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[Ekdikesis]

OMG a new map... what year is this?? ;-)

[ZnSeventeen]

I want to jump jet around this place, a lot.

Hopefully the "bowl effect" will be lessened by verticality.

Also, reduced gravity, one day.

[ball0fire]

Ekdikesis, on 03 November 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

OMG a new map... what year is this?? ;-)

judging by the textures and object details from the video and screenshots

ima guessing early 2000's mebbe 2004ish

[NocturnalBeast]

ZnSeventeen, on 03 November 2017 - 06:23 PM, said:

I want to jump jet around this place, a lot.

Hopefully the "bowl effect" will be lessened by verticality.

Also, reduced gravity, one day.

I would live to see actual gravity / lack of gravity on maps, but since there is not even realistic water physics in the game (Mechs move full speed in deep water and splash like they are the size of a human), I doubt we will see gravity effects.

[Paradox42]

For a lot of people the key question is going to be how many fps they get on the map and if it is balanced. This are areas in which PGI doesn't have the best track record. So I am a bit skeptical, but let's wait until it's out and decide then if we like it or not.

[Sleepyboy14]

Ekdikesis, on 03 November 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

OMG a new map... what year is this?? ;-)

1987? Just kidding.

[Gasoline]

K D6 3 7, on 02 November 2017 - 06:24 PM, said:

I save all my votes for VBog (and occasionally Therma )

VBog in the rain is fantastic.

I think the reason VBog gets picked so rarely is not the general architecture or looks of the map, but the sheer amount of invisible walls and terrain one can get stuck on. Lasers and shells getting blocked by the carcasses even if you seem to have a clear line of fire, missiles exploding randomly in mid air is kinda frustrating sometimes.

Apollo777, on 03 November 2017 - 12:29 PM, said:

I miss the old Frozen City, it was a good browl map.

Of course i like this new map too.
And i hope we get more new maps soon.

I miss all the old maps. Frozen city had more options being smaller as it is now. Terra Therma and Forest Colony the same. I think making the maps larger made it harder to use that terrain, especially for slower mechs. By the time you're able to flank half your team is already dead. Or your team spreads all over the damn place and gets wiped by a murderball. Forest Colony is just frustratingly large only to fight in basically one place and taking forever to even get there. And it has the same problem of terrain you can get stuck on as VBog.

There is a reason smaller maps get picked so often (HPG, Mining Collective, Canyon Network).

I'm excited to try out the new map. Don't mind hot maps, just hope it has enough viable options. Sure looks promising tho.

[Grim 13]

Lookin' good bois! We'll see how it plays when you throw some objectives in there.
PROGRESS!

[D V Devnull]

Just saw the teaser... I think this will be a welcome addition, albeit with the mix of the following art sets...

• Tourmaline Desert (Most obvious, visually)
  
• HPG Manifold (Same as above)
  
• Terra Therma (I saw a certain unmistakable platforming)
  
• Vitric Forge (It's just too red to be Caustic Valley)

...that have apparently caused too many to question it. Frankly, I'm just glad to see a new map, and any serious criticism is going to wait until after I've had a chance to actually move around within there myself. I do think, however, that there is some impression of "Hawken" within the map... but then again, PGI loves a good parody, so I think we've got something fun going on here to enjoy.

~D. V. "I bet the Rubellite is the Red Stuff..." Devnull

[Krakka Dakka Kobold]

Awesome! Can't wait to brawl all day on this map! The fog is a PERFECT counter this "long range meta" that never seemed to die. If it's a hot map, all the better of a counter.

Side note, what's the music in the video? It's gorgeous and reminds me of many a planetarium and observatories I've visited.

[tokumboh]

For me this is a wait and see. I have not played for a few weeks now because it was getting boring the sort of rinse and repeat. Having looked at the reveal I have to say I am disappointed I wanted something different, something urban or rolling hills green or something that just changes the game play some. I am not sure that this map does, I have to say the last map that did make people think was Polar Highlands, all the other are pretty much have only one way to play and win

[C E Dwyer]

New map looks good.

How it plays though is far more important, new terra therma looks stunning plays badly, because there is only really two places you can fight, the rest is just one big kill box,

[Nicodemus Rosse]

I'd love to see some locations that just look like...places? Maybe a little less over-the-top? Cool locations are nice and all, but someplace that looks more low-key and real would help with the immersion a bit. None of the cities look like actual cities so far, they're more like outposts with clusters of buildings, and the landscapes tend toward the fantastical in scale, especially vertically.

A rolling desert with dunes a bit like Polar Highlands, more open almost-flat areas, and some small buttes and arroyos to break it up besides just having rolling dune hills. Hot during daytime, cold at night, so map temp is based on day/night cycle. Add sandstorms and a small number of wind-worn stone arches and columns. Think Twycross.

