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[Excalabur50]

So it seems the only way to get PGI to listen is to do something extreme, so my suggestion is for IS players to boycott FW and any tournaments until the blinding imbalance with this game is sorted.

Battle for Luthien just like EVERY other tournament is a ROFL stomp in favour of clans. Hell even when battles that in lore are won by the IS it still goes to the clans.

And I think it's time for PGI to stop picking and choosing which parts of the TT lore they use and that which they don't use, it's a game that won't ever translate properly between the two so just make the game with the priority of being FUN FOR EVERYONE.
So IS pilots the only way this will truly be sorted is if we all take a stand and say enough is enough!

It's time to boycott these game modes till it's sorted and please lets try and keep all the discussion on this civil.
Thanks Ex.

[El Bandito]

If enough IS players give up on FP (or just move the Clan side) and make it a ghostdrop for Clan players every time, then perhaps it will send a message to PGI. Alas, that's not gonna happen. People want event prizes.

Edited by El Bandito, 16 October 2017 - 05:31 PM.

[Mister Blastman]

They've been trying to balance this game since 2012 and still haven't managed to accomplish it. What makes you think they will now without addressing the core problems of convergence, OP?

Edited by Mister Blastman, 16 October 2017 - 05:53 PM.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

I doubt there's any loyalists who play competitively, especially any IS loyalists.

A boycott of FW will only make it worse for IS, as the large segment of players on IS who are also the large segment driving it down are the completely new players with no knowledge of battletech who just buy the IS mechs because they are cheaper without understanding they have to upgrade them. They likely won't see this post here.

[Bombast]

Uh... haven't we kind of already 'boycotted' FP? They have to bribe people to go in there, and even then most wont touch it.

Edited by Bombast, 16 October 2017 - 06:02 PM.

[Ted Wayz]

So PGI gets its revenue from people playing FW and Tournaments? Wow that is an effective strategy!

Or maybe stop buying mech packs?

No, people have and they don't seem to mind.

What part of minimally viable product on life support do people not understand? You get what is given until the lights go off. Then hope the next product is more of what you want.

[MechaBattler]

But I stopped playing a long while ago. That was before they even consolidated the buckets and further marginalized loyalist units.

[InvictusLee]

Howbout we stop buying mechpacks and tournament packs and just uninstall the game?
That'll show'm!

[Mechwarrior1441491]

When they decided NOT to make Faction Play a player supply driven mode where we actually take command, it was dead. They HAD to make it so people could essentially use ANY mech they owned in ANY drop. That right there was a delayed bullet in the head of Faction Play. They could have appealed to two different types of gamers. Two types which are a symbiosis for a grand strategic type game mode that FP was supposed to be. Shifting supply around. Dictating what output certain factories have. Advancing tech by player choice.

Rank actually meaning something would have been a start. Rank specific missions player can drop on planets that give specific game modes or slightly altered game modes.

Give up on FP and put all effort into Solaris. Learn from doing the bare minimum and actually put the effort it deserves and youll get people to come back. If not, it will be another unfinished game mode to go along with a more than likely unfinished and never to be fleshed out single player.

Edited by Mechwarrior1441491, 16 October 2017 - 06:33 PM.

[Nightbird]

90% are already boycotting this event... nothing new

[Davegt27]

[Mechwarrior1441491]

[TLBFestus]

I have been faithfully boycotting FP/CW almost since it's inception.

Hasn't had the intended effect, but hurt my feelings.

[Excalabur50]

Well half the problem stems from the fact that they pick and choose what lore to uphold, as it is fine for clan tech to be much stronger than the IS as that is in fact what happened but where it breaks down is it shouldn't be 12 v 12 it was always more IS than clan mechs and that is where the balance can come from, which in turn can make thing easier for PGI to balance more effectively

[LordNothing]

im kind of having a hard time justifying the $15 bucks to buy the piranha, a pack i wanted, in light of current disappointment level.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Excalabur50, on 16 October 2017 - 07:43 PM, said:

Well half the problem stems from the fact that they pick and choose what lore to uphold, as it is fine for clan tech to be much stronger than the IS as that is in fact what happened but where it breaks down is it shouldn't be 12 v 12 it was always more IS than clan mechs and that is where the balance can come from, which in turn can make thing easier for PGI to balance more effectively

Clans are nerfed from their table top abilities compared to IS by a considerable margin. If we are also going by lore we'd have to remove quirks, remove ghost heat, remove ability for IS to customize their battlemechs, let omnimechs swap their loadout before any battle they drop into, buff all clan tech, nerf all IS tech, and then we'd send a couple stars of Clanners against 3 lances of IS mechs. While we are at it, only players above 1kdr can play Clan and anyone below that is forced to play IS to simulate that Clan pilots are vat born super soldier elites compared to the IS.

There's a reason we have to pick and choose which parts of the lore to follow, otherwise the IS wouldn't stand a chance what so ever.

[Lupis Volk]

Dakota1000, on 16 October 2017 - 08:02 PM, said:

There's a reason we have to pick and choose which parts of the lore to follow, otherwise the IS wouldn't stand a chance what so ever.

Yeah but are you really going to expect people to understand that. I mean people kept blaming units for the mass seal clubbing while said seals refused to even drop with units and learn.

Logic and reason are LostTech in this forum.

[Nightbird]

A handicap mechanic for when a seal team faces a club team would make the game better though. MWO retains more players and there would be a little more of a ramp up than Git Gud.

Posted more details here:

https://mwomercs.com...ost__p__5903960

[Excalabur50]

Dakota1000, on 16 October 2017 - 08:02 PM, said:

Clans are nerfed from their table top abilities compared to IS by a considerable margin. If we are also going by lore we'd have to remove quirks, remove ghost heat, remove ability for IS to customize their battlemechs, let omnimechs swap their loadout before any battle they drop into, buff all clan tech, nerf all IS tech, and then we'd send a couple stars of Clanners against 3 lances of IS mechs. While we are at it, only players above 1kdr can play Clan and anyone below that is forced to play IS to simulate that Clan pilots are vat born super soldier elites compared to the IS.

There's a reason we have to pick and choose which parts of the lore to follow, otherwise the IS wouldn't stand a chance what so ever.

In EVERY SINGLE TOURNAMENT they don't stand a chance whatsoever so what bloody difference does it make, there has to be a way to make it fairer and easier for everyone to have a chance at winning the major prize not just clanners all the time!
Hell then the clanners sit there scratching their testicles going we don't have anyone to play against, yeah no wonder

[Felicitatem Parco]

Weird fact:

I rarely drop in FW because every time I load up my IS drop deck, I say to myself "I could do better with a Clan deck..." so I build a Clan deck... then I say to myself "Crap, I only did this because the Tech is better and that feels like a crutch." And I get all sad and mopey after that.