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#1 KevinZhang

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 06:52 PM

With clan ton limit being increased back to 55 and the Storm Crow finally being able to be used in scouting again, will the Clans finally have a chance in scouting again? Are the crows comparable to the Bushwhackers or do they still fall short due to armor and the new IS tech?

Also what are you going to run on your crows?

#2 Bombast

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 06:55 PM

This changes one thing - IS players will now have more tonnage to shoot at, making matchscore events easier.

Works for me.

#3 Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 06:57 PM

Wait, where are you reading that 55 ton mechs are allowed back into scouting?

#4 storm0545

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM

View PostDakota1000, on 22 January 2018 - 06:57 PM, said:

Wait, where are you reading that 55 ton mechs are allowed back into scouting?

mechwarrior twitter post since they never post info here on the forums 1st.

#5 Bombast

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM

View PostDakota1000, on 22 January 2018 - 06:57 PM, said:

Wait, where are you reading that 55 ton mechs are allowed back into scouting?


https://twitter.com/...612111278764032

#6 Mystere

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM

View Poststorm0545, on 22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM, said:

mechwarrior twitter post since they never post info here on the forums 1st.


<smh>

#7 Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:02 PM

View PostBombast, on 22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM, said:



Neato, though honestly I'm doubting I'll even change my dropdeck at this point. Hunchback IIC and Huntsman just tend to be a bit better than the Stormcrow. All the builds for the thing got nerfed since it was last removed anyway, so the 12 CSPL build is pretty much trashed now.

#8 LT. HARDCASE

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:03 PM

You're still trying to brawl Bushwackers? Isn't 4x Ice Ferret with heavy lasers a hard counter?

#9 Bud Crue

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM

View PostBombast, on 22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM, said:



LOL!

I guess the folks complaining that their Black Lanners can't be used in scouting were heard. Well played, folks.

#10 The Lighthouse

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:14 PM

View PostLT. HARDCASE, on 22 January 2018 - 07:03 PM, said:

You're still trying to brawl Bushwackers? Isn't 4x Ice Ferret with heavy lasers a hard counter?


That Ice freezer meta is already expired and everyone is doing smoke diving...... again.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:15 PM

View PostLT. HARDCASE, on 22 January 2018 - 07:03 PM, said:

You're still trying to brawl Bushwackers? Isn't 4x Ice Ferret with heavy lasers a hard counter?


Not heavy lasers, but 6 ERML. Lighter, more damage, lower duration, same heat approximately, and only about 50m range difference. Though running them makes groups swap from Bushwackers to Assassins so you're screwed either way.

#12 K O Z A K

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 07:19 PM

change is already in the game (guess it's a server side update)

clan scouting EZ mode is back, have fun

#13 Dee Eight

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 08:17 PM

It just means i'll gather using a crow and keep defending in the huntsman. It still has slightly more tonnage for weapons and more agility. It also has far more hardpoints available.

#14 InvictusLee

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 09:29 PM

View PostLT. HARDCASE, on 22 January 2018 - 07:03 PM, said:

You're still trying to brawl Bushwackers? Isn't 4x Ice Ferret with heavy lasers a hard counter?
I use ECM, 1 HLL, and 4 ERML. Works great for scouting.

#15 Revenant Kitsune

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 10:48 PM

Thank god! Looking forward to my Lanner even more now!

#16 Black Ivan

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 11:27 PM

Seems sales of the Black Lanner were too low actually

#17 Khobai

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 11:54 PM

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Are the crows comparable to the Bushwhackers


no. bushwhacker has timberwolf level health

the stormcrow doesnt even come close.

they really need to force scout mode to be 2 mediums and 2 lights

no more of this 4 bushwhacker garbage

it would bring lights back to the gamemode as well

Edited by Khobai, 22 January 2018 - 11:58 PM.


#18 Tier5 Kerensky

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 12:14 AM

Okay that explains why I get scouting calls outside of any event. Huntsman still seems better with SRM, but then again, haven't tried Stormcrow yet there.

Edited by Teer Kerensky, 23 January 2018 - 12:15 AM.


#19 razenWing

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 04:11 AM

View PostDakota1000, on 22 January 2018 - 07:15 PM, said:


Not heavy lasers, but 6 ERML. Lighter, more damage, lower duration, same heat approximately, and only about 50m range difference. Though running them makes groups swap from Bushwackers to Assassins so you're screwed either way.


Um... Then clan will just swap to ssrm.mechs upon seeing 4 sins. That's why these circular discussions are pointless. There is no ultimate mech for every situation. Just like there is no ultimate rock, paper, or scissors.

Just run specialized and acknowledge that every once in a while, you will face hard counters.

Edited by razenWing, 23 January 2018 - 04:12 AM.


#20 Lily from animove

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 04:59 AM

View PostKhobai, on 22 January 2018 - 11:54 PM, said:


no. bushwhacker has timberwolf level health

the stormcrow doesnt even come close.

they really need to force scout mode to be 2 mediums and 2 lights

no more of this 4 bushwhacker garbage

it would bring lights back to the gamemode as well


but then will they force 2+2 or 4 man teams? or how woudl MM do that if no one wants to be the light?





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