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[Davegt27]

how about a 3LPL T-Bolt?

[deimos]

Jun Watarase, on 15 August 2017 - 08:33 PM, said:

5x LPL/ERLL battlemasters. Just makes me want to puke. Also people who run 3x LPL warhammers, dragons, quickdraw...

It's called vomit for a reason.

[Xetelian]

Saw a guy with 6 tag and one medium laser on a GHR. I reported him, as did most of our team.

Edited by Xetelian, 15 August 2017 - 08:58 PM.

[King Kahuna]

Okay, you asked for it.

Just got my kid into playing MWO now that he is home from the Navy. He is great at video games and getting gud fast but he still is (not really that good)in the trash tiers and rising faster than I did. I was watching a game he was playing recently and giving advise. It amounted to watching a bunch of really bad builds, heat management and positioning play out till its underwhelming conclusion.

While watching the match after he went to the big mech bay in the sky, we watched a truly amazing battle. This battle featured a Zeus-9s, 2 LL (and that's all), I am guessing a big standard engine and a metric ton of double heat sinks. Fairly fast Zeus, never had a heat issue, couldn't hit squat with his (OMG) 2 large lasers and only came out of hiding to fight the whole opposing team (still at 7 mechs) when they cornered him.

It was so bad that I was LMAO watching it.

[QuantumButler]

Jun Watarase, on 15 August 2017 - 08:33 PM, said:

5x LPL/ERLL battlemasters. Just makes me want to puke. Also people who run 3x LPL warhammers, dragons, quickdraw...

The topic is bad builds, not "cookie cutter builds I personally dislike"

[Dr Hobo]

I've seen..
Lights
PPC Firestarter
Heavy large laser Cheeto(I say this is a horrible build because the ACH can't cool 2 HLL)


Mediums
LRM Vindicator with a TAG.
LRM Uziel

Heavies
LRMs only Vulture
LRMs only Hellbringer
LRMS only EBJ

Assaults
Any LRM assult

[mike29tw]

Saw a Marauder the other day. He had a Guass rifle and 6 medium lasers. I have no idea how much ammo he had when he started, but at the end of the match he had 71 shots of Guass ammo left......

[Appogee]

It's the dual-TAG builds that make me crash my head into my desk.

[Dr Hobo]

Appogee, on 16 August 2017 - 01:36 AM, said:

It's the dual-TAG builds that make me crash my head into my desk.

dual TAG used to be pretty good on a jumpy Spider you could tag 2 mechs at once.

[Vellron2005]

Zergling, on 15 August 2017 - 02:17 PM, said:

2xLRM20, 2xLRM15 on a Spirit Bear. Nothing else, the spud only did 22 damage that battle too.

That build just needs 4 small lasers and it would do great..

Also, doing 22 damage in a match can happen to anyone.. all it takes it to be dropped in a far-off drop zone, and get left behind by your team.. if you are slow, you can get overrun by lights and its not a happy ending.. Also.. it's possible to do zero damage in a big assault mech.. I once dropped a dakka KDK-3 to Polar Highlands, and 3-4 minutes in, I saw no enemy, but did see the enemy's LRMs blot out the sun.. and game over.. zero damage..

So yeah.. it happens.. not always a bad build.. just bad situation..

[HGAK47]

Xetelian, on 15 August 2017 - 08:57 PM, said:

Saw a guy with 6 tag and one medium laser on a GHR. I reported him, as did most of our team.

Reported him for what exactly? Creating a build you didnt like? Haha have a word you sad bugger.

[Clownwarlord]

Loyalty Cataphract 5 medium pulses, 1 AC20, 5 tons of ammo, and the biggest LFE you can find. Sadly though hot as heck and how did I come across it? I built it because I couldn't find any better build.

[Escef]

Clownwarlord, on 16 August 2017 - 03:14 AM, said:

Loyalty Cataphract 5 medium pulses, 1 AC20, 5 tons of ammo, and the biggest LFE you can find. Sadly though hot as heck and how did I come across it? I built it because I couldn't find any better build.

I think you're misremembering the build, you can't fit an AC20, LFE, and the 5th MPL in that torso.

You could try something like this: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...7c595af69389db4

The LPPCs are using those high torso mounts, the UAC10 is a solid weapon, and the 3xML in the arms are good for dogfighting. The 325 LFE and MASC can produce some good speed if you need it. Went with MLs over ERs due to heat concerns, but I encourage trying ERs or even SPLs to see if they work. (Mind you, I haven't refitted my Loyalty 'phract, it's still sitting with a 340XL, MASC, 2xLPL, 3xMPL, endo, +9 double sinks. Not a great build, but not abjectly horrible, either. The XL is occasionally a problem, but the 'phract tends to be so low priority these days that people ignore it.)

[Dr Hobo]

Escef, on 16 August 2017 - 04:06 AM, said:

I think you're misremembering the build, you can't fit an AC20, LFE, and the 5th MPL in that torso.

