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#41 Greyboots

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 05:48 PM

View PostXavori, on 23 January 2018 - 02:37 PM, said:

Seriously.

How do you release a mech into this game when you know that 3/4th's of the mechs, including quite a few other lights, can one shot it? This is true even if you can only hold a laser on target half it's burn duration.

And heaven forbid one of your teammates accidently shoot you in the back. Unless they have superhuman reflexes, you die before they can get their guns twisted away.

And with no ECM and no jump jets, not really sneaking up on anyone either unless they are already engaged with another mech.

So basically, fish can steal kills and that's about it Posted Image


Translation:
Pirahna is well balanced instead of being OP at everything! Please Fix!!!

#42 Snowbluff

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 05:50 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 23 January 2018 - 05:14 PM, said:

A lot of people are not running 180 engines on theirs.

Oh yeah, you can save a whole... half ton if you drop below 175 :l

#43 Y E O N N E

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 05:54 PM

View PostSnowbluff, on 23 January 2018 - 05:50 PM, said:

Oh yeah, you can save a whole... half ton if you drop below 175 :l


Just sayin', even TheB33f is running a smaller engine, running at 137 kph.

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 05:56 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 23 January 2018 - 05:54 PM, said:


Just sayin', even TheB33f is running a smaller engine, running at 137 kph.

Call me a blasphemer, but I just dropped 2 MG to fit 3 HML. :P

#45 The Lighthouse

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 05:56 PM

I am also seriously thinking about lowering engine once I get all the speed tweaks. But then, it will be EVEN more paper with reduced speed...

#46 Xetelian

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 06:17 PM

They go down really fast.

#47 MischiefSC

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 06:19 PM

You're in a fast 20 tonner with 12 MGs and some lasers.

That thing is flat out ******* broken I can say from the perspective of someone who had 2 of them jump him and gut my Warhammer in a couple of seconds - front and back. It has more firepower than most IS mediums and some heavies.

So **** yes many of us are boating streaks. There's 4-6 of the little ******** every match. The mech was deisgned to be OPAF and it is OPAF and at 20 tons carries a truly stupid amount of firepower.

If you don't have a ton of streaks to one-shot the Piranha it's going to kill you in a couple of seconds most the time.

#48 Khobai

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 06:29 PM

piranha needs more leg structure

its legs go down way too easily

#49 JediPanther

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 06:32 PM

I'm betting all the lct pilots, myself included, are having some tasty tears, rear torso ribs, and going hmm not bad.

#50 Xetelian

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 06:33 PM

View PostMischiefSC, on 23 January 2018 - 06:19 PM, said:

You're in a fast 20 tonner with 12 MGs and some lasers.

That thing is flat out ******* broken I can say from the perspective of someone who had 2 of them jump him and gut my Warhammer in a couple of seconds - front and back. It has more firepower than most IS mediums and some heavies.

So **** yes many of us are boating streaks. There's 4-6 of the little ******** every match. The mech was deisgned to be OPAF and it is OPAF and at 20 tons carries a truly stupid amount of firepower.

If you don't have a ton of streaks to one-shot the Piranha it's going to kill you in a couple of seconds most the time.



I think you're exaggerating.


I'm only tier 2 so I don't know what other matches are like but I've seen dozens of PIR not make 90 damage.

#51 MischiefSC

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 06:42 PM

View PostXetelian, on 23 January 2018 - 06:33 PM, said:



I think you're exaggerating.


I'm only tier 2 so I don't know what other matches are like but I've seen dozens of PIR not make 90 damage.


That's because most players in this game are absolute **** as lights and many of us are taking 6xstreak6 boats.

When that isn't the case it turns into a slaughter.

The piranha literally does have better firepower than most mediums and some heavies.

#52 Khobai

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 06:45 PM

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The piranha literally does have better firepower than most mediums and some heavies.


as long as streaks exist you cant really complain about pirahnas lol

youve been given a weapon to hard counter them. if you choose not to use it, thats on you.

not that you really need streaks to kill them...


although I do think machine guns are gonna end up getting ghost heat. so they generate heat when you fire more than 6-8 of them. its kindve silly that the pirahna can sustain assault level dps indefinitely.


and the pirahna needs better leg quirks

Edited by Khobai, 23 January 2018 - 07:03 PM.


#53 Humpday

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 06:52 PM

It'll be a while before the final verdict is out. There are too many out, and whole lances are getting wiped out in seconds of the game starting due to being overly aggressive.

The mech also hasn't settle into its meta yet, everyone is still trying to figure that bit out.
I'll be nice when the streak boat thing dies out, a shot from those things are devastating.

I'll say this for sure, it is fragile AF. You gotta be really careful with it, its unforgiving.

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 07:04 PM

Oh, also, the cockpit is really bad, making your awareness of whats around you pretty bad. So its super easy get get blind sided

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 07:06 PM

170xl is enough, and that extra .5 tons goes a looong way on a 20 ton chassis.

#56 MischiefSC

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 07:29 PM

View PostKhobai, on 23 January 2018 - 06:45 PM, said:


as long as streaks exist you cant really complain about pirahnas lol

youve been given a weapon to hard counter them. if you choose not to use it, thats on you.

not that you really need streaks to kill them...


although I do think machine guns are gonna end up getting ghost heat. so they generate heat when you fire more than 6-8 of them. its kindve silly that the pirahna can sustain assault level dps indefinitely.


and the pirahna needs better leg quirks


So to counter a Piranha I have to literally build a 50+ ton mech to counter it, in a build that makes me **** against everything else.

That's not balanced.

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 07:36 PM

View PostMischiefSC, on 23 January 2018 - 07:29 PM, said:


So to counter a Piranha I have to literally build a 50+ ton mech to counter it, in a build that makes me **** against everything else.

That's not balanced.

Well, if you can 1v1 the piranha, then it's balanced. Mechs are 1:1 in terms of balance. They should be roughly equal in value otherwise people would just drop in the highest tonnage all the time.

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 07:42 PM

I've got about 12 or so matches under my belt in this so take this for what it is. When it's fun it's FUN but you play you pay in this mech big time. I like that. It's how it should be. In the right hands this little guy a killer. You take a wrong turn, run into a group solo and you're dead or at least lost half your weapons. Again, as it should be. While armor buffs tempting I think it would make this thing the love child of John Wayne and Rambo. That's not right I think for the tonnage and load out possibilities on this imo.

#59 FupDup

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 07:43 PM

View PostMischiefSC, on 23 January 2018 - 07:29 PM, said:

So to counter a Piranha I have to literally build a 50+ ton mech to counter it, in a build that makes me **** against everything else.

That's not balanced.

You don't "have to" build for Streaks, the point of building for Streaks is if you can't aim. If you have aim then the majority of the weapons in this game are universally effective against all targets.

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 07:45 PM

View PostXetelian, on 23 January 2018 - 06:17 PM, said:

They go down really fast.

View PostKhobai, on 23 January 2018 - 06:29 PM, said:

its legs go down way too easily


Yep. Once I get one legged by my Streakcrow, I let my other team mates finish it off while I hunt for the next one.

Edited by Mystere, 23 January 2018 - 07:45 PM.






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