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[Angel of Annihilation]

So I have this mech, it is my favorite mech and right now it isn't too popular and it is kind of flying under the radar but just barely under the radar. In a few weeks a hero version of it is coming out and because I like this mech so much I really want to buy this hero version to take advantage of the 30% C-bill boost. However, I can't trust PGI not to nerf premium content so I can't bring myself to buy the hero.

Kind of a sad state of the game when you have players feeling like this don't you all think.

[The Lighthouse]

Viktor Drake, on 03 August 2017 - 05:09 PM, said:

So I have this mech, it is my favorite mech and right now it isn't too popular and it is kind of flying under the radar but just barely under the radar. In a few weeks a hero version of it is coming out and because I like this mech so much I really want to buy this hero version to take advantage of the 30% C-bill boost. However, I can't trust PGI not to nerf premium content so I can't bring myself to buy the hero.

Kind of a sad state of the game when you have players feeling like this don't you all think.

You can restrict yourself to mechs that do not rely on quirks.

[Kiiyor]

It's the reason I didn't shell out for the Roughneck. The quirks looked fantastic - but then I remembered the 4SP, back collecting dust and rotting in it's mechbay, proof that real world performance is not the main factor for nerfs.

[Jackal Noble]

Which is funny, because it doesn't have any quirks to begin with. Second of all, that added Ballistic in the LT isn't really earth shattering, only really new build is just making it possible to run 4 instead of 3 of the lightest ultra's available - only reason I ordered it.

Unless you are talking about the 8mg tickling death machine. In that case, well ya... destroyer of worlds kind of stuff there...

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Same reason I'm not buying a mad cat MK2, especially the deathstrike, and why I'm waiting until Roughneck is out for cbills. They killed my Spirit Bear, I'm not wasting money again.

[Angel of Annihilation]

The Lighthouse, on 03 August 2017 - 05:12 PM, said:

You can restrict yourself to mechs that do not rely on quirks.

Actually the mech in question doesn't have any quirks. However it is Clan and we know how PGI just loves to Nerf all things Clan.

[JediPanther]

It's a hard lesson to learn. You spend a wad on that new shiny with god quirks a month or few pass then your new shiny comes out for c-bills while getting striped down from a t1 mech to lowly t5 troll mech. But wait there's more. A new shiny to replace the one you just lost.

Never buy a mech for quirks it has on it; it will be nerfed and nerfed and nerfed. Example A: Huggin. Example B: Oxide Example C: The new shiny.

[FupDup]

The Lighthouse, on 03 August 2017 - 05:12 PM, said:

You can restrict yourself to mechs that do not rely on quirks.

PGI can always just nerf the base agility if there are no quirks left.

No one is safe from the Nerfinator™.

Edited by FupDup, 03 August 2017 - 05:33 PM.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Dakota1000, on 03 August 2017 - 05:23 PM, said:

Same reason I'm not buying a mad cat MK2, especially the deathstrike, and why I'm waiting until Roughneck is out for cbills. They killed my Spirit Bear, I'm not wasting money again.

Yeah that is kind of my issue. I have been bitten so many times it isn't funny.

1st Bite - Heavy Metal which I bought because it could mount a 330XL and 5 jump jets which allowed it to be exceptional mobile and have about the same jump capability as most medium mechs. Now its got hover jets at best.

2nd Bite - Dragon Slayer which was bought for much the same reason as the Heavy Metal. Quick, Agile and exceptional JJ capability. This one they gutted because it got hit not only by the JJ nerf but they also ripped out any hint of agility it had.

3rd Bite - Spirit Bear which was bought because HEY just like the rest it was a quick agile Assault mech though no JJs but by this time I had given up on anything resembling good jump capability on a Assault mech. Now it is just pathetic.

4th Bite - Scorch because HEY HEY it was a quick, agile assault mech....Hmmm....you think I would have learned my lesson by now that PGI just can't tolerate a quick, agile and mobile Assault mech in this game right?

[Kuaron]

I'm glad PGI is nerfing things and trying to uphold some balance.

[El Bandito]

PGI's "Sell first, nerf later" strategy is well known by now. I am personally stoked over the impending release of HBR-P. That mech aint gonna be nerfed. Wanted to buy the Hero variant but then remembered that I have the Loyalty variant. And it is one of my best performers.

[Cementi]

Viktor Drake, on 03 August 2017 - 05:09 PM, said:

So I have this mech, it is my favorite mech and right now it isn't too popular and it is kind of flying under the radar but just barely under the radar. In a few weeks a hero version of it is coming out and because I like this mech so much I really want to buy this hero version to take advantage of the 30% C-bill boost. However, I can't trust PGI not to nerf premium content so I can't bring myself to buy the hero.

