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[MechWarrior5152251]

You obviously didn't hear about Pewdiepie using the N-Word while playing Call of Duty.....

[DaZur]

How toxic?

Enough so that my previous / typical forum warrior'ing had dropped off substantially...

[Khobai]

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You obviously didn't hear about Pewdiepie using the N-Word while playing Call of Duty.....

yeah thats not the problem. the fact people actually care that pewdiepie used the n-word is the problem. seriously who cares?

the problem isnt player toxicity. its all the f*cking whiny crybabies that get constantly triggered by every little thing and cant handle it when someone is mean to them.

theyre the ones constantly complaining to devs and wasting everyones time. and sadly its not just game culture theyve screwed up, its real life too.

Edited by Khobai, 15 September 2017 - 07:20 PM.

[Bombast]

And there we go. Insulting the playerbase and equating a trivial gaming problem to real world issues.

We're one step from K-Town material. Lets see who does it!

[Khobai]

if you cant handle people being mean to you then stay off the internet. the internets a mean place. at least until the government fully regulates it because of crybabies whining about being cyberbullied.

[oldradagast]

Fox With A Shotgun, on 15 September 2017 - 03:32 PM, said:

"What? You havent played World of Warships yet? Why the hell not?! You can rage at water. Rage at the enemy! Rage at your teammates. Rage at the Yamato. Rage at your teammates! Play a raging minigame. Rage at the iceberg. Rage at the Yamato again. Admire the rage. And finally rage at the Yamato so hard it sinks."

In all seriousness though the salt in this game is mild in comparison to other multiplayer games. We tend to use the word potato as a catch all description for players that are less skilled. Compared to the other terms you see flying around on other games? Potato is pretty darn mild.

I agree - the salt in this game is minor compared to other games, although in my experience, World of Warships is *slightly* less toxic, but that's only my experience. I don't play "hard-core" modes in either game; just normal, mid-tier PvP. But, again, compared to utter cesspools of human behavior like Eve or Dota 2, this place (and WoWS) is paradise.

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Khobai, on 15 September 2017 - 07:24 PM, said:

if you cant handle people being mean to you then stay off the internet. the internets a mean place. at least until the government fully regulates it because of crybabies whining about being cyberbullied.

Of course the internet is a mean place. That doesn't excuse people for being mean.

And please, keep the strawmanning to a minimum. The Big Bad Government isn't coming for your internet insult range.

[Khobai]

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That doesn't excuse people for being mean.

It doesnt excuse people for not being able to handle it when someone is mean to them and wasting everyones time either

[oldradagast]

Khobai, on 15 September 2017 - 07:24 PM, said:

if you cant handle people being mean to you then stay off the internet. the internets a mean place. at least until the government fully regulates it because of crybabies whining about being cyberbullied.

I think you're missing the point. If somebody threatens to "kill me" every game or some crap and I decide not to play with him anymore, it's not because I "can't handle it" or "am scared of him."

No, I walk away from morons like that because he's a pathetic loser, and why should I waste my time hanging out with losers? In most cases, internet nutjobs that fly off the handle about video games are, themselves, terrible players or otherwise no fun to be around in game (or often out of the game), so why bother? Even if you can "handle them," they simply aren't worth your time and generally diminish the fun in a game because of their malice and incompetence.

I've seen too much of this backlash against "political correctness" and civilized behavior in general these days, where people think being an arsehat is now some measure of one's "manhood" and that one should be guaranteed an audience and freedom from consequences when being an arseclown and spewing violence or bigotry. It doesn't work that way. "Real men" - whatever that even means - don't need to spew insults and violence, particularly over a game, to prove themselves, and nobody is guaranteed an audience or freedom of consequences for being a jerk.

Khobai, on 15 September 2017 - 07:31 PM, said:

It doesnt excuse people for not being able to handle it when someone is mean to them and wasting everyones time either

Nice try, but no. There is NO justification for being an arseclown on the internet or anywhere else. Sorry that people are "wasting your time" if they moderate the idiots, but they deserve it. You are not guaranteed immunity to consequences for being a jerk - you just can't be put in prison for spewing stupidity, and that's it.

Edited by oldradagast, 15 September 2017 - 07:35 PM.

