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[Suko]

Alan Hicks, on 19 July 2017 - 09:15 AM, said:

I just don´t like any gamer that uses gg, gl hf or o7 around here. Too common and lame. Just like any ****** that believes in luck or Santa Claus.

Shows laziness, irreverence and the average mindset of most internet trolls.

Try something different for once in your life, typing a few words wont make you a worse player.

This is my stance. I'm not offended by "GG". I don't really care. To me it's just something a lazy person does in an attempt to make themselves feel magnanimous.

"I feel better about myself because I tried to make others feel better w/ 2 keystrokes" *puts on superhero cape*

[davoodoo]

Gasboy, on 19 July 2017 - 09:18 AM, said:

So how is it insulting then?

If GG is the same thing, then how can it be an insult? Sure, if someone says GGCLOSELOL, that's obviously meant to be insulting. But GG by itself?

Because theres no such tradition outside of official leagues and no one to enforce it...
Theres no coach to say "ok kids now shake hands"

Edited by davoodoo, 19 July 2017 - 09:23 AM.

[Suko]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 July 2017 - 09:20 AM, said:

assuming laziness on others is a sure sign of it in yourself.

(more fortune cookie wisdom available on demand)

And ignoring the input from other's on how offensive you are is a sure sign that your a self-centered (potential) sociopath. Two-way street with that whole "Empathy" thing. I find it funny how you can (ninja) insult others for being "too" empathetic, without seeing yourself as the other side of that same coin.

Edited by Suko, 19 July 2017 - 09:26 AM.

[Mystere]

Gasboy, on 19 July 2017 - 08:17 AM, said:

The fact that you say "enemy" over "opposing team" shows just how srs bsns you consider the game.

I wouldn't go that far, especially given I RP many of my drops.

[Toothless]

My take on it is that Im almost 31, what someone types in my fantasy space robot game after another round of arena shooter is extremely inconsequential.

[Yellonet]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 July 2017 - 09:20 AM, said:

It's not this game or forum (trust me, as much as I have a beef with a certain person on here.... compared to the thought policing they do on the HBS Battletech forum? Sheesh)..... but a product of society.

But people don't want to look inward... it's so much easier to look outward and say that all the hurt, pain, etc is someone else's fault.. rather than accepting that a lot of our hardships, emotional physical and otherwise are self inflicted.

Always amusing that those claiming to be the most enlightened are always the least tolerant of other perspectives and the first to impute bad motives on everyone.

It's like the feminist who becomes offended because I hold a door open. Was my gesture condescending and implying she was a lesser person, unable to handle the weight of the big heavy door, so I as a strong manly man had to do it for here? Or was I simply being polite... because if I see a guy coming to the door, I would hold it open for them, too?

Well, according the our friends in here, apparently the correct thing to do would be to consider that the lady might be a feminist and so not hold the door, and instead let it close in her face (oh dang, I just used a sexual identifier...what if she doesn't identify as a she? Oh hell! Offense!!!!) ... and since we don't want to discriminate, I wouldn't hold it open for anyone else either, be it an elderly or disabled person, a person holding a child or bags in their arms.

I should be considerate of them and assume they can open the door themselves, and as such, essentially ignore them, so as not to damage their self esteem.


assuming laziness on others is a sure sign of it in yourself.

(more fortune cookie wisdom available on demand)

Your examples isn't the same thing and you know it. First, gestures or greetings face to face are very different than just seeing text in a chat, second, GG is hardly as well established as holding a door open.

I think you are revealing more about yourself than what you seem to think that others reveal of themselves in this thread.

[Mochyn Pupur]

"GG" after a stomp is a pure insult - often due to poor (if any match making cohesion) or where map choice has fallen to the benefit of one side over the other (short range brawlers v half a team of lrm boats on Polar Highlands with a semi-decent spotter). Going down 12 - 0 12 - 3 ish, simply is not a good game - that infers both sides had a reasonable chance to win or reasonable chance to inflict sound damage on the other team.

TYFTG (thank you for the game), o7 or other form is far batter when viewed on the stomped side. If you want to say "gg", keep it in Team Channel - that's what it's there for.

I have a sound series of come backs, insults and put downs for anyone simply popping up "gg" and to be honest, really mean them as well

Acknowledge a match - yes - appear to gloat (or actually gloat because anyone with a modicum of empathy knows what it's like when it all goes south and understands the difference) - then no. Use common sense if at all possible and use a neutral comment if you really have to, if in doubt, say nothing.

[Bishop Steiner]

Suko, on 19 July 2017 - 09:25 AM, said:

And ignoring the input from other's on how offensive you are is a sure sign that your a self-centered (potential) sociopath. Two-way street with that whole "Empathy" thing. I find it funny how you can (ninja) insult others for being "too" empathetic, without seeing yourself as the other side of that same coin.

*nods sagaciously*

Tell me more, tell me more......

ZacharyJ, on 19 July 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

My take on it is that Im almost 31, what someone types in my fantasy space robot game after another round of arena shooter is extremely inconsequential.

dis guy getz it.

I'd give you a *this guy wins the internet* cookie for distilling the true fundamental point flying over certain people's heads....., but that would be very insensitive of me, since you may have gluten allergies or diabetes, or I may be implying you are incapable of making/procuring a cookie on your own (or even assuming you like cookies... you might be a savory snack sort of person). At least according to our empathetic friends present.

This may seem a little extreme, but I am only tying to be empathetic and consider every possible way my actions may be interpreted and the potential cultural ramifications and repercussions thereof.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 19 July 2017 - 09:34 AM.

