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[RelativeQuanta]

Has anyone else had the game become nearly unplayable since the meltdown cpu patch? Whenever I get into a brawl now my frame rate drops so much it's nigh unplayable. This is on my laptop with an i7 6700 cpu.

[l33tworks]

wtf us a meltdown cpu patch

[Seranov]

They warned that the Meltdown and Spectre patches might give up to a 30% performance hit. I'm honestly not surprised.

[RelativeQuanta]

l33tworks, on 06 January 2018 - 08:55 AM, said:

wtf us a meltdown cpu patch

A huge flaw in CPUs. Microsoft just recently patched it. See here: https://www.theregis...pu_design_flaw/

Edited by RelativeQuanta, 06 January 2018 - 09:02 AM.

[Radio Wolf]

RelativeQuanta, on 06 January 2018 - 09:01 AM, said:

A huge flaw in CPUs. Microsoft just recently patched it. See here: https://www.theregis...pu_design_flaw/

Gaddamn, that's a big screw-up on the part of Intel. I didn't even know about this.

[C E Dwyer]

Radio Wolf, on 06 January 2018 - 09:25 AM, said:

Gaddamn, that's a big screw-up on the part of Intel. I didn't even know about this.

It's not just Intel, it's AMD plus others as well, if it has a cpu it's likely to be vulnerable..

All those people that said I was paranoid about using cloud for personal details..

[Burke IV]

This is absolute bs tbh. 30% performance hit means they owe people replacement CPUs or refunds. When you buy a processor you look at things like speed vs price. I built myslef a gaming PC, its entirely possible that 30% reduction in CPU would make some of my games unplayable.

Edited by Burke IV, 06 January 2018 - 09:58 AM.

[Thorqemada]

Intel is vulnerable even if the System is powered down as long the PC is connected to Internet and it is connected to a power source even if the PC is not running bcs the Bug sits in a part of the PC that still can be accessed that way as it still has power.

AMD is not vulnerable to that sort of remote attack bcs the Bug only can happen if the Computer is up and running from inside the OS so an attacker would need direct access to it - that is why MS did not update AMD Computers so far.
CPUs up to Bulldozer are not affected at all!

That means no Performance Hit for AMD!

Edited by Thorqemada, 06 January 2018 - 10:08 AM.

[Radio Wolf]

Cathy, on 06 January 2018 - 09:50 AM, said:

It's not just Intel, it's AMD plus others as well, if it has a cpu it's likely to be vulnerable..

The article did quote AMD as bragging that they weren't affected though...makes me wish I had bought AMD instead of the i7.

Edited by Radio Wolf, 06 January 2018 - 10:08 AM.

[Thorqemada]

Vulnerabilities List:
https://www.planet3d...re-meltdown.png



Affected Intel CPUs:

• Intel® Core™ i3 processor (45nm and 32nm)
  
• Intel® Core™ i5 processor (45nm and 32nm)
  
• Intel® Core™ i7 processor (45nm and 32nm)
  
• Intel® Core™ M processor family (45nm and 32nm)
  
