new timeline/new weapons and then only 7% of the mechs can get the visuals of the new weapons. That's dissapointing.
Its like introducing a new book on the USA-bookmarket but you can only buy it in New York.

I get hired by PGI and then Russ tells me that I shall work on new maps for MW5-Mercenaries! lol

[DGTLDaemon]

meteorol, on 15 July 2017 - 01:14 AM, said:

Laservomit all day. It will take the a bit of time for the slowpokes to catch up (as usual) and then the forum will be flooded with people crying about the game being "nothing but laservomit".

Laser vomit and PPFLD sit in slightly different niches. Laser vomit is the king of mid-range poke. Gauss and PPC are sniping weapons. The problem with combined goose-pepsi builds was that they were able to produce pinpoint alphas comparable to those of laser vomit builds with zero duration at sniping ranges. Now that this problem has been addressed, things will go back to normal: Gauss and PPC builds will snipe, laser vomit and dakka will dominate mid-range engagements, and SRM/LBX brawlers will tear sh*t up at close range.

[C E Dwyer]

I get the thought process behind the linking of Gauss and PPC's to some degree it is, a powerful combo, far and away the best.

But isn't the reason it seems so because it's the better players than can consistently, get that combo to work, because their hit to shot ratio is higher.

Where less good players struggle to get a hit ratio of over 50% and so tend not to use it.

I also don't think it's going to work either.

The good players will compensate, because they have the skills to time that extra half a second delay needed.

All this is going to do is force those edge players that are not so good, to either stop using the combination, or use legal third party software to compensate.

As you've effectively added anotherr charge up mechanic, why not get rid of the first one and add another heat point to Gauss.

Oh lol nope nope carry on

It's yet another nerf to pop tarts...

Edited by Cathy, 15 July 2017 - 01:54 AM.

[Nimnul]

cool

[Kaptain]

I love how POed some people are getting about guass/PPC.

I do hope they get NGR mobility back after this though. I feel for them there.

[Arkhangel]

Alienized, on 15 July 2017 - 01:42 AM, said:

there arent less people playing. just the wrong people because the better players seem to be sick and tired of pug queue and what happens there. im so tired of losing constantly despite doing top dmg of everything at many times.

frustration really kicks in hard. the only relief is group queue with some buds (yes, i really have some) but other than that?
you really want to play with ppl that say *i got my matchscore, case closed. PGI encourages it by their tournaments so why not*
thats what i got told in a battle with zero teamplay.


it has nothing to do with weapons, mechs or maps.
it has everything to do with how this PSR is worth nothing and complete fail and how it affects matchmaking to the worst.
i am in no way surprised MWO would lose players if we wouldnt love mechs so much.
but damn it gets so bad really fast.

it doesn't help that there's a fair-sized amount of bittervet elitists on the other side of the spectrum who treat newbies or lower-tiered players like **** too.

someone using the Arguement "You don't know what the hell you're talking about because you're tier X" gets old fast, especially given the fact the only way someone really stays Tier 1 is either being too much of a ***** to drop solo and getting carried, or they just got there and stopped playing altogether, which actually means in both cases, they're really LESS qualified to know better than people in lower tiers.

Just because you're a good pilot doesn't give you the right to piss all over other pilots. Prove your skill with your mech, Not your mouth.