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[Skipmagnet]

You already play poorly, so you don't have much fun, which leads to you playing worse and even less fun. Who cares if you have the latest tech if you hate the thought of playing the game?

I was where you are. I took a few months off, played something I really enjoyed (ultra-modded Skyrim in my case) and then came back, remembered why I play. I really think some time away could help.

[Erufen]

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Edited by Andi Nagasia, 21 August 2017 - 01:16 PM.
Name & Shame, you know better,

[ingramli]

Erufen, on 03 August 2017 - 10:28 PM, said:

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I have stayed with my team, i guess i didnt kill enough enemy, though.

Edited by McValium, 03 August 2017 - 11:27 PM.
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[Erufen]

ingramli, on 03 August 2017 - 10:34 PM, said:

I have stayed with my team, i guess i didnt kill enough enemy, though.

We've all given you some form of advice, and you have always a counter to any possible problem you may have. I think you would get a lot better if you admit to your own shortcomings and listen to what we are telling you, and analyze the numbers. I have ~11 seasons with over 1.0 KDR, and over 200 match score, where as you have most well below 200 match score, and far below 1.0 KDR.

Point being, your suggestion is terrible, your play style is not compatible with this game, and this thread has run its course.

Edited by Erufen, 03 August 2017 - 10:40 PM.

[ingramli]

Erufen, on 03 August 2017 - 10:36 PM, said:

We've all given you some form of advice, and you have always a counter to any possible problem you may have. I think you would get a lot better if you admit to your own shortcomings and listen to what we are telling you, and analyze the numbers. I have ~11 seasons with over 1.0 KDR, and over 200 match score, where as you have most well below 200 match score, and far below 1.0 KDR.

Point being, your suggestion is terrible, and this thread has run its course.

I just point out one thing that you are incorrect. I do have stayed with my team most of the time, whether i performed well, is another issue.

Edited by ingramli, 03 August 2017 - 10:39 PM.

[B0oN]

ingramli, on 03 August 2017 - 09:26 AM, said:

in QP solo queue so often (i'd say ~70% of games) that the opposite team get better players, or better teamwork to smash my team, we need some sort of mechanism to balance the potato/solo teams and the coordinated units, i can think of two methods,

1. Put "penalty weight" on good players
- Increase the heat generates when they fire their guns;
- increase the crit chance when they have some component exposed;
- decrease the damage dealt by their weapons

2. Limiting the effectiveness of team communication
- Introduce consumables/equipment that can jam the communication (text/voip) of the opposite team (for example, mech within ECM range of the opposite team (in disrupt mode) disallows one to send any wheel command/ voip or text message until he/she get out of the ecm effective range.

Until we have some sort of remedy, the gaming experience in solo queue wont improve......

How ´bout "HELL NO" sir
Dont be such a learning resilient ...

[Erufen]

ingramli, on 03 August 2017 - 10:38 PM, said:

I just point out one thing that you are incorrect. I do have stayed with my team most of the time, whether i performed well, is another issue.

If you did, your match score would be closer to mine. You get Lance in Formation bonuses, as well as protected ____ simply by being near your team. You and I have an identical W/L ratio. Ignoring my higher KDR, my match score is quite a bit higher than yours. I play in solo queue, and I take charge of my team, and I make sure to stay with them.

But hey, You have all the answers, that is why you are such an awesome player, right?

[ingramli]

Erufen, on 03 August 2017 - 10:42 PM, said:

If you did, your match score would be closer to mine. You get Lance in Formation bonuses, as well as protected ____ simply by being near your team. You and I have an identical W/L ratio. Ignoring my higher KDR, my match score is quite a bit higher than yours. I play in solo queue, and I take charge of my team, and I make sure to stay with them.

But hey, You have all the answers, that is why you are such an awesome player, right?

I didnt get much from protected medium or so is because i am usually the first one down when we stand together, so often get lurms to hell or poptart by ERPPC/gauss, or so....standing together didnt extend my longevity in my experience.....

[Carl Vickers]

ingramli, on 03 August 2017 - 10:49 PM, said:

I didnt get much from protected medium or so is because i am usually the first one down when we stand together, so often get lurms to hell or poptart by ERPPC/gauss, or so....standing together didnt extend my longevity in my experience.....

So everyone else has to cop a handicap cause u arent very good, nope not happening, you can put in the time like all of the rest of the good players and git gud.

[Vellron2005]

ingramli, on 03 August 2017 - 09:26 AM, said:

in QP solo queue so often (i'd say ~70% of games) that the opposite team get better players, or better teamwork to smash my team, we need some sort of mechanism to balance the potato/solo teams and the coordinated units, i can think of two methods,

1. Put "penalty weight" on good players
- Increase the heat generates when they fire their guns;
- increase the crit chance when they have some component exposed;
- decrease the damage dealt by their weapons

2. Limiting the effectiveness of team communication
- Introduce consumables/equipment that can jam the communication (text/voip) of the opposite team (for example, mech within ECM range of the opposite team (in disrupt mode) disallows one to send any wheel command/ voip or text message until he/she get out of the ecm effective range.

