123 replies to this topic

[Marius Evander]

Black lanner sales must be bad.

[Will9761]

Arkhangel, on 23 January 2018 - 07:46 PM, said:

Dude, fact is both sides whine equally when any major change hits.

You are right about that man. It doesn't matter whether you're IS, Clan, or Merc, Ron White said it best, "You can't fix stupid."

[Arkhangel]

Cadoazreal, on 23 January 2018 - 08:27 PM, said:

Black lanner sales must be bad.

or PGI just threw the clanners a bone, and noted that for the most part, IS pilots were actually OKAY with the tonnage being bumped back up.

plus stats for the two FW Capital invasion events don't lie. we beat the crap out of Clans in scouting both times. prob is it's invasion that actually moves the bar (currently anyways) and Clans still shine there, mostly because IS pugs have this obsession with being utterly complete @#$%ing morons and trying to out-trade Clans. You don't. Clan mechs for the most part do horribly in close (the few good LB20 mechs notwithstanding) which is where IS has the advantage with our better heat capacity. engaging at longer ranges where the Clan's superior cooling efficiency is allowed to occur is what gets the IS's asses kicked.

Edited by Arkhangel, 23 January 2018 - 08:51 PM.

[Vovochka404]

Arkhangel, on 23 January 2018 - 07:49 PM, said:

actually.... Annihilators are about as much of a "problem" as Marauder IICs with dual LB20s are. now you know how the IS felt when we ran into the Dire Wolf or the original quad UAC/10 Kodiak. with the Annihilator and Nightstar, we actually have a hard counter now (King Crab was okay too, but it's not as effective as those two.) also, honestly, if you wanna take an Anni down, just keep your distance. they're brawling mechs. outmaneuver and flank.

Distance? Most siege maps (except one) don't have distance. Yep, basicly clans have advantage on distance. That is balanced by more heat. And what do we have? We have mid-close range maps, we have ghost hits on every fart. The only advantage of clan technologies (distance) isn't usable in most cases

[Arkhangel]

Vovochka404, on 23 January 2018 - 08:56 PM, said:

Distance? Most siege maps (except one) don't have distance. Yep, basicly clans have advantage on distance. That is balanced by more heat. And what do we have? We have mid-close range maps, we have ghost hits on every fart. The only advantage of clan technologies (distance) isn't usable in most cases

Actually... I can think of several FW maps that do have a good range advantage. Boreal Vault, both approaches on Hellebore, open sightlines on Grim Portico once they're inside the gate (not everyone tries to skirt the outside), Beta and Gamma approaches on Sulfurous, Emerald Taiga in a lot of places, list goes on. key really is thinking outside the box here.

[-Spectre]

Well, it's about time...

Also, notice the polarization on this topic: Clanners love it and claim IS had the advantage, ISers hate it and blame it on things other than balance. Personally, I do better with my Mist Lynx than I ever did with my StreakCrow, but, through extensive experience in scouting, I definitely think that, currently, in a match of equally skilled pilots, IS will crush clans every time. With the change, IS retains that advantage for high-skilled vs high-skilled, but Clan gains the advantage in pug vs pug. I think that is about as good as we will get.

Spheroids...just learn to use your mechs, and learn what mechs to use.

[BEARDOOM]

I'm 50/50 Clan/IS. Pakhet is enough strong for scout, Buschwacker armoured. Stormcrow is broken with CT, 5 streaks or SRM6... I think that scouting is in BALANCE now.
Overall... I do more damage with IS then Clans. Only Pakhet give me games over 900dmg in scouting.
Great dinamic PGI.

[Lorginir]

sigh. And yet another ingenious decision. No reason to touch CW now.

[Sandiford]

Woohoo

Nothing but stormcrow expected for clans

Edited by Sandiford, 24 January 2018 - 03:06 AM.

[L1f3H4ck]

I like it, they have huge legs.

[0verClock]

am i hearing IS pilot crying?

[shopsmart]

With all the changes and balancing that has been happening. Got to wonder if they feel if everything is "balanced" now.

[TWIAFU]

D V Devnull, on 23 January 2018 - 12:51 PM, said:

Well, I find this a welcome change. My thanks to PGI for restoring missing Scouting Tonnage on the Clan side. Now I might get to know why people liked the StormCrow versus the Griffin and ShadowHawk... Possibly even see if they're effective versus BushWacker Mechs. Maybe I should go Patch my MWO Install and get back In-Game...

~D. V. "Now if only the Clan Invasion Tonnage didn't seem weak versus the Inner Sphere..." Devnull

Naw, no need.

Only temporary. Just like last time, the new players, casuals, and just here for fun types that you are all so damn worried about will start to cry again about streaks, just like last time, and will end up being changed.

So, sometime after the Lanner is out.

[Barkem Squirrel]

I still believe that some Pulse lasers and FLAMERS work better than Streak Crows in scouting.

Edited by Barkem Squirrel, 24 January 2018 - 08:06 AM.

[PanterPaul]

LOL just LOL

[a rabid chihuahua]

Seth Chaos, on 23 January 2018 - 11:36 AM, said:

Second Jade Falcon 4 Life Black Lanner will be fun

even as a bear I highly agree!

[a rabid chihuahua]

Cadoazreal, on 23 January 2018 - 08:27 PM, said:

Black lanner sales must be bad.

no idea, but I bought em.

[Lily from animove]

JuIius, on 23 January 2018 - 12:04 PM, said:

Hey Clanners.... we nerf you every Patch... so here is a lollipop for you!

Sorry, my Mom told me i should not accept anything from strangers

as a clanner you don't have a mom. Stupid merc!

[CKennedy79]

I'm glad they made this change. It's been long overdue with the IS having strong heavy mechs on the field like the bushwhacker. I feel the Pakhet makes a better streak boat anyway.

[PanterPaul]

Does someone remember why PGI did made the change to 50t!
Why change it back?

Scouting dead again.

Edited by PanterPaul, 24 January 2018 - 10:11 AM.