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[FLG 01]

It's not even lore-friendly. It's like PGI just randomly pre-nerfs an IS Mech.
Now the quirks better be good.

[Y E O N N E]

FLG 01, on 13 October 2017 - 03:22 PM, said:

It's not even lore-friendly. It's like PGI just randomly pre-nerfs an IS Mech.
Now the quirks better be good god-like.

ftfy

[Papaspud]

F PGI, I'm canceling my Nightstar ultimate pakage, this is what they call the old bait and switch, no wonder they didn't release the art before now..... many are going to cancel their order- like me....what BS.

[CK16]

I would suggest against knee jerk reactions over the model, things can always be fixed. The arms are not that bad, sorry but a bit over reacting here a bit. No need to go to def con 5 here over this.

[Papaspud]

CK16, on 13 October 2017 - 04:29 PM, said:

I would suggest against knee jerk reactions over the model, things can always be fixed. The arms are not that bad, sorry but a bit over reacting here a bit. No need to go to def con 5 here over this.

Nope, this was bait and switch, they lowered the arms a lot- from shoulder to just above the waist, no problem, will just get a refund.

[Bishop Steiner]

CK16, on 13 October 2017 - 04:29 PM, said:

I would suggest against knee jerk reactions over the model, things can always be fixed. The arms are not that bad, sorry but a bit over reacting here a bit. No need to go to def con 5 here over this.

are you really trying to preach calm in the Salt Mines, lol?

[Y E O N N E]

CK16, on 13 October 2017 - 04:29 PM, said:

I would suggest against knee jerk reactions over the model, things can always be fixed. The arms are not that bad, sorry but a bit over reacting here a bit. No need to go to def con 5 here over this.

It's as low as a Mauler.

It is precisely that bad. It's not a Marauder IIC which can make it up with firepower, and on top of that it has severe space constraints because most of its weapons are in the arms (with hands and lower actuators), center torso, and head, and all of the IS Assault-grade ballistics (Gauss, AC/10, UAC/10) are 7 slots and all of the IS Assault grade energy weapons are at least 2 slots (Large Laser, Large Pulse, PPC, HPPC, even the damn LPPC).

The only thing the NSR had going for it was the presumed cockpit-level mounts.

[FLG 01]

CK16, on 13 October 2017 - 04:29 PM, said:

I would suggest against knee jerk reactions over the model, things can always be fixed. The arms are not that bad, sorry but a bit over reacting here a bit. No need to go to def con 5 here over this.

It's a matter of principle: neither concept art nor lore (art and minis) have the arms that low. This kind of nerf is hard to understand and should not be taken lightly.

I am not cancelling my pre-order because I want to make a statement but I am certainly not upgrading. ...which is a shame since I seriously considered that.

[Papaspud]

I am curious to what PGI's reasoning is for lowering the arms.... any guesses anyone? My guess..... everybody loves all their weapons waist high, unless they are clan.

[Bombast]

FLG 01, on 13 October 2017 - 04:41 PM, said:

It's a matter of principle: neither concept art nor lore (art and minis) have the arms that low.

Uh... actually, the original art and minis have down turned arms.

Spoiler

Also, gotta say... I assumed the arms would go down. It does have lower arm actuators, after all.

Edited by Bombast, 13 October 2017 - 04:50 PM.

[TheArisen]

I tweeted Russ about gameplay concerns. Hope we can get this fixed.
https://twitter.com/...004068697145345

[Brain Cancer]

No wonder they waited.

[FLG 01]

Bombast, on 13 October 2017 - 04:48 PM, said:

Uh... actually, the original art and minis have down turned arms.

Spoiler

Also, gotta say... I assumed the arms would go down. It does have lower arm actuators, after all.

It's the perspective of those images. In fact the lasers of the arms are almost exactly on cockpit level, the gauss just below that:



PGI's rendition has its arms far lower. While it does make certain sense that the Nightstar could technically lower its arms, it's not what the advertising concept art was showing.

[N0ni]

HOLD THE PHONE


We're being cheated out of a title (well some are).

The Arctic Wolf standard pack title: The Howl
Resistance II Wolfhound: The Howl


EXPLAIN THIS

[Jay Leon Hart]

N0ni, on 13 October 2017 - 06:35 PM, said:

HOLD THE PHONE


We're being cheated out of a title (well some are).

The Arctic Wolf standard pack title: The Howl
Resistance II Wolfhound: The Howl

EXPLAIN THIS

The same thing happened when the Huntsman dropped and had the title "The Hunter" which came with the Orion IIC, so it got changed. The title for the Arctic Wolf pack will likely be changed before release.

[Thorn Hallis]

Papaspud, on 13 October 2017 - 04:45 PM, said:

I am curious to what PGI's reasoning is for lowering the arms.... any guesses anyone? My guess..... everybody loves all their weapons waist high, unless they are clan.

Maybe the guy doing the 3D models used the TRO artwork instead of PGIs artwork.

[Papaspud]

Bombast, on 13 October 2017 - 04:48 PM, said:

Uh... actually, the original art and minis have down turned arms.

Spoiler

Also, gotta say... I assumed the arms would go down. It does have lower arm actuators, after all.

So less slots= waist high weapons for the IS, yea seems like you are right...GG PGI thanks!!!