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[FireStoat]

James Argent, on 22 January 2018 - 05:30 AM, said:

Just like every good warhorn should be.

The warhorn is the best meme PGI's tossed into the game to date.
Normies just wouldn't understand.

[James Argent]

Here's your reminder to not be stupid by selling your non-(S) version before you finish the release event.

[Dee Eight]

Evil Bonsai, on 23 January 2018 - 01:57 PM, said:

Was just checking loadouts on the various versions, can anyone explain: on some says max 4 lasers w/o heat spike (pir-1). On others, it's 6 (pir-3). I just might end up stripping the versions with max 4. Use the parts for other mechs, if I can.

That's a mech lab issue where it has one warning message for any combination that includes heavy lasers. The actual limit is 4 heavy medium, 5 heavy small, 6 er/pulse small or medium, or 8 of either micro laser. However they're all linked to the same group, so the stock piranha 2 loadout...if you fired all the lasers with 0.5 seconds together, you're hit with the ghost heat penalty as if they were all the hottest laser in the group, which would be the heavy medium. Twelve heavy mediums is already 327 heat so fifthteen is probably in the realm of six or seven hundred.

[Tyrsen]

Dee Eight, on 23 January 2018 - 08:25 PM, said:

That's a mech lab issue where it has one warning message for any combination that includes heavy lasers. The actual limit is 4 heavy medium, 5 heavy small, 6 er/pulse small or medium, or 8 of either micro laser. However they're all linked to the same group, so the stock piranha 2 loadout...if you fired all the lasers with 0.5 seconds together, you're hit with the ghost heat penalty as if they were all the hottest laser in the group, which would be the heavy medium. Twelve heavy mediums is already 327 heat so fifthteen is probably in the realm of six or seven hundred.

Seconded. If you bring only micros, you can alpha 8 of them without hitting 'ghost cap'. Add even a single small or medium and your 'ghost cap' drops to 6. Tested and confirmed on PIR 1, 2, 3, and the 1S.

Edited by Tyrsen, 23 January 2018 - 10:05 PM.

[Jep Jorgensson]

Arkhangel, on 23 January 2018 - 06:11 AM, said:

if you're gonna point fingers at overused mechs per side, maybe you Trashborn could stop using Marauder IIcs and Hellbringers constantly. also, FYI, one of the main reasons the Pirate's Bane is so common is because it's incredibly CHEAP, and the ECM is just a bonus for a mech that is already incredibly fast.

fact remains however, that about 60% of any clan drop you ever see is ECM mechs. you wanna point fingers at the IS, you might wanna remove the hypocrisy on your own side.

plenty of viable non-ECM mechs on both sides. have the sense of the average surat, and try something else. ECM only gets used heavily to COUNTER ECM a lot of the time (since it really does SFA against a competent LRMer anyways)... so it's really just an escalation on both sides due to overuse of it.

Pirates Bane, cheap? In MC, perhaps. But that takes either time to collect enough MC from special events or real money to get. Speaking of other cheap mechs, the Commando hero among others also falls into that category. But yet it is the PB I keep seeing running around the battlefield. Quite the coincidence, quiaff?

Aside from that number being inflated and only one varient of the MAD IIC actually able to mount ECM, my point was never about pointing fingers nor that the IS were using too much ECM, I simply used the Locust to compare against the Piranha since they are the only two 20-ton mechs in the game and it uses its ECM to help it survive. Logical choice for a comparison, quiaff?

The vast majority of my mechs do not have ECM, FYI. Just making a comparison.

Lastly, please pay attention to your grammar. Poor grammar like yours is very irritating.

Edited by Jep Jorgensson, 24 January 2018 - 12:13 AM.

[James Argent]

Bah, nevermind...it's late and I'm loopy.

Edited by James Argent, 24 January 2018 - 12:27 AM.

[Evil Bonsai]

Thanks for the input re: laser ghost heat. I removed the oddballs and it showed the correct max number for type.

On a side note, more tests to come, but do not alpha a PIR-2. Self Insta-Gib.

Edited by Evil Bonsai, 24 January 2018 - 05:43 AM.

[Domoneky]

Another useless mech.......

[Dee Eight]

I emailed pgi about the narrow cockpit view, lord knows if they'd respond otherwise simply from patch forum feedback posts.

I posted a bunch of cockpit views into a piranha thread in the general forum, taken from the same spot on the frozen city testing grounds. I have a 24 inch wide Asus HD gaming monitor, in-game settings are full screen, 75 deg FOV, 1920x1080 resolution (which is good for a typical 80-90fps from my system on this poorly coded game).

https://mwomercs.com...ost__p__6009611

[James Argent]

FireStoat, on 23 January 2018 - 02:08 PM, said:

The warhorn is the best meme PGI's tossed into the game to date.
Normies just wouldn't understand.