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[DANKnuggz]

This subject isn't a new one for sure but still remains a valid complaint.

With the IS gaining solid mediums like the BSW and Assassin why are clans still limited to 50 tons?

The IS now have solid options to combat our crows and tonnage needs to be evened up.

[Bombast]

I suppose this is going to be the issue of them month?

I wouldn't worry. Lots of people complaining, and with a new 55 ton Clan Medium mech pack just announced, well... I feel a powerful patch a'commen.

Edited by Bombast, 03 November 2017 - 02:07 PM.

[Shifty McSwift]

LB20X and SRM24 alpha combo back into scouting? I'm sure IS won't have anything to complain about then.

[Trenchbird]

I feel like using a Stormcrow is better than using a Phoenix Hawk. Should've taken them out today, instead of the overweight Pixie.

Seriously, just because you can't use your Stormcrow in Scouting doesn't mean you can't use it at all. Not sure why people think that.

EDIT; Oh, and also, I remember you. That was a funny match.

Edited by Catten Hart, 03 November 2017 - 02:26 PM.

[ESC 907]

Yeah. I feel as if the Black-Lanner sounds like it's built specifically FOR the scouting role! Kind of ridiculous that it's a tonnage that cannot even make it into Scout drops. I would only ever pre-order if they made it known that 55T mechs would be allowed into Clan scout-drops again. And typically, if I don't pre-order, I don't bother buying the mech at all!

[DANKnuggz]

Catten Hart, on 03 November 2017 - 02:24 PM, said:

Seriously, just because you can't use your Stormcrow in Scouting doesn't mean you can't use it at all. Not sure why people think that.

While this is true on paper when it comes to building a viable drop deck and I need to fill a slot with a medium I don't usually choose the heaviest medium option... for standard drop decks I use </= 50T to conserve tonnage for other mechs in the deck. losing 25T right out the gate means I need to spread tonnage more evenly through the deck or be grossly out tonned come wave 3-4

Stormcrows really only shine in Scout by comparison.

[panzer1b]

I think that regardless of whether its balanced or not, clan will get 55t mechs in scout since not doing so would mean very little sales of the black lanner which is pretty much exclusively a scouting mech (its got barely enuff tonnage to do anything outside of scout mode).

That said, i dont see why the crow would be an issue, its not OP or anything, and the streakboat is now better done with the huntsman if mobility isnt a super critical thing (crow can still do a fast streakboat but its nolonger the ONLY clan medium that can do more then 4 streak6 well).

[Angel of Annihilation]

panzer1b, on 03 November 2017 - 03:04 PM, said:

I think that regardless of whether its balanced or not, clan will get 55t mechs in scout since not doing so would mean very little sales of the black lanner which is pretty much exclusively a scouting mech (its got barely enuff tonnage to do anything outside of scout mode).

That said, i dont see why the crow would be an issue, its not OP or anything, and the streakboat is now better done with the huntsman if mobility isnt a super critical thing (crow can still do a fast streakboat but its nolonger the ONLY clan medium that can do more then 4 streak6 well).

Not to mention that the Stormcrow got its mobility nerfed quite substantially over the years and definitely lost quite a bit of its pep when PGI used the engine Desync to balance out various mechs. It isn't near the mech it used to be, not by a long shot. Its still good, don't get me wrong but its not an Apex predator any more.

[ESC 907]

Viktor Drake, on 03 November 2017 - 03:32 PM, said:

It isn't near the mech it used to be, not by a long shot. Its still good, don't get me wrong but its not an Apex predator any more.

As long as I am allowed to bring it in scouts, and can obliterate a light from ~200m, I'm happy. It's pretty much what we need nowadays to prevent smoke-divers!

[Stf Sgt Marblez]

Been using mine to great effect in qp, 3 atm6 and 4 er smalls, cap and ammo, good to go.

Now, on topic, with the release (announcement) of the Blacklanner it would make sense if they upped the clan scouting tonnage as it would def have a role. If they dont, well I can't see it having any functionality outside of a fast flanker/hit and repostion role. It still has the omnipods to make interesting builds (once all the omnipods come out for space bucks) that should prove fairly effective.

A man can dream can't he?

[BrunoSSace]

I hope it stays locked. Scouting fun atm with out clan 55 tonners.

[Lupis Volk]

BrunoSSace, on 03 November 2017 - 06:04 PM, said:

I hope it stays locked. Scouting fun atm with out clan 55 tonners.

Oh noes what ever will the Sphereoids do? I mean it's not like they have a thing for legs or something.

No punish one faction because of muh feefees.

[BrunoSSace]

Its even atm in Scouting. You need to let it go

[Lupis Volk]

BrunoSSace, on 03 November 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

Its even atm in Scouting. You need to let it go

I could say the same to all the tear soaked IS players. It's not even, no way at all. IS has the tonnage advantage even would be both sides having 55 tons. Black Lanner is designed for scouting so why should we not allow it to be in the scouting game mode?

WHY should I or anyone who decides to play the Clans be treated like a second class player and have less tonnage for a mech that's been superseded by newer ones and it's said build is again better used on newer mechs.

Edited by Lupis Volk, 03 November 2017 - 10:18 PM.

[BrunoSSace]

you need a hug

[Thaddeus Necromancer]

I would pre-order the Black Lanner immediately, IF the Clan Scouting tonnage was restored to 55 tons.

Otherwise, I don't need another fast 55 ton Mech that I would rarely play.

[Y E O N N E]

Bombast, on 03 November 2017 - 02:07 PM, said:

I suppose this is going to be the issue of them month?

I wouldn't worry. Lots of people complaining, and with a new 55 ton Clan Medium mech pack just announced, well... I feel a powerful patch a'commen.

Expecting Assassin and Bushy to get over-nerfed, Clan scouting tonnage back to 55.

Also expecting PGI to go ahead with those Small laser nerfs after erroneously deciding their Medium laser nerfs were successful. And they'll include the blue beams in on the fun. But the cMPL will remain Jesus-mode compared to the rest of the entire set of weapons in that range bracket.

[chucklesMuch]

My poor 90% unused mechs... coz not laser vom or gauss laser vom...

[Khobai]

assassin and bushwhacker will need to get nerfed if clanners start handicapping themselves with black lanners

[Y E O N N E]

Khobai, on 03 November 2017 - 11:01 PM, said:

assassin and bushwhacker will need to get nerfed if clanners start handicapping themselves with black lanners

That's not how any of this works.