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[MNML86]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 20 August 2017 - 04:01 PM, said:

While 0.89 (I assume QP stats) is better than the 0.36 from faction, it's still not something you should draw attention to. Assuming you have a proper computer that can handle MWO at 60 fps, if you turn your mouse sensitivity down, it will vastly help your shooting, and in turn, it will help your W/L and K/D

To be honest I'm not ashamed or proud of my score. As you can tell from my posts I never bother with it. I just wondered where he got that score from. (Thanks for the tip!)

Just didn't expect Leggin to mind it so much and to stoop to as low as online shaming. Nor did I expect people actually to like this sort thing as especially some who I thought were impartial knowledgeable people. I am actually disappointed rather then angry. Some people I expected, others I was surprised.

Then again where were these warriors when there were posters who actually said get "git gud" to others. (For whose who did not read the thread I only copy pasted from others)

Where were they hiding? Why only now they try to white knight? What about all that earlier silence when others were attacked?

P.S I expected Leggin to just tell me, I never expected he would be bothered to actually save and upload a screenshot. I know I wouldn't.

Edited by MNML86, 20 August 2017 - 07:48 PM.

[Leggin Ho]

I'm a through kind of guy, you asked so I made sure you knew, simple as that really. Took maybe 2 mins to do. As far as online shaming, nope could not shame you since all I did was post available data, feel free to post mine if it makes you feel better.

[MNML86]

Leggin Ho, on 20 August 2017 - 07:03 PM, said:

I'm a through kind of guy, you asked so I made sure you knew, simple as that really. Took maybe 2 mins to do. As far as online shaming, nope could not shame you since all I did was post available data, feel free to post mine if it makes you feel better.

You could have just told me where you got it with one or two sentences. But you took all this trouble to do all of this. Guess you are really through then huh.

If your intention was not shame then what was the point of posting someone's personal score/figure hmm? And laughing at it.

Told you I couldn't be bothered to check. I really don't know your score maybe it's really good 4 or 5 maybe? Good on you then being so good at the game. Congratulations keep it up.

Your score is your score its yours.

Edited by MNML86, 20 August 2017 - 08:19 PM.

[Grus]

So to state This, they are not changes the tonnage any time soon because there's too many high teir players on clan side. And for that reason is probably why I'm always d roping aganced KCOM, Bc, 228, and HHOD... #Sarcasm.

Edit: cell phone typed.

Edited by Grus, 21 August 2017 - 06:00 PM.

[Marquis De Lafayette]

Grus, on 21 August 2017 - 05:59 PM, said:

So to state This, they are not changes the tonnage any time soon because there's too many high teir players on clan side. And for that reason is probably why I'm always d roping aganced KCOM, Bc, 228, and HHOD... #Sarcasm.

Edit: cell phone typed.

Umm.....Kcom is Steel Viper loyalists...Clan-side you know.... flashbacks of battles gone by?!?!

Seriously, with an event on the fields of puglandia are thick with bad pugs right now....on the IS side for sure (sure the Clan side is probably no better)....just more teams are on the Clan side. I haven't seen an HHOD group in NA primetime for days...(usually we face them nightly)...they are probably still dropping, but as matches are getting made pretty quick the chances of getting pugs are just greater now. Heck, your unit (ARC7) even got a planet last night in NA primetime cycle. I'm sure they didn't do that facing nothing but the units you listed.

[Tier5 Kerensky]

MNML86, on 20 August 2017 - 08:16 PM, said:

If your intention was not shame then what was the point of posting someone's personal score/figure hmm? And laughing at it.

Idea usually is to point out that if someone makes a claim about something, that there might be no grounds for that thing, if the person saying that displays poor skill in a matter related to what the claim was about.

Yes the above is god-awful as far as sentances go, but I tried to make it as generic as possible without taking any stance to what the person who's stats were being mentioned, had said.

Of course some claims don't get automatically invalidated just because the person saying doesn't play well, as theory and practise are very different thing.

[KursedVixen]

Hawk Eye Gouge, on 22 July 2017 - 03:20 PM, said:

So lets talk about faction warfare. With all the new tech that has been released it would probably be a good idea to increase the tonnage for the clanners now for faction warfare. Just a thought PGI.

will never happen.