A ruined city that's mostly flat terrain with a few intact towers too tall to jump over, some craters and park areas, but it's flooded so there's water about 2-3 meters deep throughout, and most buildings are either shells you can walk through (maybe destructible?) and shoot through unimpeded, or solid but short enough to jump on top of or over. Add some tufts of moss and ferns to give the impression it's been empty for several years. If the topography is pretty simple and some of the buildings are made of repeated components, it could be pretty spacious without that much modeling work?

Rolling, hilly farmland with a real, big city visible in the far distance, and a few building complexes, roads, and elevated highways to add landmarks and hard cover.

Dry temperate land (so greenery on flats and hills, but nothing bigger than small trees, and desert mountains in the distance...like parts of California) with some open spaces and some really alien-looking rock formations that arch and swirl gracefully instead of looking like giant crystals erupting from the ground, so they look wind-worn and aged. Add some small buildings and divide it up with roadways and low walls, but give it really wide weather and visibility changes.

A couple of reskins, where map topography doesn't change but the bitmaps and temp settings do—that farmland map could easily have winter, spring/summer, and fall modes with just some color and temperature shifting. We should really also get a version of Polar Highlands where there's a blizzard that intermittently drops visibility and sensor acuity for 30 seconds to a minute at a time.

[NocturnalBeast]

Paradox42, on 04 November 2017 - 01:09 AM, said:

For a lot of people the key question is going to be how many fps they get on the map and if it is balanced. This are areas in which PGI doesn't have the best track record. So I am a bit skeptical, but let's wait until it's out and decide then if we like it or not.

I have done allot of experimenting in the FPS department and I have found that the biggest FPS sinks are Shadows, partiles and sun rays. Seriously, even after upgrading to my new, nearly-cutting edge PC, I still get a brief, but very noticeable FPS drop on maps when it transitions from night to day. Apparently, I have been told that the version of Cryengine that MWO uses does not use hardware acceleration (GPU) for sun rays (this has been fixed in newer versions of Cry Engine and Lumberyard). If it is the Cryengine version that causes the issue, then PGI will not be able to do anything about it except upgrade the engine (which is unlikely to happen).

[Akillius]

Cant' wait for the new map, it's about time.

However...
need more cows bell.
Um that came out wrong, I meant:
need more maps still.

[KHAN ATTAKHAN]

THIS IS SETI ALPHA 5.....................

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MarsThunder]

BTW, why *OASIS*? 8-( )

[D V Devnull]

KHAN ATTAKHAN, on 04 November 2017 - 09:55 PM, said:

THIS IS SETI ALPHA 5.....................

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm trying to figure this one out... is that a Star Trek reference?

~D. V. "I wish I had watched those movies better..." Devnull




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Edited by D V Devnull, 05 November 2017 - 01:29 AM.

[Yuvile]

While I could imagne that the map plays very well with the different hight levels it dosn't tell a story to me. It could work very well as an artificial arena that was created just for mech combat but I can't quite see any function to the objects as the other maps have it. Like the fight for a city, the HPG station.

To me it seemed all very random, very gamey compared to the other maps more "story" driven design.

Could be that as this is just a teaser the "story" of the map would reveal itself better when seening more of it but as the teaser is now its feels very artificial/designed.

Still I am very happy that we see a new map and I hope to see some more in the future.

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Yes the Ceti Alpha is a StarTrek reference. StarTrek II: Wrath of Khan.

Edited by Yuvile, 05 November 2017 - 03:25 AM.

[Arkhangel]

tokumboh, on 04 November 2017 - 09:07 AM, said:

For me this is a wait and see. I have not played for a few weeks now because it was getting boring the sort of rinse and repeat. Having looked at the reveal I have to say I am disappointed I wanted something different, something urban or rolling hills green or something that just changes the game play some. I am not sure that this map does, I have to say the last map that did make people think was Polar Highlands, all the other are pretty much have only one way to play and win

uh, you're kidding, right? Polar's the most played map, and short of playing skirmish, there literally is only one way to win the other game modes there, specially since everyone avoids Escort like the plague, despite the fact it actually makes the game more interesting being Assymmetric (War isn't meant to be far). Rubellite kicks Polar's *** on so many levels due to tons of cover terrain, height advantage places likely only some lighter mechs can get up to, and the fog screwing with LoS. I've had some great games on Frozen City where we managed to close on the enemy team due to being under visual cover of the blizzard. more maps with that effect are welcome. also, with your wish for an Urban map, that's the next one to come out. and I've heard it might be at least Tourmaline sized, which'll blow River City and Crimson Strait out of the water.