[Mystere]

AssaultPig, on 19 July 2017 - 08:17 AM, said:

We understand for example that we're meant to be insulted by the last paragraph.

Actually, "insult" is not what first entered my mind. It was "gadfly".

davoodoo, on 19 July 2017 - 08:18 AM, said:

gg on onesided match is equivalent of going to a homeless person and saying "nice house you got there"...

To you and many others, that may well be. To me and many others, it is not.

[Jay Leon Hart]

It usually smacks of "Git Gud" more than "Good Game" but eh, there's always the next match.

Your (general "your", not any individual) interpretation of "GG" is no more (or less) valid than mine.

That said...

o7
O7
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[Selous]

lol on the snowflakes in this thread.

gg to you!

[JadePanther]

AssaultPig, on 19 July 2017 - 08:51 AM, said:

it kinda puts the lie to the whole argument; we're meant to believe that 'gg' is an expression of respect, sportsmanship, etc...

until someone doesn't particularly like it, and then **** them, they're obviously just triggered child snowflakes or whatever

makes it hard to believe that there was a lot of respect there in the first palce

Thats right u tell em.. tell em right damn bleeding heart liberal snowflakes they need to GiT GuD cause u GiT er DuN.. whats next? goobacks coming from the future who TuK uR JerBs.. ok redneck randy u do that. cause thats what dirty mudballs do call people snowflakes.. but its ok just point to where the dirty meeheecans TuK uR JerB and el presidentie trumpo the clown will spite them with a mighty twitter rant... Hell tell them stern things that will make them afraid to laugh cause they might laugh to death..

its this wonderful environment of trolls and @$$hats that are the reason people look at things and see both sides of the coin..

I tell u this thread seems to get more priceless by the minute..

[Mystere]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 July 2017 - 08:25 AM, said:

We used to call it having balls. (but that would probably trigger the SJWs as sexist today)

Tsk! Tsk!

[Toothless]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 July 2017 - 09:33 AM, said:

dis guy getz it.

I'd give you a *this guy wins the internet* cookie for distilling the true fundamental point flying over certain people's heads....., but that would be very insensitive of me, since you may have gluten allergies or diabetes, or I may be implying you are incapable of making/procuring a cookie on your own (or even assuming you like cookies... you might be a savory snack sort of person). At least according to our empathetic friends present.

This may seem a little extreme, but I am only tying to be empathetic and consider every possible way my actions may be interpreted and the potential cultural ramifications and repercussions thereof.

Im a veteran so my opinion on safe spaces is admittedly biased.

[JadePanther]

Mystere, on 19 July 2017 - 09:41 AM, said:

Tsk! Tsk!

and the memeing shall begin. quick find your birdseed everyone...

[Bishop Steiner]

Jay Leon Hart, on 19 July 2017 - 09:36 AM, said:

It usually smacks of "Git Gud" more than "Good Game" but eh, there's always the next match.

Your (general "your", not any individual) interpretation of "GG" is no more (or less) valid than mine.

That said...

o7
O7
07
o>
O>
0>
<o
<O
<0
o/
O/
0/
\o
\O
\0

and all of those can and will be interpreted as a mocking insult by those so inclined to....










and so where does the madness end?

Because those determined to take offense and be insulted will eventually twist everything to be an insult. And in fact most "insulting" gestures became such because of people intentionally taking something non offensive and then making a determined effort to make it offensive.

Soon the only "polite" society will be a silent one?

JadePanther, on 19 July 2017 - 09:45 AM, said:

and the memeing shall begin. quick find your birdseed everyone...

Meme-ing is lazy and therefore disrespectful. If you truly mean it you GIF.

[WarHippy]

JadePanther, on 19 July 2017 - 07:22 AM, said:

GG is a 2 letter cop out.. people punch 2 letters and GTFO as fast as they can... is there any sincerity in that, nope... Its become a token gesture that people cnat even be bothered to spell out.. Worse yet its been adopted by troll culture as Git Gud for bragging and trolling shenanigans...

So really anymore its just 2 letters that someone mashed before mashing ESC.. Its lost any respectful meaning.

If somone types "Good Game" out or other general congratulatory or respectful comments then thats a nice thing.. But gg is lame now and just 1 letter of 26 that anyone can mash.. look i can mash letters too a;lkd;salkdf;lakdjf;alkdsj;ljfasldhgklhj

It has only lost any respectful meaning if that is how you choose to take it. What meaning it holds is the meaning you choose to give it. While I have never been a fan of abbreviated statements and all the other silly nonsense people have come up with to represent words due to character limits on things like twitter etc. it is still on me if I read too much or too little into what someone else has said.

On a similar note I will never forget the conversation I had one time discussing this symbol <3. I had someone ask why people kept calling him an @sshat and as such I was rather confused because I had always seen it as a heart.

[Bishop Steiner]

ZacharyJ, on 19 July 2017 - 09:41 AM, said:

Im a veteran so my opinion on safe spaces is admittedly biased.

Never served myself, but appreciate the perspective I often see from service men and women. Also cops, and other people who have actually dealt with enough of the good, bad and ugly of live to have some degree of context as to what is or is not worth getting worked up over.

Most SJWs I see today would be too offended that a person was a spearfisherman to be willing to help them if they were drowning... real great empathy there.

[Mcgral18]

GGclose

[Mystere]

Yellonet, on 19 July 2017 - 08:50 AM, said:

I feel that this discussion is akin to the discussion about if one is OK if innocents will be punished in order to punish all guilty criminals or if it's better to let some criminals go free to ensure that no innocents are punished.

That's a really terrible analogy. This is a video game, not life-and-death.