Kind of a sad state of the game when you have players feeling like this don't you all think.

Balance is an ever changing thing and does not influence my real money purchases. Especially when the stuff that is being newly released is often unproven. I expect it to get buffs or nerfs within a couple months of release (really it should be sooner but PGI is really slow about that kinda thing).

Buy it if you want it or don't but never pay real cash for quirks as they WILL change at some point.

I have paid cbills for qurks many times and will continue to do so.

[Davegt27]

someone has to buy Mist Lynx hero I say do it

[STEF_]

Kiiyor, on 03 August 2017 - 05:14 PM, said:

It's the reason I didn't shell out for the Roughneck. The quirks looked fantastic - but then I remembered the 4SP, back collecting dust and rotting in it's mechbay, proof that real world performance is not the main factor for nerfs.

Yea, but I bought it anyway.
Now, 2UAC10 fun.
If pgi nerf it, I go for those 4 fantastic supa-high energy hardpoints


(assuming we are talking about the hero)

Edited by Stefka Kerensky, 03 August 2017 - 06:56 PM.

[Brain Cancer]

The real "early adopter bonus" is getting to use new robots with superior quirkenings, shortly before the Stark Fist of Removal is laid upon them.

Cause giant robots get no Slack.

[JC Daxion]

well seeing you didn't say which mech you are talking about... Just that it is one of the heroes coming next month.. would anyone say that any of them are OP? Hellbringer? ebon? ACH? I don't think any of them are that OP at this point in time. The last changes have reined in the ach a bit, and the others are good, but not just ruling matches right?

Gargoyle is the only one that it looks like it could get a really nice boost, but that one is under performing anyway right?

Unless you are talking about the CII's I kinda wonder about the HBK, that is one tough mech even now right?


I personally have never bought anything early, outside of my most recent Javelin pack, and i got the Hero BK, but neither are in that OP need nerf now zone IMO.

[ice trey]

I chose my mechs based on whether or not they show up on the DCMS random assignment tables from Historicals War of 3039 or from Era Report 3052. Some mechs I've liked, some not, but I've never bought to powergame, so I don't pay-to-win, relieving a lot of frustration on that front.

I am unlikely to make it to tier 1, nor to fall to tier 5, but from what I've heard, Tier 1 isn't the most fun place to be. There really isn't a reason to powergame to get up there. There is no unlockable or prize at the end. It pretty much boils down to bragging rights and ad hominem attacking people on forums to tell them "You're ranked badly so your opinions are wrong".

Edited by ice trey, 03 August 2017 - 08:05 PM.

[Monkey Lover]

Just remember they dont nerf until after it hits cbills. You will at least get a few months of fun

[Asym]

This is a micro-sales platform. They sell you a top tier combat mech. Let you get use it to rack ups some points. Then, they run a series of nerf's to degrade it's effectiveness.... You get pissed, can't fix what they took. Youread forum articles and listen to other MW pilots tell you to "get Gud" a hundred times with a mech that is 30% less effective and you then get angry and either quit or, buy the next combat efficient mech to "give you that thrill....."

Want to end this cycle: stop buying and tell them you'll not buy another mech from them.....

Edited by Asym, 03 August 2017 - 08:44 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

Viktor Drake, on 03 August 2017 - 05:38 PM, said:

Yeah that is kind of my issue. I have been bitten so many times it isn't funny.

1st Bite - Heavy Metal which I bought because it could mount a 330XL and 5 jump jets which allowed it to be exceptional mobile and have about the same jump capability as most medium mechs. Now its got hover jets at best.

2nd Bite - Dragon Slayer which was bought for much the same reason as the Heavy Metal. Quick, Agile and exceptional JJ capability. This one they gutted because it got hit not only by the JJ nerf but they also ripped out any hint of agility it had.

3rd Bite - Spirit Bear which was bought because HEY just like the rest it was a quick agile Assault mech though no JJs but by this time I had given up on anything resembling good jump capability on a Assault mech. Now it is just pathetic.

4th Bite - Scorch because HEY HEY it was a quick, agile assault mech....Hmmm....you think I would have learned my lesson by now that PGI just can't tolerate a quick, agile and mobile Assault mech in this game right?

The only thing I see here is you failing to notice the trend.

Agile assault 'Mechs are bad for balance. At each point you bought them, those chassis were the top of the game because they had unmatched firepower AND mobility AND durability. And each time PGI released the successor 'Mechs, they apparently failed to learn the same damn lesson from the one they nerfed.

The MC II came out with reduced agility, so maybe they actually remembered this time. There isn't much they can or even should do to it; it's fine as it is.