Leone, on 23 July 2017 - 08:14 PM, said:

Actually, I have an appeal from the IS side for a friend who doesn't pilot assualts. We need to reduce IS tonnage down to 240 again. Think of the light pilots who cannot bring a light lest they leave tonnage on the table because they refuse to bring assaults they're no good in.

Think of the locusts, sitting unused, but not unloved. Someone, please think of the lights pilots!

~Leone.

I see plenty of Locust in FW



Once again i see the SAME thing when balance is talked about OH IS is not Op IS does not have better mechs IS overquirkyness does not exist....

Play clan for a week or so and say the same I don't think you play clane mechs in QP enough.

Edited by KursedVixen, 22 August 2017 - 10:48 AM.

[Commander A9]

They won't.

"Clans are winning too much."

Bleh.

[Insanity09]

Regardless of previous statements made by PGI....
Regardless of the supposed impact of the new tech and the supposed balancing &/or advantage it gave to the IS...
Regardless of the supposed switch of many skilled units to play on the IS side (for the moment?)...
Regardless of some folks having lots of losses as clanners...

Every time I look at the faction warfare bar, the Clan is still dominating.

Overall, they are winning more matches. I will admit that it does seem to be taking a bit longer for the bar to max out than it used to, but that's just the impression I've gotten, not hard data.
Perhaps this is merely because there are more IS pugs dropping? Except that would mean that they should be getting slow, free win drops, which would be pushing the IS up on the bar (since they should be outnumbering the clans?)... which isn't happening?

This suggests to me that lowering IS tonnage or raising Clan really isn't necessary at present.

More time and non-event data would seem to be crucial before this decision is made.

Edited by Insanity09, 22 August 2017 - 06:14 PM.

[Carl Vickers]

There are more pugs dropping but more to the point, there are less IS loyalists dropping overall as most of them would have maxed their chosen faction at level 20 and there is nothing to keep them coming back as they dont get anything after that.

PGI, expand the loyalty rank system, it is simple to do and would attract people back to the mode(perhaps), but it is a start.

[r4zen]

MNML86, on 13 August 2017 - 10:57 PM, said:

Was trying to trigger the local SJWs and snowflakes, it's fun seeing them jump up and down.
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MNML86, on 20 August 2017 - 06:51 PM, said:

Just didn't expect Leggin to mind it so much and to stoop to as low as online shaming. Nor did I expect people actually to like this sort thing as especially some who I thought were impartial knowledgeable people. I am actually disappointed rather then angry. Some people I expected, others I was surprised.

Then again where were these warriors when there were posters who actually said get "git gud" to others. (For whose who did not read the thread I only copy pasted from others)

Where were they hiding? Why only now they try to white knight? What about all that earlier silence when others were attacked?

Found the snowflake

[Insanity09]

Hmm. A good point, Carl Vickers. Perhaps if they changed the system so that you would get another reward every time you earned the equivalent of rank 19-20 again, of your choice perhaps?

[Carl Vickers]

Insanity09, on 22 August 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

Hmm. A good point, Carl Vickers. Perhaps if they changed the system so that you would get another reward every time you earned the equivalent of rank 19-20 again, of your choice perhaps?

Something like that or take away the stupid restrictions for being loyalist so people can do the mech bay tour ect without drama's.

Removing that kind of stuff would also allow for dynamic population adjustment. Lets say clans are stacked with merc units doing their thing, if people could leave their unit and jump into a sister unit on the other side, population control gets better.

There were units who used to do this, they wouldnt get many games as one faction cause it was over populated, they would jump to a sister unit on the other side and get games.

Some special snowflakes from the trophies for participation generation complained to Russ in 140 characters or less and all of a sudden faction stacking becomes a real issue.

GG PGI.

Edited by Carl Vickers, 22 August 2017 - 08:49 PM.

[Leone]

Marquis De Lafayette, on 22 August 2017 - 07:15 AM, said:

Umm.....Kcom is Steel Viper loyalists...Clan-side you know....

Yeah, we just Signed up a week or two ago. We'd been mercing for the IS right afore that though so I find the arguement valid. We were mercs, we Merced. But yeah, too many of us'd hit top tier merc rank, and we knew everyone'd start fresh with the two new clans, so plenty of loyalty levels to nab as we played.