Until we have some sort of remedy, the gaming experience in solo queue wont improve......

We do have such a mechanism.. it's called "Matchmaker" (MM for short).

It's supposed to make sure T4's dont get matched with T1s.. but guess what.. it doesn't work because of low player population..

In-game, I see absolutely no logical reason why "getting good" at the game could have explainable penalties..

What, is it like "ok, so you know how to drive fast cars now.. here, drive this piece of crap car and go race in F1"?

Doesn't make much sense does it?

[ingramli]

Vellron2005, on 03 August 2017 - 10:53 PM, said:

We do have such a mechanism.. it's called "Matchmaker" (MM for short).

It's supposed to make sure T4's dont get matched with T1s.. but guess what.. it doesn't work because of low player population..

In-game, I see absolutely no logical reason why "getting good" at the game could have explainable penalties..

What, is it like "ok, so you know how to drive fast cars now.. here, drive this piece of crap car and go race in F1"?

Doesn't make much sense does it?

If nerfing the good doesnt sounds good, how about buffing the bad/mediocore? Making them somehow stand a chance to compete with the better players is not a bad idea isnt it?

[Carl Vickers]

ingramli, on 03 August 2017 - 10:57 PM, said:

If nerfing the good doesnt sounds good, how about buffing the bad/mediocore? Making them somehow stand a chance to compete with the better players is not a bad idea isnt it?

Ahh, the participation trophy generation who dont want to spend the time to 'git gud', they just think they should be brought up to everyone else's level. No to buffs for the bad under performers.

[Brain Cancer]

ingramli, on 03 August 2017 - 09:32 PM, said:

4. I do ride mediums and heavies sometimes, but i cant utilize their potential as i hardly hit anything when i move. Only assault give me more armor to eat the return fire when i stand still and shoot;

Missiles. No, really. This is from your friendly neighborhood LRM chucker- if you can't aim on the move, you may as well use lock-on weapons that at least can pummel something with blunt force trauma. LRMs. Streaks for close work. ATMs can work too, if you're a Clan account like mine. Make sure you pack an active probe for ECM and remember that bigger isn't always better. You'll never be a torso-coring lasergod, but you'll contribute better than as a stationary target turret that gets easily focused into a donut. The mobility will help if you're in a heavy- assaults are the -worst- option for an unskilled player, not the best. Positioning matters, and an easily harpooned whale with a green pilot is the first and best target for most people to get their free kill from. If it doesn't get at least 64kph, you need to be in something else.

[Carl Vickers]

In heavies you generally want to be going around 75+ speed wise, specially as IS.

[ingramli]

RJF Volkodav, on 03 August 2017 - 11:03 PM, said:

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The team work in solo queue is nowhere as good as the one in your video...nevertheless, thanks for the interesting video.

Edited by McValium, 03 August 2017 - 11:28 PM.

[Lily from animove]

MechaBattler, on 03 August 2017 - 09:31 AM, said:

Matchmaker isn't accurate enough to track who are actually good players and who are just riding the coattails of better players. Sometimes people do well because someone else called a push and called targets. That doesn't make them good players per se. The same people might not do as well without someone coordinating.

Are you going to suggest blocking voip and chat as well?

blame the Tier system it's abyssimally bad at jusdging a player, and MM only has the tier rating to work with. too many golden wrapped greens and too many people who doesn't have racked up the 100's of games to get T1 even if they have the skill.

[ingramli]

Carl Vickers, on 03 August 2017 - 11:07 PM, said:

In heavies you generally want to be going around 75+ speed wise, specially as IS.

Using XL is asking for quick spectating most of the time....STD gives you an undergunned mech if you ask for 75kph, LFE seems to be the answer, i have hard time grinding enough to field these engines, though, 3~4M per engine translates to 25~30 games even with premium time.....

[Carl Vickers]

ingramli, on 03 August 2017 - 11:14 PM, said:

Using XL is asking for quick spectating most of the time....STD gives you an undergunned mech if you ask for 75kph, LFE seems to be the answer, i have hard time grinding enough to field these engines, though, 3~4M per engine translates to 25~30 games even with premium time.....

Its called the grind, everyone has done it, unless they are millionaires IRL and spend cash on MC and MC on space bucks. Thats part of the game. Take most players 12-24 months to get to a good level of play and mechs. Its just something you have to do.

[Kin3ticX]

Kamikaze Viking, on 03 August 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

ROFL Kin3ticX.

anddddddddddddddd it's gone

[Erufen]

ingramli, on 03 August 2017 - 11:14 PM, said:

Using XL is asking for quick spectating most of the time....STD gives you an undergunned mech if you ask for 75kph, LFE seems to be the answer, i have hard time grinding enough to field these engines, though, 3~4M per engine translates to 25~30 games even with premium time.....

The more you post, the more I realize that the problem is with how you play the game, and not with how MatchMaking works.

This is the marauder I run, and this is an average match in it.

Unfortunately, I don't have any recent screenshots of my SRM Catapult, but I usually get around 600 damage off it.

Standard means weaponless mechs? Learn to tank.

XL means an early death? Learn. to. tank.