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[clan hope]

is mechs have enough armor omg really !!!

[clan hope]

Todd Lightbringer, on 11 November 2017 - 07:44 AM, said:

These Thanatos quirks, and cockpit items are laughable. This thing needs armor, not structure, and more death themed items.

ITS CALLED THE LAUGHABLE SKILL TREE THEY GAVE US !!!!!!!!wow really laughable how much armor do u need??? i say u want enough armor so it takes 7 mech to drop it ? i think thats it

[Y E O N N E]

Navid A1, on 12 November 2017 - 06:18 AM, said:

SPL and SL are both in need of buffs.
PGI nerfed both IS-SPL and IS-SL for god knows what reason.

C-SPL case is more extreme, since there is no alternative laser that can replace it effectively. PGI heavily nerfed the C-ERSLs in september

I don't know that I'd agree with the implication that there was a laser to replace SPL and SL, especially since it seems like neither was ever much of a thing to begin with. And while I agree the change to cSPL was more extreme, the lack of performance on the SPL and SL is more extreme still.

I honestly find it hard to talk about the cSPL alone because it was the performance of the cSPL over those other two that got it over-nerfed in the first place, and it was the under-performance of the SL that got the SPL a nerf it didn't deserve even a little bit.

Edited by Yeonne Greene, 12 November 2017 - 11:38 AM.

[Gasoline]

clan hope, on 12 November 2017 - 10:20 AM, said:

is mechs have enough armor omg really !!!

IS mechs have the same base armor values as their clan counterparts... eg. both the Rifleman and Mad Dog have a max armor of 402.


And yes, IS mechs do indeed need armor quirks to survive. They have less range, heavier weapons and less alpha potential, heavier engines and bulkier heat sinks. Heck even their armor is heavier.

Edited by Gasoline, 12 November 2017 - 10:12 PM.

[Arkhangel]

Not sure why people are saying the Nightstar is underperforming. my 9J with two RAC/5s, a Snub and five Meds is a beast, and i've facetanked and sawed through pretty much anything i've ran into, even UAC/10 Kodiaks. the mech ain't the problem. it's the pilots.

[Defender Rococo Rockfowl]

Good patch. That's something I haven't said in a while. What a pleasant change

Maybe I'll buy a cosmetic item.

[Genesis23]

InnerSphereNews, on 10 November 2017 - 08:31 PM, said:

Inner Sphere Quirks (PDF)

Spider
• All Structure Quirks have been converted into Armor Quirks.
• Spider SDR-5D: Armor Bonus has been increased to match other variants.

Spider Design Notes: With some of the recent Light changes we feel the Spider has been sidelined a bit in favor of newer 'Mechs with more Hardpoints. We want to ensure that the Spider retains its own unique style compared to the other 'Mechs within its Weight Class, given its Hardpoint restrictions. A heavy focus on top-of-the-line Mobility, coupled with high durability, means that while the Spider doesn't carry the largest degree of firepower, it does boast unrivaled sustainability among the range of 'Mechs that can exceed 100 KPH.

nice to see the spider gets some love, but the problems are deeper than just a change from structure to armor quirks can fix.

first of, they need more armor to begin with. times have changed and the newer weapons just hit like a container of bricks.
5K needs the energy cooldown on a similar level than it had before the skill tree, because as it is now, its absolutely worse than its locust counterpart with similar hardpoints.
giving the 5D the same quirks as the other variants is nice, but makes it even more of an obvious choice, further reducing any reason to choose another variant and thus reducing even more of variety on the battlefield.

actually, you can scratch that last part with the battlefield variety, since there are no spiders on the battlefield to begin with.

Edited by Genesis23, 12 November 2017 - 11:41 PM.

[Trenchbird]

Gasoline, on 12 November 2017 - 10:12 PM, said:

Heck even their armor is heavier.

Minor correction; this only is true for Ferro Fibrous armor.

[Genesis23]

Catten Hart, on 13 November 2017 - 03:44 AM, said:

Minor correction; this only is true for Ferro Fibrous armor.

still uses double the slots IIRC

[John McHobo]

All these cockpit items will look nicely in my Roughneck, but in what relationship are they supposed to stand with Thanatos?

[W31rdWarrior]

Another patch is coming but Atlas still walk like it have a broken leg
How long we have to wait for that simple fix? Man.....

Edited by W31rdWarrior, 13 November 2017 - 10:03 AM.

[xVLFBERHxT]

Fix the Victors knees.

[FullAlchemy]

I agree. The night star needs some love, please.

[Stf Sgt Marblez]

Genesis23, on 12 November 2017 - 11:40 PM, said:

nice to see the spider gets some love, but the problems are deeper than just a change from structure to armor quirks can fix.

first of, they need more armor to begin with. times have changed and the newer weapons just hit like a container of bricks.
5K needs the energy cooldown on a similar level than it had before the skill tree, because as it is now, its absolutely worse than its locust counterpart with similar hardpoints.
giving the 5D the same quirks as the other variants is nice, but makes it even more of an obvious choice, further reducing any reason to choose another variant and thus reducing even more of variety on the battlefield.

actually, you can scratch that last part with the battlefield variety, since there are no spiders on the battlefield to begin with.

I've seen like three of them in the past two weeks, so yeah I'd say that statement is about correct as it can be.

[Genesis23]

Stf Sgt Marblez, on 13 November 2017 - 12:40 PM, said:

I've seen like three of them in the past two weeks, so yeah I'd say that statement is about correct as it can be.

not sure if that is sarcasm or not ^^'

the only people even considering to pilot spiders are either nostaliga fans looking for a challenge or maniacs like myself (which, if i think about it, is the same thing because i love the spider 5K and anansi, being my first played mech and first hero mech bought respectively)

[Stf Sgt Marblez]

Genesis23, on 13 November 2017 - 11:52 PM, said:

not sure if that is sarcasm or not ^^'

the only people even considering to pilot spiders are either nostaliga fans looking for a challenge or maniacs like myself (which, if i think about it, is the same thing because i love the spider 5K and anansi, being my first played mech and first hero mech bought respectively)

It wasn't sarcasm.

Tbh I love my 5k but there are just better mechs for earning cbills for my never ending mechlab hobby.

Edited by Stf Sgt Marblez, 13 November 2017 - 11:58 PM.

[Tank]

I'm here for Urbanmech and Cupcake - Thank You PGI.

[Luscious Dan]

xVLFBERHxT, on 13 November 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:

Fix the Victors knees.

Definitely needs kneecaps. 11 visible tubes on the LRM10, also.



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