KursedVixen, on 22 August 2017 - 10:35 AM, said:

I see plenty of Locust in FW

The appeal was honestly and in jest, posted for a friend of mine who loves his locust, and taught me what I know of light piloting. We'd been running some CW IS side an he'd complained about feeling like he'd be letting down the team by not taking full tonnage, and didn't feel good enough in his assaults to take em instead of his more comfortable heavies to counter act the weight savings the locust brought.

~Leone.

Edited by Leone, 22 August 2017 - 09:58 PM.

[Grus]

Leone, on 22 August 2017 - 09:57 PM, said:

Yeah, we just Signed up a week or two ago. We'd been mercing for the IS right afore that though so I find the arguement valid. We were mercs, we Merced. But yeah, too many of us'd hit top tier merc rank, and we knew everyone'd start fresh with the two new clans, so plenty of loyalty levels to nab as we played.



The appeal was honestly and in jest, posted for a friend of mine who loves his locust, and taught me what I know of light piloting. We'd been running some CW IS side an he'd complained about feeling like he'd be letting down the team by not taking full tonnage, and didn't feel good enough in his assaults to take em instead of his more comfortable heavies to counter act the weight savings the locust brought.

~Leone.

Yeah your swap over was fairly recent, little saddened because you guys are fun to shoot at.

Marquis De Lafayette, on 22 August 2017 - 07:15 AM, said:

Umm.....Kcom is Steel Viper loyalists...Clan-side you know.... flashbacks of battles gone by?!?!

Seriously, with an event on the fields of puglandia are thick with bad pugs right now....on the IS side for sure (sure the Clan side is probably no better)....just more teams are on the Clan side. I haven't seen an HHOD group in NA primetime for days...(usually we face them nightly)...they are probably still dropping, but as matches are getting made pretty quick the chances of getting pugs are just greater now. Heck, your unit (ARC7) even got a planet last night in NA primetime cycle. I'm sure they didn't do that facing nothing but the units you listed.

you noticed us sempi? *blush* seriously though it took a lot of games and we didn't have a 12 man but for a few of them (if memory serves).

[KursedVixen]

more mech bay and mc rewards along with more reward ranks would be a good incentive for me. don't care much for cockpit items, unless it's warhorns.

[Marquis De Lafayette]

Grus, on 24 August 2017 - 01:10 PM, said:

Yeah your swap over was fairly recent, little saddened because you guys are fun to shoot at.

you noticed us sempi? *blush* seriously though it took a lot of games and we didn't have a 12 man but for a few of them (if memory serves).

I noticed because you guys beat us out for that a planet that cycle. Congrats and keep up the good work.

[Tier5 Kerensky]

Insanity09, on 22 August 2017 - 06:13 PM, said:

Perhaps this is merely because there are more IS pugs dropping? Except that would mean that they should be getting slow, free win drops, which would be pushing the IS up on the bar (since they should be outnumbering the clans?)

Depends on how much more. If there is much much more IS players, anytime Clan gets 12 players together, they will likely get a game right then. And IS would have many empty drops.

But if there is only some more IS players, and if there are only few dozens on players in the queue, then any formed IS team, which are formed faster than Clan teams, will still need to wait that (9 mins or so?) for Clan, and that's quite a long time. They might still get few empty drops but not so much.
And I believe during that time Clan and freelancers will get call for reinforcements which can bring in players who weren't going to play FP. So small difference in number of players will lead first to longer waiting times for the lesser side.

Edited by Teer Kerensky, 24 August 2017 - 05:39 PM.

[ContingencyPlan]

So I just returned from a 1 year break from the game and have gotten back into FW. When I left my unit was IS, and I returned and now we're clan. I'm not enjoying playing on clan side and it's not necessarily because of balance reasons but because with the tonnage limit being significantly lower clan just doesn't have the ability to readily field assaults in their drop decks like IS can. Not without gimping their drop deck in other areas SEVERELY anyway. It feels like we're more or less obligated to spread our tonnage evenly between 60-65 ton heavies, and there isn't a whole lot of room to play any other way. Is it balanced? I can't say. But not having choices sure isn't too much fun.