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[Inatu Elimor]

I' m wondering why the Uziel has such big shoulders. Obviously that space must have been designed for some purpose. And why that particular round shape??

[Mole]

Basically because the developers of Mechwarrior 4 thought it looked cool? I seriously doubt any more thought than that was put into it.

[Inatu Elimor]

Mole, on 18 August 2017 - 12:57 PM, said:

Basically because the developers of Mechwarrior 4 thought it looked cool? I seriously doubt any more thought than that was put into it.

Well I was thinking of space holding big amounts of rollbar ammo or sophisticated powerfull radar/ecm systems like awacs etc.
Just for the cool?? Makes me sadly laff...

[Kitty Bacon]

The original Uziel had a nice profile in MW 4. Had large side torsos and gave the impression that inside housed the engines, weaponry, jumpjets and electronics and had smaller legs to have more slender legs for better movement. The mech is beautiful in this game but they did miss out on one big thing...



You will be missed low stalking walk <o

[Harlock69]

The above animation looks like a Klingon Bird of Prey with legs. Totally badarse!

[Jay Leon Hart]

Kitty Bacon, on 18 August 2017 - 01:19 PM, said:

The original Uziel had a nice profile in MW 4. Had large side torsos and gave the impression that inside housed the engines, weaponry, jumpjets and electronics and had smaller legs to have more slender legs for better movement. The mech is beautiful in this game but they did miss out on one big thing...

Spoiler

You will be missed low stalking walk <o

Yes, it was less meerkat and more raptor.

[FLG 01]

As far as the looks are concerned, there is no explanation. You have to keep in mind the Uziel is not exactly a star in BattleTech, it is an insignificant Mech during the FCCW and there is not much written on it.

There is, however, a bit on its design philsophy when it comes to tactics. It is basically an oversized light Mech build for the combined arms environment of the FCCW era. Hence the JJ, big engine, and eclectic weaponry. Make it the leader of a scout lance on a battlefield with vehicles, helos etc., and you can answer pretty much every threat. The downside is that Mechs of equal weight usually have the Uziel for breakfast.

I did not buy the Mech because I disagree with it spearheading the FCCW-era in MWO (that's just anti-lore), but I will give it a try when it is released for C-Bills. I mean I am sure I could make it work as kind of Phoenix Hawk, for I like the mobility and I like mediums with an idenity crisis.

Edited by FLG 01, 18 August 2017 - 02:07 PM.

[Kitty Bacon]

FLG 01, on 18 August 2017 - 02:06 PM, said:

As far as the looks are concerned, there is no explanation. You have to keep in mind the Uziel is not exactly a star in BattleTech, it is an insignificant Mech during the FCCW and there is not much written on it.

There is, however, a bit on its design philsophy when it comes to tactics. It is basically an oversized light Mech build for the combined arms environment of the FCCW era. Hence the JJ, big engine, and eclectic weaponry. Make it the leader of a scout lance on a battlefield with vehicles, helos etc., and you can answer pretty much every threat. The downside is that Mechs of equal weight usually have the Uziel for breakfast.

I did not buy the Mech because I disagree with it spearheading the FCCW-era in MWO (that's just anti-lore), but I will give it a try when it is released for C-Bills. I mean I am sure I could make it work as kind of Phoenix Hawk, for I like the mobility and I like mediums with an idenity crisis.

The mech is really nice, you will like it. I am running the hero with 4 Mlas and 2 MRM10s with a massive 360 engine in it. goes 122, has JJs, maneuvers very well. Plus with all its weapons at cockpit height or above, it can ridge peek and snipe very well.

[Satan n stuff]

The Uziel is one of the original poptart mechs, which I think you'll find out if you play the MW4 campaigns.

[- World Eater -]

"Philosofy"

Yeah, I'm that guy

[Adept Richard III-gamma]

Inatu Elimor, on 18 August 2017 - 12:54 PM, said:

I' m wondering why the Uziel has such big shoulders. Obviously that space must have been designed for some purpose. And why that particular round shape??

Developer's description followed by the artist impression maybe?

[Archer Magnus]

The idea was to make a mech really easy to kill, perfect design if you ask me. If you want to double down on the design, fill your shoulders up with ammo! /s

Sarcasm aside, I think it is an interesting forum topic! I enjoy reading the lore on mechs, which I get from the Mech Factory app.

The big *** shoulders would give a nice angle range for LRMs I guess. Past that, beats me.

*edit, 200 forum posts AND hit tier 2 today!! Anyone want to drop 200MC for me to find?!

Edited by Archer Magnus, 18 August 2017 - 05:00 PM.

[Ruar]

Looking at the animation I would say the shoulder design is trying to have maximum mobility with some armor protection. Similar to the pauldrons on a suit of armor. I would also imagine the design is reinforced to allow for a heavier weapon in the arm mount on a relatively light chassis. A curved design would take less damage from laser and ballistic weapons by reflecting some of the energy away or causing the ballistic rounds to glance off. There is also an ease of maintenance consideration and having multiple plates would make access and replacement simpler than a solid shoulder assembly.

[Rovertoo]

I always imagine the fusion engines to be cylindrical, so I always kind of imagined that the Uziel was designed with the engine to be set horizontally. Doubt that fits real well with lore or whatever but I thought it was a cool way to design the mech.

[MechaBattler]

From looking at it. You get the impression they wanted to create a mech with high mounts and well protected. Unfortunately in MWO they decided not to compensate it's massive hunches with anything.

[Jun Watarase]

EBJ has huge side torsos too especially with the top mounted guns, gets no durability quirks either. Watch Uziel get massively buffed in the next quirk pass because its an IS mech.

[Ruar]

Jun Watarase, on 18 August 2017 - 07:09 PM, said:

EBJ has huge side torsos too especially with the top mounted guns, gets no durability quirks either. Watch Uziel get massively buffed in the next quirk pass because its an IS mech.

Because ISXL suck and need something to compensate death from torso.

[AncientRaig]

Jun Watarase, on 18 August 2017 - 07:09 PM, said:

EBJ has huge side torsos too especially with the top mounted guns, gets no durability quirks either. Watch Uziel get massively buffed in the next quirk pass because its an IS mech.

Not on the level of the Uziel. Trust me, I own both. I love both. But the Uziel has MUCH larger ST hitboxes, even with the weapon pods on the EBJ's STs. Combined with the 15 ton weight difference, the UZL needs the love.

[Anjian]

I call it the "Microsoft Mech" for a good reason. If you understand what the phrase means, you might understand something about its design.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Jun Watarase, on 18 August 2017 - 07:09 PM, said:

EBJ has huge side torsos too especially with the top mounted guns, gets no durability quirks either. Watch Uziel get massively buffed in the next quirk pass because its an IS mech.

I get the complaint, but the EBJ can choose not to have those hunches, whereas the UZL cannot.

I perform better in my EBJs with those hunches than I do in my UZL and lose STs on the UZL much more often than on the EBJ.

Not that I would refuse any EBJ armour/structure buffs, feel free to do that too