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[Requiemking]

Well, I noticed the Pharaoh advert in the preview. Does this mean we might be able to get some Alacorns?(If you know what I'm referencing here, good for you, you know the lore about the vehicles)

[Glaive-]

I can understand all the neon, since it's apparently meant to be a Solaris arena, but tbh I was hoping for a much more gritty war-torn city. Still should be a pretty fun map, though. Just not what I was expecting.

I do hope that it's not night constantly though lol

[Kaeb Odellas]

Khalcruth, on 10 December 2017 - 09:18 AM, said:

Looks like it might be a bit hardware intensive, what with the videos on the buildings. And Tina is nice and all, and a pretty lady, but I don't know if that's really what I want on the buildings. It seems a bit crass and objectifying, for some reason. I think she deserves better treatment than that.

I believe the Tina billboard is a Blade Runner reference.

[MechaBattler]

Kaeb Odellas, on 10 December 2017 - 12:50 PM, said:

I believe the Tina billboard is a Blade Runner reference.

Very nice catch there. I wouldn't have even thought.

[Grimm Peaper]

Khalcruth, on 10 December 2017 - 09:18 AM, said:

And Tina is nice and all, and a pretty lady, but I don't know if that's really what I want on the buildings. It seems a bit crass and objectifying, for some reason. I think she deserves better treatment than that.

This is how I will be "objectifying Tina" on launch using stealth armor.

[Gristle Missile]

I like it. Very blade runner. I hope there is a daytime version with less crazy lighting

[Tincan Nightmare]

Requiemking, on 10 December 2017 - 12:22 PM, said:

Well, I noticed the Pharaoh advert in the preview. Does this mean we might be able to get some Alacorns?(If you know what I'm referencing here, good for you, you know the lore about the vehicles)

Adjusting those tracks with a bear huh?

[Tincan Nightmare]

Wolfways, on 10 December 2017 - 11:47 AM, said:

Is this really the new map? I mean, it can't be right?
I wouldn't put it past pgi but that is bad. It looks like a normal day in Vegas. Are the public still there?
It's not exactly a warzone.

Well as someone who lives in Vegas, I've yet to see a Phoenix Hawk go running across the lawn, but we would definitely be competing against Solaris.

[ocular tb]

Looks cool. I like that it has it's own theme/character and will be a lot different (visually, anyway) than any of the other maps we have.

Is it just me or does the visual quality seem a bit hit and miss? Some of the stuff on the buildings looks really good and vibrant (the Pharoh advertisement at :35 for instance) but I think a lot of the rest is kind of dull and flat. I don't usually complain much about the graphics in this game but I couldn't help but notice it. Still, I look forward to it.

Is that destructible object/terrain at :50 and :52?

[Davegt27]

I like this city

[CycKath]

Requiemking, on 10 December 2017 - 12:22 PM, said:

Well, I noticed the Pharaoh advert in the preview. Does this mean we might be able to get some Alacorns?(If you know what I'm referencing here, good for you, you know the lore about the vehicles)

This and all the Solaris sponsor names fill me with joy

[Lykaon]

Appogee, on 10 December 2017 - 11:44 AM, said:

I simply cannot be bothered arguing about this.

In retrospect, trying to make a a nuanced point about gender stereotyping in a Mechwarrior forum was doomed to failure from the outset.

As I said earlier, it's up to Tina how she chooses to be portrayed, and it's up to her employer whether they ask her to appear on billboards in Space Vegas, or hang medals around the necks of tournament winners, or whatever.

How we react to that portrayal is also up to each of us.

But I'll opt out of the personal insulting, thanks. Have a nice day, everyone.

I really have no idea how it's possible for people to find this of all things as offensive. It's like you have a list of items that you are told are "offensive" and be damned context.

It is literally a smiling person holding a can of what is probably a beverage. But, because it was a female,a woman, the triggers are pulled.

Now if the trigger was gender biased and the perception was negative based upon the gender of the person depicted,and since there are no indications of any sexual context (literally a face and a hand shown) isn't the assumption that the person is being depicted in a "crass or objectifying" manner in and of it's self sexist?

Would anyone be "triggered" if it was Paul's smiling face and hand holding a can? probably not and that is why the route of this argument is most likely some SJW bullcrap rather than any actual concern of morality.

The entire argument lacks any equality bias.

[Appogee]

MechaBattler, on 10 December 2017 - 12:51 PM, said:

Very nice catch there. I wouldn't have even thought.

The whole map references Bladerunner, right down to the flames coming out of chimneys at the beginning.

Incidentally, that Geisha reference is another reason the Tina image on the billboard triggered a certain disquiet.

[Wolfways]

Davegt27, on 10 December 2017 - 07:31 PM, said:

I like this city

I like this one

[50 50]

Bud Crue, on 10 December 2017 - 11:55 AM, said:

Map may be great, but weren't folks asking for, a dense urban environment...close confines, not a lot of verticality to allow the brawling and low hard point mechs to finally have a reason to exist (Cataphracts, et al), etc...this thing look at least as open as Rubelite if not more so. Beggars can't be choosers I guess. Still yay for a new map, and all.

Garran Tana, on 10 December 2017 - 12:03 PM, said:

I'm a bit worried that it will be not the city fight map that me, and a lot of other people are hoping for, but it's to early to say as this clip was too hectic and short.

Pretty hard to tell from the small section shown.
I would hope that there is a mix of areas.
Some major arterial roads that connect/divide more dense and cluttered areas.

Either way, there is a lot to like from that short snippet.

[Requiemking]

Tincan Nightmare, on 10 December 2017 - 03:19 PM, said:

Adjusting those tracks with a bear huh?

Testing track tension, actually. Alacorn crews in the lore were renowned for conducting frequent(and extremely thorough) track maintenance checks.

[Sjorpha]

Looks nice, i like the cyberpunk style.

[Exard3k]

If the city is hot, they will call it a "bad map"

[Brain Cancer]

Wolfways, on 10 December 2017 - 11:47 AM, said:

Is this really the new map? I mean, it can't be right?
I wouldn't put it past pgi but that is bad. It looks like a normal day in Vegas. Are the public still there?
It's not exactly a warzone.

In about a decade, it actually becomes one during the Jihad as the WoB come knocking.

[Prof RJ Gumby]

Appogee, on 10 December 2017 - 10:13 PM, said:

The whole map references Bladerunner, right down to the flames coming out of chimneys at the beginning.

Incidentally, that Geisha reference is another reason the Tina image on the billboard triggered a certain disquiet.

Social Justice comes to MWO. Oh my.

Just don't forget the part that these big stompy robots are a blatant realisation of the male power fantasy and should be banned for the good of all.