• 2nd generation Intel® Core™ processors
  
• 3rd generation Intel® Core™ processors
  
• 4th generation Intel® Core™ processors
  
• 5th generation Intel® Core™ processors
  
• 6th generation Intel® Core™ processors
  
• 7th generation Intel® Core™ processors
  
• 8th generation Intel® Core™ processors
  
• Intel® Core™ X-series Processor Family for Intel® X99 platforms
  
• Intel® Core™ X-series Processor Family for Intel® X299 platforms
  
• Intel® Xeon® processor 3400 series
  
• Intel® Xeon® processor 3600 series
  
• Intel® Xeon® processor 5500 series
  
• Intel® Xeon® processor 5600 series
  
• Intel® Xeon® processor 6500 series
  
• Intel® Xeon® processor 7500 series
  
• Intel® Xeon® Processor E3 Family
  
• Intel® Xeon® Processor E3 v2 Family
  
• Intel® Xeon® Processor E3 v3 Family
  
• Intel® Xeon® Processor E3 v4 Family
  
• Intel® Xeon® Processor E3 v5 Family
  
• Intel® Xeon® Processor E3 v6 Family
  
• Intel® Xeon® Processor E5 Family
  
• Intel® Xeon® Processor E5 v2 Family
  
• Intel® Xeon® Processor E5 v3 Family
  
• Intel® Xeon® Processor E5 v4 Family
  
• Intel® Xeon® Processor E7 Family
  
• Intel® Xeon® Processor E7 v2 Family
  
• Intel® Xeon® Processor E7 v3 Family
  
• Intel® Xeon® Processor E7 v4 Family
  
• Intel® Xeon® Processor Scalable Family
  
• Intel® Xeon Phi™ Processor 3200, 5200, 7200 Series
  
• Intel® Atom™ Processor C Series
  
• Intel® Atom™ Processor E Series
  
• Intel® Atom™ Processor A Series
  
• Intel® Atom™ Processor x3 Series
  
• Intel® Atom™ Processor Z Series
  
• Intel® Celeron® Processor J Series
  
• Intel® Celeron® Processor N Series
  
• Intel® Pentium® Processor J Series
  
• Intel® Pentium® Processor N Series

Edited by Thorqemada, 06 January 2018 - 10:50 AM.

[Thorqemada]

For german Readers - german Computerbase has an article up with 11 updates on it:
https://www.computer...herheitsluecke/

[Thorqemada]

And probably it is sort of business crime:
http://www.dailymail...lion-stock.html

Edited by Thorqemada, 06 January 2018 - 10:46 AM.

[RelativeQuanta]

I'm interested in know if anyone else has seen a similar performance hit on the i7 6700. If no one else has, then I really hope that the issue is something I can fix. I really REALLY don't want this game to be unplayable in an unfixable way.

I haven't noticed a performance in SWTOR Galactic Starfighter, my other online game. But from what I've read, MWO is particularly CPU intensive so this could be expected.
https://www.reddit.c...668&sh=05178cf6

[Appogee]

Oh crap.

RelativeQuanta, on 06 January 2018 - 10:45 AM, said:

I'm interested in know if anyone else has seen a similar performance hit on the i7 6700.

I have that processor. About to log in and have a few games. Will let you know.

[Sigmar Sich]

RelativeQuanta, on 06 January 2018 - 08:49 AM, said:

Has anyone else had the game become nearly unplayable since the meltdown cpu patch? Whenever I get into a brawl now my frame rate drops so much it's nigh unplayable. This is on my laptop with an i7 6700 cpu.

I updated my Windows yesterday (5th) and i did not noticed any performance issues aside my own imagination. But i read Haswell CPUs (22nm), which i have (a youngest i5, 4430), and all more modern cores, bear a technology which saves them from most of performance drops. I do not know if this is a placebo.
Since you name a 6***, you should not be affected too.
In any case, it is a software, they will fix it or lose an Atlas-ton of money, Endure.

P.S. I tested my performance on Attila Total War (same results), Rome Total War (same-ish results, i do not remember original FPS from benchmark, but it was close), Star Citizen (as crappy crap as it was after 3.0). I play MWO today to test, too. All seems to be as i remember. Clams are cheaty buggers though, but i doubt my CPU is in cahoots with them

Edited by Sigmar Sich, 06 January 2018 - 11:19 AM.

[Appogee]

Appogee, on 06 January 2018 - 10:49 AM, said:

I have that processor. About to log in and have a few games. Will let you know.

2 matches in, I have noticed no difference.

[VonBruinwald]

Seranov, on 06 January 2018 - 08:56 AM, said:

They warned that the Meltdown and Spectre patches might give up to a 30% performance hit. I'm honestly not surprised.

I'm curious if that 30% performance hit is for one or both patches. Intel rigs are going to need patching for both Spectre AND Meltdown which means their performance will likely be hit on two fronts.

[Cato Phoenix]

Uh, I installed a Windows update this morning and it in fact does seem slower in game.

[Tarl Cabot]

The flaw update is being done via their security software but if you are running a 3rd party antivirus software you will likely not see that particular patch yet. I just checked mine and nada new yet.

https://www.theverge...n-security-flaw

1. Laptop.. when was last time the vents/heatsinks were blown out of any dust buildup? Time of the year where it is cold outside and heat is on inside.
2. Check Windows update to see if windows updated recent GPU drivers (on by default and can foul things up).

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 06 January 2018 - 11:38 AM.

[Seranov]

VonBruinwald, on 06 January 2018 - 11:28 AM, said:

I'm curious if that 30% performance hit is for one or both patches. Intel rigs are going to need patching for both Spectre AND Meltdown which means their performance will likely be hit on two fronts.

Not sure. They also said 30% was an absolute worst-case scenario. It's likely to be less for most folks.