You could try something like this: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...7c595af69389db4

The LPPCs are using those high torso mounts, the UAC10 is a solid weapon, and the 3xML in the arms are good for dogfighting. The 325 LFE and MASC can produce some good speed if you need it. Went with MLs over ERs due to heat concerns, but I encourage trying ERs or even SPLs to see if they work. (Mind you, I haven't refitted my Loyalty 'phract, it's still sitting with a 340XL, MASC, 2xLPL, 3xMPL, endo, +9 double sinks. Not a great build, but not abjectly horrible, either. The XL is occasionally a problem, but the 'phract tends to be so low priority these days that people ignore it.)

Torsos high mounts are LPL
Arms are ERML
Ballistics mount is a UAC10
AMS

XL 280? I think is what I had. But I do pretty good with it heatsinks and ammo to taste.

[Plastic Guru]

Bombast, on 14 August 2017 - 08:42 PM, said:

I saw a Night Gyr that had about 2000 rounds of LRM ammo 7 minutes into a match. Presumably that means he had close to 3 or 4 thousand rounds overall.
That's just absurd.

Funny story...I was trying to grind my Crab the other night and was getting decimated by LRMs. Yes, I know to dodge, use radar dep, buildings...but after 5 or 6 matches of just being creamed I got fed up. Only on HPG could we get close without losing 1/3rd of the team...
I have a Bushwacker with (5) LRM5's and a Snubby PPC. I used that to track the effing LRM boats and keep them ducking. That allowed the rest of the team to get close enough to tear through their firing line and go CQB. Nothing like a steady stream of LRM5's to keep you ducking.
Yes, I know LRM5's aren't DPS monsters....but their accurate and distracting enough till I can start taking PPC shots...and just to make it the cherry on top...locust ran up like he was gonna face tank me (I guess he thought "LRM boat wuss") and I 2 shotted him....laughed at that...

[Fox With A Shotgun]

I know new tech is fancy schmancy and all that, but there's really got to be a limit on how silly the builds can be. I saw this on a DWF:

DWF-W

Thirteen Micro Pulse Lasers and twin Gauss. It left me completely mystified when I saw it come up on my sensor readouts.

[Alek Ituin]

Oh boy, here's my I Can't Believe It's Not Fafnir! build. It's about as bad as it sounds.

[Davegt27]

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Posted Today, 01:48 AM
I've seen..
Lights
PPC Firestarter
Heavy large laser Cheeto(I say this is a horrible build because the ACH can't cool 2 HLL)


Mediums
LRM Vindicator with a TAG.
LRM Uziel

Heavies
LRMs only Vulture
LRMs only Hellbringer
LRMS only EBJ

Assaults
Any LRM assult

ER PPC Firestarter a lot of fun

[Satan n stuff]

Bud Crue, on 15 August 2017 - 04:34 AM, said:

Serious question:
Why just 2 30s instead of 40s?

I converted one of mine to an LFE 250 (or 255 I don't recall atm exactly), 2 MRM40s 6 tons of ammo and a JJ. I tried the 2 30s build on the basis that I wanted to avoid ghost heat and to better take advantage of the missile cool down quirk. But after realizing that the ghost heat on 2 40s is like 2 points. I went back up to 2 40s. I also tried the 2 30s with 2ML or 2ERML back up, and didn't find them to be worth it.

I'd rather spend the extra 4 tons on my engine and jump jets. You'd be surprised how easy it is to poptart with MRMs if you build for it. Besides it's got a higher damage per heat than firing 2 40s at once so in a brawl I'll be able to put out more damage.

jss78, on 15 August 2017 - 12:50 PM, said:

True, I saw the ghost heat warning pop up in mechlab with 2xMRM40, but I'm glad I check smurfy how much it is. It's really a token amount of extra heat.

That's true for most weapons if you only go 1 over, it's only really bad for the AC/20, large laser and PPC variants and for the latter two only because the heat is so high to begin with.

Edited by Satan n stuff, 16 August 2017 - 06:17 AM.

[Plastic Guru]

HGAK47, on 16 August 2017 - 03:02 AM, said:

Reported him for what exactly? Creating a build you didnt like? Haha have a word you sad bugger.

I was thinking same thing....what did you report him for? I mean...you've got many YouTubers (Snuggles, Beef, Baby Cakes...etc) who build these seemingly goofy...ok...sometimes REALLY goofy builds but they usually do enough damage to hold up their end. Did he run away? Give away team positions? Team Kill? Couldn't you have handled it on team chat? "Dude..wtf? Why 6 tags?" Stupid build but he did have an offensive weapon. Who knows...he may have maxed his armor and planned on being a meat-shield / targeting center. It's not like the guys who, if they're the last mech, will find a far corner and shut down just to PO everyone....and that's not 'technically' illegal either, just bad form.

Not being smarty but why would you report him? Seriously?