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Khobai, on 15 September 2017 - 07:31 PM, said:

It doesnt excuse people for not being able to handle it when someone is mean to them and wasting everyones time either

Who, exactly, is wasting your time? And why is it that only insults are allowed? Why are they special things that can be shrugged off, but criticisms of a persons behavior are suddenly a no-go, a 'waste of time,' something people should just shut up about?

[Mole]

To be fair I don't witness all that much toxicity in-game. Where I witness toxicity is on the forums. And if PGI is wasting development resources on their forums that never change and they rarely post on, then I think PGI has bigger problems than toxicity.

[El Bandito]

Compared to Overwatch, LoL, Dota2, CS:GO, and other MP only games I got in my Steam library? MWO community is very very tame.

Edited by El Bandito, 15 September 2017 - 08:13 PM.

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Mole, on 15 September 2017 - 07:56 PM, said:

To be fair I don't witness all that much toxicity in-game.

There isn't. It IS pretty tame.

I wonder if thats because MWO people are just generally nicer, or if, for some reason, the amount of people willing to actually use comms is so low there's almost no reason TO be toxic.

[o0m9]

MechWarrior5152251, on 15 September 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

You obviously didn't hear about Pewdiepie using the N-Word while playing Call of Duty.....

Well, that's because he was playing PUBG.

[5th Fedcom Rat]

MWO is less toxic than it used to be. There used to be way more REKT, GG and other taunts thrown out by people.

The players of this game have matured over time and that makes the repetitive nature of the gameplay and various related frustrations much more bearable.

So despite the wildly varying skill levels and utter tactical incompetence I see on the battlefield that makes me want to scream sometimes, the actual character of most mechwarriors I play with is first rate, so I try to follow their example, stifle whatever rant is building in my chest and move on peacefully and happily to the next exciting PUG match.

[D VA]

Look comparing to LoL, WoT, WT, WoWS... Toxicity in MWO in 98% cases have a valid leggit reason.

Yes, there is a matches of try-hard which goes down in 8-12, but when you got a controlable situation when suddenly people decide to group-up on the "flank-map" and manage to die in 2-12/0-12 the "F-words" actually are the most polite measure to do instead.... Instead find those autists and r4p3 their hamster.

Edited by D VA, 16 September 2017 - 12:37 AM.

[Dogstar]

Khobai, on 15 September 2017 - 07:16 PM, said:

the problem isnt player toxicity. its all the f*cking whiny crybabies that get constantly triggered by every little thing and cant handle it when someone is mean to them.

theyre the ones constantly complaining to devs and wasting everyones time. and sadly its not just game culture theyve screwed up, its real life too.

As someone who has been banned twice for 'toxic behaviour' or as it should be called 'swearing at cheaters' I'm in agreement with Khobai, a level of HTFU is required, we're all (at least 90%+ I guess) 30/40/50+ adult males and should be able to handle some profanity without breaking into tears.

This game doesn't have a profanity filter for the in game chat, a profanity filter is a really basic level of coding and something that pretty much _every_ other game has. Yet after 5 years PGI are wasting time chasing down people who call other people names rather than programming in a simple chat filter.

[D VA]

oldradagast, on 15 September 2017 - 07:28 PM, said:

I agree - the salt in this game is minor compared to other games, although in my experience, World of Warships is *slightly* less toxic, but that's only my experience. I don't play "hard-core" modes in either game; just normal, mid-tier PvP. But, again, compared to utter cesspools of human behavior like Eve or Dota 2, this place (and WoWS) is paradise.

WoWS is "slightly" toxic... Dude, go to RU/NA server))) Enjoy the ride.

[D VA]

Bombast, on 15 September 2017 - 07:21 PM, said:

And there we go. Insulting the playerbase and equating a trivial gaming problem to real world issues.

We're one step from K-Town material. Lets see who does it!

I concider my self as a verry toxic player and... My biggest TOP-3 insults thrown to my team since a long time was:

1) Oh well... human food.
2) Muppets!!!
3) Folks, there is minimap you know? (highest grade of tilt)

Edited by D VA, 16 September 2017 - 12:49 AM.

[Nik Reaper]

M personal favorite is " keep cycling, just don't stop, you are sure to win!" in one of those all too common 2-12 games where the fast tip of the spear gets the 2 and we lose all our weight on the rear.